fitz
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Haha, I assumed he meant the second point about people seeing positives....stupid me.
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Haha, I assumed he meant the second point about people seeing positives....stupid me.
popillius
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Then you need to read the thread again.
Predictable. I mean, pathetic as ever but predictable nonetheless. If you can't understamd the simplest of premises perhaps you shouldn't respond to them.
Are you both reading from the same script? I didn't say or even intimate that most posts were predicting a terribly unsuccessful season next year, only that some were. It was a point in response to a ridiculously ironic comment about people using predictions to explain why they wanted the manager to stay. Many are doing exactly the same to explain why he should leave. Some are more reasoned than others.
Would you like me to try and draw a picture for you both or do you want to get back to your colouring books?
For the record, I don't disagree at all about the state of the football we are playing- it's horse shit. I couldn't care less if he is sacked but I can also see plenty of logical reasons why the owners may want to keep him.
popillius
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Like I say, you have a wonderful habit of making yourself look rather silly.Oh dear, he's off again, bless him
Blue Maniac
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**** this, I’m gonna go and support Leicester Road.
big_mac4824
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Everton now 8th treat yourself.
You shouldn't. You should support Hinckley AFC instead.
David Gwilliam
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I am amazed that we are 8th since the performances I have seen have been deplorable. Statistics show Puel to have been successful and the fate of Southampton is a grim argument in his favour.
However, I find it useful to ask "if I was a young player would he inspire me the way Clough or Tommy Docherty did ." He is dreary and I can never understand a word he is saying and he goes on and on - like a certain member of this forum.
One of my favourite managers was Bill Shankly. Puel is as far from Shanks as possible and there is a wonderful 2 minute clip of a comedian paying tribute to Bill Shankly I want to share
However, I find it useful to ask "if I was a young player would he inspire me the way Clough or Tommy Docherty did ." He is dreary and I can never understand a word he is saying and he goes on and on - like a certain member of this forum.
One of my favourite managers was Bill Shankly. Puel is as far from Shanks as possible and there is a wonderful 2 minute clip of a comedian paying tribute to Bill Shankly I want to share
big_mac4824
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The players have certainly blown their season about two months ago sadly 6th place and possibly higher was on offer now we will struggle to stay in the top 10 if carry on in this way.
give_us_a_wave
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An interesting sidebar to all of this for me is that despite us having hit serious levels of under performance under 3 successive managers now, theres been nothing like as much criticism levelled at the players as there probably should be.
The same core group of players have been here for all these periods & yet ,apart from Mahrez in January, the vitriol has been directed elsewhere. Sure there's been pops at individuals for poor performances but not really any more than you'd expect in most seasons. Might we be looking in the wrong place to assign blame?
On another note I'd like to say a word here about Vardy. I think it's notable that he's been the one consistent performer during the slump.
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure that if anyone here (including me) was asked pre-2015/16 which player in the squad was most likely to have a meltdown & have his game go to pieces if we hit a turbulent period he'd have been favourite. He's proved to be exactly the opposite & has quietly gone about the business of having a quite outstanding season. Amongst all the gloom I think that should be recognised.
The same core group of players have been here for all these periods & yet ,apart from Mahrez in January, the vitriol has been directed elsewhere. Sure there's been pops at individuals for poor performances but not really any more than you'd expect in most seasons. Might we be looking in the wrong place to assign blame?
On another note I'd like to say a word here about Vardy. I think it's notable that he's been the one consistent performer during the slump.
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure that if anyone here (including me) was asked pre-2015/16 which player in the squad was most likely to have a meltdown & have his game go to pieces if we hit a turbulent period he'd have been favourite. He's proved to be exactly the opposite & has quietly gone about the business of having a quite outstanding season. Amongst all the gloom I think that should be recognised.
Miles Away
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Which players are we talking about here then?
City Fan
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You know, all those players who have under performed under three successive managers.
Maguire, Chilwell, Ndidi, Silva, Iborra, Diabate, Iheanacho etc.
give_us_a_wave
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Almost everyone...but Schmeichel, Fuchs, Morgan, Simpson, Albrighton have all had particularly massive drops in form during all 3 periods under all 3 managers. I'd probably leave out Mahrez but only because he's always been a hot & cold sort of player.
City Fan
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It’s harsh to include Simpson in that list. He has had a drop in form under Puel (because he’s been expected to just magically add different qualities to his game), but he didn’t drop form under Ranieri or Shakespeare.
fitz
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He's been poor this season. But him and Albrighton were 2 of very few who actually put a shift in before Claudio got the boot. Odd that people are trying to rewrite history and ignore all the accusations of them being snakes etc etc. It's like the fried chicken was never banned.
Brown Nose
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The 'good players go shit for larks' theory is not one that I have any time for.
I respect them all as professionals. However, they are all intermittently affected by varying levels of confidence, form and motivation. You know, just like all human beings are.
It is the managers job to maintain the highest level of performance possible from each individual. They do this with their interpersonal skills, their tactical and motivational abilities, and their command of a collective drive to achieve a shared goal.
Very few managers are good at all of the above. Very few can even sustain periods of being good at most of the above. That's because most managers are pretty terrible at their jobs.
Two years ago, we saw what is possible when a manager gets it all just right. However, Ranieri had never really done it before or since. Shakespeare was never going to achieve it because he hasn't even got the basic skills to be a manager.
Puel has only shown any aptitude for having a coherent tactical approach. It's a stupid one that is doomed to fail but he does have one. In every other important respect, he's completely hopeless.
I respect them all as professionals. However, they are all intermittently affected by varying levels of confidence, form and motivation. You know, just like all human beings are.
It is the managers job to maintain the highest level of performance possible from each individual. They do this with their interpersonal skills, their tactical and motivational abilities, and their command of a collective drive to achieve a shared goal.
Very few managers are good at all of the above. Very few can even sustain periods of being good at most of the above. That's because most managers are pretty terrible at their jobs.
Two years ago, we saw what is possible when a manager gets it all just right. However, Ranieri had never really done it before or since. Shakespeare was never going to achieve it because he hasn't even got the basic skills to be a manager.
Puel has only shown any aptitude for having a coherent tactical approach. It's a stupid one that is doomed to fail but he does have one. In every other important respect, he's completely hopeless.
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