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Top 6 looking pretty much as expected but us and West Ham near the bottom won't last. Cream rises.
 
Sunderland fans leaving in droves again.
3-0 down to his old team -Moyes could be getting his P45 soon.

Sunderland fans always have pressing business to attend on the 60 minute mark until February.
 
just watched last night's game.

Chelsea proved that they are just average and their position is due to playing weak teams. Liverpool played a great 30 minutes and then played average football too. It was a just result.

Liverpool will be challenging at the end of the year. Chelsea will be below us.
 
looking at the table now, I don't see anyone below us who should finish above us and feel that we'll finish well above WBA.

8th is the lowest I expect us to finish (at the moment).

From the games I've watched I see no reason why we can't finish above Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton, Manure, Spurs. So I'm open to the idea of getting CL next season too.
 
Man City are looking good though, even Stirling looks a different player.
And West Brom could get some more wins than before if Chandli and Rondon keep hitting it off. Everton look much better under Koeman, certainly in defence and midfield.
 
Man Utd look like England under Hodgson, to me. Too many players being played out of position, so their shape looks poor.
 
Watford are looking good, but agree about Man U, too many players trying to do the same job and getting in each others way rather than creating options. Rooney in particular is too busy trying to do other peoples jobs and neglecting his own.
 
Firstly - I'm a Rooney fan. I think he's a quality player, who often gets the brunt of the blame, because of his name.

However, he is hampering Man Utd and England, in this current role. He isn't a midfielder and is harming the shape of each team, by being played there. He's getting in the way of the actual midfielders and not helping the forwards. This lack of shape then hampers the wide men. He either needs to be up front, alongside/behind a striker, or not in the team.
 
As I said Manure aren't all that and we can finish above them.
 
Manure got what their big heads deserve.
 
Firstly - I'm a Rooney fan. I think he's a quality player, who often gets the brunt of the blame, because of his name.

However, he is hampering Man Utd and England, in this current role. He isn't a midfielder and is harming the shape of each team, by being played there. He's getting in the way of the actual midfielders and not helping the forwards. This lack of shape then hampers the wide men. He either needs to be up front, alongside/behind a striker, or not in the team.

Man U will be twice the team as soon as Mourinho realises that he gets in the way rather than helps the side.

When he was younger and aspired to be nothing more than a striker, he was excellent for both Man U and England. However, at some point he got an ego the size of Jupiter and decided he could play anywhere and do everything.

Since that time, he's been total dogshite for both. The fact that 'strong' managers like Mourinho and Allardyce are the latest to be suckered into believing the hype is baffling.
 
Could be a tough one next week. They will be hurt and out to prove something.

Or they play like a bag of shite again and we walk away with the points.
 
Man U will be twice the team as soon as Mourinho realises that he gets in the way rather than helps the side.

When he was younger and aspired to be nothing more than a striker, he was excellent for both Man U and England. However, at some point he got an ego the size of Jupiter and decided he could play anywhere and do everything.

Since that time, he's been total dogshite for both. The fact that 'strong' managers like Mourinho and Allardyce are the latest to be suckered into believing the hype is baffling.
Yep. Having spent all that money on Pogba, they aren't letting him do his thing, by having Rooney in there. He needs another midfielder in with him, as he's wasted at the moment. This is on top of what Rooney is doing to their wide men and therefore, by default, the service that Ibrahimovic is getting.

From a City perspective, long may in continue, though.
 
Could be a tough one next week. They will be hurt and out to prove something.

Or they play like a bag of shite again and we walk away with the points.

Let's hope we get 5 quick goals and kick on from there.
 
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P Pld Pts
1Leeds Utd3882
2Leicester3782
3Ipswich3881
4Southampton3673
5West Brom3866
6Norwich City3861
7Hull City3758
8Coventry City3757
9Preston 3756
10Middlesbro3854
11Cardiff City3853
12Sunderland3848
13Watford3848
14Bristol City3847
15Swansea City3846
16Millwall3843
17Blackburn 3842
18Plymouth 3841
19Stoke City3841
20QPR3840
21Birmingham3839
22Huddersfield3839
23Sheffield W3838
24Rotherham Utd3820

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