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alex said:
Mr Rudkin, could I see you please?

Outside of whether or not we feel Mr Shakey should have been sacked, I do hope Mr Rudkin is also hauled over many coals.
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Agreed. Been saying it for a while but the sooner Rudkin is relieved from his position the better
 
Red Leicester said:
Well I never like to see people sacked, but CS should never really have been appointed.
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Indeed not. Although it might have seemed a uniting, soothing appointment from some perspectives at the time, it was always a risk given CS's managerial inexperience. It was a roll of the dice that didn't pay off and perhaps should been called time on much sooner.

Whilst I was prepared to give him the chance to learn, we really didn't see too much evidence of him doing that. There seemed no continued identifiable progression week to week. We'd go from bereft to showing signs back to bereft again.

I'll take on board what others here have been saying; I think CS was tactically wanting. I think he was out of his depth and drowning. As a club, that couldn't be allowed to continue.
 
Leicester had become known as a yo yo club too good for the second tier and not good enough for the first. Then under Milan Mandaric there was a danger of it becoming a yo yo club between second and third. The Thais have been very successful.

We got promotion to the Premier League in 2014, stayed their in 2015, had the club's greatest season in 2016 and stayed in the Premier League in 2017. Far from lacking ambition the Thais have spent a great deal of money and have been ruthless in sacking Sven, Ranieri and Shakespeare in order to get success. They have also been willing to sack Pearson to protect the good name of the club.

The Thais appointment of Shakespeare after Ranieri was justified as he kept us in the Premier League. The Thais dismissal of Shakespeare is also justified as he seemed to be leading us into relegation.

As for the club being badly run I remember when the Chairman and the Manager were banned from writing in the club programme. That was being badly run.

I cannot see that Vichai, Top or Susan Whelan are to blame. It does seem to me that huge amounts of money have been wasted on players who have not been very good. The responsibility for that surely lies with Jon Rudkin. Iheanacho may become a very good player but he is young and too frail. Iborra looked elegant; but elegance does not work against a Tony Pulis team. What Mr Rudkin needed was to bring in battle hardened street fighters.

The real truth lies in a Brian Clough quote: "Three points. That what shuts them up."
 
Miles Away said:
Shakespeare should never have been appointed. It was at best an oversight and at worst negligent.
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I think the appointment was a ‘he could do a job’ on the basis of a few good results and knowing the club and players in the absence of any proper manager wanting to come near us after the manner in which Claudio was dismissed.
 
Miles Away said:
Shakespeare should never have been appointed. It was at best an oversight and at worst negligent.
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I agree it was a punt but certainly not negligent at all. He was given a very specific job to do when he took over and we were 4th from bottom; to keep us up. He did that and we finished 12th, 10 points from relegation. To all intents and purposes he did exactly what was asked of him and finished the season with a record that, statistically, wasn't bad. There seems to be this understanding that there would have been a queue of managers forming to take control had Shakespeare not been given the job. The truth of the matter is that there more than likely wouldn't have been on the back of Ranieri's dismissal. I wanted us to take on Silva but that too would have been a punt and many posters on here were not in any way keen on him so I certainly understand why they went with CS.
 
The owners have acted decisively.

We have played 8 games and have a few more left to play.

Serious question, would anyone swap our squad (Silva included) with any team below Liverpool?

I wouldn't.

We will piss mid-table or above.
 
I firmly believe that the nature of Ranieri's dismissal poisoned any chance of us attracting a top notch manager.

What is any manager to think about the relationship they would have with the club if they see a good man, who has achieved what very few could dream of, being treated so badly.
It was quite clear he had to go but there are good ways of doing it and some very bad ones. This has to have counted as probably the worst, next to just sending him a text!
 
Mike - True Blue Tinter said:
I firmly believe that the nature of Ranieri's dismissal poisoned any chance of us attracting a top notch manager.

What is any manager to think about the relationship they would have with the club if they see a good man, who has achieved what very few could dream of, being treated so badly.
It was quite clear he had to go but there are good ways of doing it and some very bad ones. This has to have counted as probably the worst, next to just sending him a text!
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Exactly, the way it was handled has had a negative effect which is the sole responsibility of those who made the decision.

Who can blame any decent manager for wanting to steer clear.
 
Mike - True Blue Tinter said:
I firmly believe that the nature of Ranieri's dismissal poisoned any chance of us attracting a top notch manager.

What is any manager to think about the relationship they would have with the club if they see a good man, who has achieved what very few could dream of, being treated so badly.
It was quite clear he had to go but there are good ways of doing it and some very bad ones. This has to have counted as probably the worst, next to just sending him a text!
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Agreed, except in my opinion he had earned the right to be relegated with us. Financially disasterous, yes in the short term - but his dismissal may in the long term eb more harmful than we imagined at the time.
 
camberwell fox said:
Agreed, except in my opinion he had earned the right to be relegated with us. Financially disasterous, yes in the short term - but his dismissal may in the long term eb more harmful than we imagined at the time.
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Spot on

But the players (and many ignorant and/or plastic fans) wanted him out and their mate installed instead, so it was all good.

And the whole chicken nuggets debacle, obviously
 
My problem with his sacking, is i'm not 100% convinced any replacement can turn anything around. We don't look like a squad who have the faintest idea on how to play football. I don't think we have depth or ability to change tactics unless we completely overhaul the first team.
 
camberwell fox said:
Agreed, except in my opinion he had earned the right to be relegated with us. Financially disasterous, yes in the short term - but his dismissal may in the long term eb more harmful than we imagined at the time.
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If it is of the order of £200million down to £40million, that is a complete financial meltdown, if you cannot offload all your players who are on £1million+, which is probably most of our squad.
 
camberwell fox said:
Serious question, would anyone swap our squad (Silva included) with any team below Liverpool?

I wouldn't.

We will piss mid-table or above.
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I think we have 8th best squad in the league and our wage bill probably equates to this too. That's the level our budget and ambition has set and fans should judge our players and management on these terms. Anything below this level isn't good enough for me until such time as our circumstances change.

I don't share your confidence though in our ability to shoot up the table. I think our great escape and last season's run of consecutive wins has lulled players and fans into a false sense of security. Bigger and better teams than us have gone down.

If we make the right selection to replace Shakespeare, we will probably be fine. If we don't, or even if the players get all rebellious, anything could happen.
 
homer said:
Spot on

But the players (and many ignorant and/or plastic fans) wanted him out and their mate installed instead, so it was all good.

And the whole chicken nuggets debacle, obviously
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So only 'plastic fans' wanted Ranieri removed? What kind of wibbling nonsense are you on about now? I get the loyalty to Ranieri but I also fully understand the decision taken on many levels.

Nobody 'earns the right' to lose a business circa £150m plus (minimum) or let down tens of thousands of fans who have spent vast sums of their salaries in wanting to watch the highest level of football. He made too many errors and that's what cost him.
 
Mike - True Blue Tinter said:
It was quite clear he [Ranieri] had to go
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I'm not at all sure that it is or was clear that he had to go. What is very clear is that the same cancer that was preventing him progressing the club is still present now. Perhaps what he needed was support to get rid of it at the earliest opportunity.
 
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