Premier League 2017/18
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give_us_a_wave
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Precisely why I've no time for the Guardiola mythos.
Just another Mourinho. Pisses money up the wall on superstars while developing **** all. Wins & moves on.
He basically inherited a Barca side that was already brilliant, did precisely **** all at Bayern in terms of progression in a league where Jimmy ****ing Kranky could get the job & win it by 5 points.
Same again at Man City. Spend a fortune & win a mediocre league. Woop-de-do.
Despite the fact that their teams play in contrasting ways he & Jose are peas in a pod in terms of method.
Mourinho at least proved at the beginning with Porto that he could do it the other way. Pep doesn't even have that.
Probably just me being old fashioned though. I belong to an era where great & good managers built an identity at clubs over a period of years with a philosophy, a plan, some shrewd transfer dealings & a dose of style. I couldn't really give 2 shits if Man City go on to dominate Europe for a ****ing decade. It'll just be a case of getting what they ordered.
Blue Maniac
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Managers don’t get years now. They usually get months, and even at a club like Manchester City where a manager’s shortcomings can be masked for a while by the fact you’re rolling over far inferior opposition they only tend to last a couple of years before they hit a sticky patch of fixtures. Managers and coaches don’t develop long term strategies because why would they?
give_us_a_wave
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I agree with all of that. I just don't like it. & I'm not going to accept that winning trophies because you spent half a billion quid on every good player in the world makes you some sort of managerial genius. Which more or less every cock sucking pundit wants me to believe about Guardiola.
fitz
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At least Mourinho did something before going to a club Pep would manage, can't believe I'm defending that odious little ****...
I'm sick of the Pep rimming though. Even through the Mahrez shit it was grim. Media saying he just wants to play for Pep and such shit. Say he wants shitloads of sponds and trophies.....pep has become an abbreviation for that.
I can see football being dead on its arse in the near future. One team pissing away millions to win the league by November while teams like us even in the top half are happy to play out draws just to finish above the 3 duffers who have **** all going for them.
pork pie fox
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Serious question, though - Where do you go from here?
The reality is that our view is a bit warped by what happened the season before last.
Having said that, in reality there doesn’t look like there will be too much change for the current “big 6”, other than a bit of movement amongst themselves.
Outside of those 6, there will be teams fighting relegation and teams sitting in relative security, such as ourselves, currently.
What is a realistic expectation of us? Are we not at the exact level? I’m not saying I like it, or that we should be happy where we are, I’m just asking the question.
The reality is that our view is a bit warped by what happened the season before last.
Having said that, in reality there doesn’t look like there will be too much change for the current “big 6”, other than a bit of movement amongst themselves.
Outside of those 6, there will be teams fighting relegation and teams sitting in relative security, such as ourselves, currently.
What is a realistic expectation of us? Are we not at the exact level? I’m not saying I like it, or that we should be happy where we are, I’m just asking the question.
H T B
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For a fair few years, you'd say WBA, Southampton and Stoke, were all in that comfort zone.
We can't afford to be complacent, and Have to be very careful what we wish for..
Ike O'Noclassed
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Hard not to be gloomy. Quick calculation is that in 2016-17, the "League of 14" played out 28 drawn games last season (games between each other, not the top 6). Already this season that figure stands at 42, and I'd hazard a guess that we could be participants in another seven before the end of the season judging by our most recent home games.
give_us_a_wave
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A global economic meltdown of epic proportions is the only thing I can see saving it. I can certainly see one coming just hard to say when really. 2008 was in all likelihood a pre-season warm up.
With nobody able to afford ticket prices or cable & satellite subscriptions plus big sponsors hitting the skids the game could implode back to it's natural state. Like Mr Hyde reverting to Dr Jekyll.
Unfortunately if that were to happen I guess we'd all be too busy trying to get hold of some food & a place to live to be too fussed about football. Plus I'd personally be both pushing into old age AND unwell, so among the most vulnerable.
It's all ****ed basically.
Buy some gold.
With nobody able to afford ticket prices or cable & satellite subscriptions plus big sponsors hitting the skids the game could implode back to it's natural state. Like Mr Hyde reverting to Dr Jekyll.
Unfortunately if that were to happen I guess we'd all be too busy trying to get hold of some food & a place to live to be too fussed about football. Plus I'd personally be both pushing into old age AND unwell, so among the most vulnerable.
It's all ****ed basically.
Buy some gold.
glyn
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If only we could capitalise, 7th might still be on
When we were doing well in January I did joke that we could catch Arsenal and get 6th. Annoyingly that could well have been the case if we’d turned up in the last four matches.
Hector
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Although I would of course like us to overtake Burnley for 7th, there is a bit of me that thinks wouldn't it be great if they did what we should have done, and caught Arsenal.
Blue Maniac
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Not watching but Zinchenko was carded on 24 minutes.
Robin127
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As far as I'm concerned it should have been a red. Guardiola complaining about his players being not protedted enough is a joke when his full back gets away with a raised foot studs showing challenge like that. If he hadn't gone between Moses' legs it would have been really nasty.
Brown Nose
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Right that's it. I can't accept that this is possible any longer.
The Premier League has to be crooked. There is no way that Chelsea went there to do anything but lose. They strolled about hoping to keep the score down. It was appalling.
Man City have bought the league in terms of their spending but they've bought the intent of their opponents somehow too.
Opposing managers, including our own, have been an embarrassment this season.
The Premier League has to be crooked. There is no way that Chelsea went there to do anything but lose. They strolled about hoping to keep the score down. It was appalling.
Man City have bought the league in terms of their spending but they've bought the intent of their opponents somehow too.
Opposing managers, including our own, have been an embarrassment this season.
give_us_a_wave
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Must be time to retire this "Big 6" bullshit by now surely?
What ****ing 6?
It's Citeh, Manure & Chelski for the forseeable surely? & since, if the form holds true, Mourinho will be on his way in 12 months or less after pissing off everyone at the club from the board to the bloke who sells the pies, we can rule Utd out of the picture too. Especially as they can't possibly compete financially with the other two.
The only place Liverpool are winning the league is in their deluded fans fevered dreams (or ****ing Narnia)
Tottenham are a bunch of tried, tested & proven shitarsed bottlers & losing cup semi-finalists. Plus Harry Horseface will be on his way in the Summer. Unless he's as thick as he looks & sounds (Which surely nobody could be. He'd never find his way to the ground)
Arsenal...well they're Arsenal aren't they? A ****ing joke.
Man City could well end up winning 5 in a row. Until Pep gets bored & ****s off to a) Real (for a laugh) or b) China
Looks like we may have been responsible for the last interesting PL season in history.
Oh well.
(Manure 2-1 down at Palace as I type. Man City are going to win it by 25 pts aren't they?)
What ****ing 6?
It's Citeh, Manure & Chelski for the forseeable surely? & since, if the form holds true, Mourinho will be on his way in 12 months or less after pissing off everyone at the club from the board to the bloke who sells the pies, we can rule Utd out of the picture too. Especially as they can't possibly compete financially with the other two.
The only place Liverpool are winning the league is in their deluded fans fevered dreams (or ****ing Narnia)
Tottenham are a bunch of tried, tested & proven shitarsed bottlers & losing cup semi-finalists. Plus Harry Horseface will be on his way in the Summer. Unless he's as thick as he looks & sounds (Which surely nobody could be. He'd never find his way to the ground)
Arsenal...well they're Arsenal aren't they? A ****ing joke.
Man City could well end up winning 5 in a row. Until Pep gets bored & ****s off to a) Real (for a laugh) or b) China
Looks like we may have been responsible for the last interesting PL season in history.
Oh well.
(Manure 2-1 down at Palace as I type. Man City are going to win it by 25 pts aren't they?)
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Motown Fox
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Man U won 3-2
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Championship
| P | Pld | Pts | |
| 1 | Ipswich | 43 | 89 |
| 2 | Leicester | 42 | 88 |
| 3 | Leeds Utd | 43 | 87 |
| 4 | Southampton | 42 | 84 |
| 5 | West Brom | 43 | 72 |
| 6 | Norwich City | 43 | 71 |
| 7 | Hull City | 42 | 65 |
| 8 | Coventry City | 42 | 63 |
| 9 | Middlesbro | 43 | 63 |
| 10 | Preston | 43 | 63 |
| 11 | Cardiff City | 43 | 59 |
| 12 | Bristol City | 43 | 58 |
| 13 | Sunderland | 43 | 56 |
| 14 | Swansea City | 43 | 53 |
| 15 | Watford | 43 | 52 |
| 16 | Millwall | 43 | 50 |
| 17 | Blackburn | 43 | 49 |
| 18 | Plymouth | 43 | 48 |
| 19 | QPR | 43 | 47 |
| 20 | Stoke City | 43 | 47 |
| 21 | Birmingham | 43 | 45 |
| 22 | Huddersfield | 43 | 44 |
| 23 | Sheffield W | 43 | 44 |
| 24 | Rotherham Utd | 43 | 23 |
