give_us_a_wave
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quite a limited player who gave his all
For England that gets you 60 caps minimum
quite a limited player who gave his all
I agree with the most part of this, but even scraping past the lesser teams is something that we weren’t able to do in the last few tournaments.Pickford comes out of the tournament looking good.
The back three, for all the praise they got for looking a bit exotic on the ball, never really convinced in the somewhat important realm of actual defending. That said, Maguire will probably come out of it with an enhanced reputation among all the pundits and other fans who hadn't heard of him before because he doesn't play for a big club.
Trippier comes out of it looking good, Young did nothing and must now be finished at international level.
Henderson did better than expected but that's from a very low expectation base. Lingard was shite but he seems quite a limited player who gave his all so I'm not mad. Alli, on the back of a bad season with Spurs, was poor and has got work to do to get his career back on track and should definitely not be considered a shoe in for the first team unless he's able to find form at club level again.
Sterling was shit all tournament. Mahrez will oust him from his position at Man City with ease and hopefully somebody will step up and oust him from his England position as well. The success and failure of Harry Kane was summed up with his double miss in the first half. He's successful at scoring because he's extremely greedy, and he's a failure at winning trophies for the same reason. He then went missing in a way that only a spurs player can for the entire rest of the game.
They avoided abject embarrassment, and for that I'm thankful. But I'm not having this "they restored pride in the national team" crap. They only just beat Tunisia, Panama were so bad they don't count, they lost to Belgium, couldn't beat Colombia and lost to Croatia, a country of 4 million people. Only the Sweden result was remotely impressive, and even then, it's Sweden, so not really. We went out not to the first good team we played, but to the first not crap team we played, and it was only by pure luck of the draw that it wasn't until the semi final that we faced one.
In summary, entertaining tourney and a fun little ride but we're still a shit team and Southgate is still a shit manager. Them the facts.
Yeah he failed to spot what was happening and switch to a 433Southgate ****ed it by refusing to manage the game Infront of him.
Kanté and CroatiaSo on Sunday are we cheering for Kante or Krameric?
I've had an each-way on Croatia since before the event, so it's a vote for Kammy-pants, from me.I've had money on France to win it since the end of May, so France for me.
Aye but which of the other lot will win the third in a two horse race prize.Semi Finals :
Harry Kane, Dele Alli, Eric Dier, Danny Rose, Kieran Trippier, Jan Vertonghen, Toby Alderweireld, Mousa Dembele, Hugo Lloris
Final:
Hugo Lloris
All you need to know, really.........
Imagine if it was Hodgson who had overseen that last game.
He would be ****ing hammered for not making needed changes and relying on hope.
P | Pld | Pts | |
1 | Leicester | 44 | 94 |
2 | Leeds Utd | 44 | 90 |
3 | Ipswich | 43 | 89 |
4 | Southampton | 44 | 84 |
5 | West Brom | 44 | 72 |
6 | Norwich City | 44 | 72 |
7 | Hull City | 44 | 69 |
8 | Coventry City | 43 | 63 |
9 | Middlesbro | 44 | 63 |
10 | Preston | 44 | 63 |
11 | Cardiff City | 44 | 62 |
12 | Bristol City | 44 | 59 |
13 | Sunderland | 44 | 56 |
14 | Swansea City | 44 | 56 |
15 | Watford | 44 | 53 |
16 | Millwall | 44 | 53 |
17 | Stoke City | 44 | 50 |
18 | QPR | 44 | 50 |
19 | Blackburn | 44 | 49 |
20 | Plymouth | 44 | 48 |
21 | Sheffield W | 44 | 47 |
22 | Birmingham | 44 | 46 |
23 | Huddersfield | 44 | 44 |
24 | Rotherham Utd | 44 | 24 |