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I was discussing this with my mate the other day and it's really wild and stupid but just a thought.

Has there been a discussion on if the managers actually have much of a say in who plays for Leicester ?

When Ranieri came in he played the same style - which worked and I believe he didn't actually have to do much 'management'

However look at the season after when he continued to play 4-4-2 and switch up after half time with different styles of play - That didn't work....yet he continued to play the same formation. He repeatedly said 'i'm not afraid to bench big names' yet it never happened. There was also talk to a rift between him and the players

Shakey comes in - Plays the same formation, which works for a while, but when it doesn't work, he seems to only switch at half time...Also says 'i'm not afraid to bench some big names' yet it never really happened.

We are sitting on a massively expensive bench and either those players are not up to scratch - which begs the question why did we buy them or maybe the players who won the league are having more of an influence on the owners or the manager about they first team action ?

or maybe i'm just over thinking it ?
 
On a serious note. You could be on to something. Although it could just be crappy recruitment. Though i look at Slimani and wonder how he's so lethal elsewhere. Musa also. Same could be said of Tom Lawrence when he was here, Kramarić too who scored 15/34 last season at Hoffenheim.

These players need to be given a chance but rarely do they get a run in the team because we don't have a strong enough manager to tell those in the team who's boss.
 
ThaiSweetChilli said:
On a serious note. You could be on to something. Although it could just be crappy recruitment. Though i look at Slimani and wonder how he's so lethal elsewhere. Musa also. Same could be said of Tom Lawrence when he was here, Kramarić too who scored 15/34 last season at Hoffenheim.

These players need to be given a chance but rarely do they get a run in the team because we don't have a strong enough manager to tell those in the team who's boss.
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Very likely to be part of the problem but other issues to which have already been well rehearsed on the forum. One of those work situations where every time one of the problem people goes things should get better. All comes down to having the strong leader(s) who are prepared to sort out those who are part of the problem - amongst players, football management and amongst the hierarchy.
 
Redditch Fox said:
Very likely to be part of the problem but other issues to which have already been well rehearsed on the forum. One of those work situations where every time one of the problem people goes things should get better. All comes down to having the strong leader(s) who are prepared to sort out those who are part of the problem - amongst players, football management and amongst the hierarchy.
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Yep and I don't think Claudio was the man to do that and Shakey didn't have the full backing of the owners to do that as well. Especially if he failed
 
Mike - True Blue Tinter said:
Sean Dyche's version of 4-4-2?
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Do you think that the formation is the key issue? My take is the lack of PL standard midfielders post Kante and the general lack of enthusiasm after the initial burst when they had got rid of Claudio. In any case sometimes we play 4-4-1-1 but it doesn't seem to make much difference. The problems are self-inflicted but so far only the fall guy has carried the can.
 
Redditch Fox said:
Do you think that the formation is the key issue? My take is the lack of PL standard midfielders post Kante and the general lack of enthusiasm after the initial burst when they had got rid of Claudio. In any case sometimes we play 4-4-1-1 but it doesn't seem to make much difference. The problems are self-inflicted but so far only the fall guy has carried the can.
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We have no combination of midfielders that can play effectively in a 442, so yes the formation has been a key issue.
 
We weren’t playing 442 before Ranieri arrived so that’s one change straight away. Throughout that season we kept 442 but evolved in style from gung ho counter attacking to being a rock solid defensive side using counter attacks more sparingly, so there’s another change. No surprise that having won the league we stuck with the same formation. You can’t teally get much more tried and tested than that. Also we’ve struggled for fit, decent central midfielders. If you’ve only got 2 CM’s available, you can’t play many formations, maybe 541 but that’s very defensive.

So all in all no, I don’t think there is some conspiracy to play a certain formation or certain players or whatever.
 
Lako42 said:
We have no combination of midfielders that can play effectively in a 442, so yes the formation has been a key issue.
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So do we play 4-4-2 as the only way to ensure a place at RB for Simpson and a platform for Vardy as the sole striker in what is really more of a 4-4-1-1 even though the key midfielder (for a 4-4-2) left before last season started and. Vardy's supply routes have been more or less cut off. Sounds crazy.
 
People completely underestimate how much ranieri changed the approach.

Changed to a back four, Drinkwater playing consistently, Vardy down the middle, Simpson and Fuchs being introduced.
 
Miles Away said:
People completely underestimate how much ranieri changed the approach.

Changed to a back four, Drinkwater playing consistently, Vardy down the middle, Simpson and Fuchs being introduced.
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Plus Okazaki
Plus Kante
Plus Albrighton played regularly
 
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