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I bet you were swayed to Puel out by someone who had wrote it into the dirt on the side of the 48 bus!

I don’t get the bus, it’s full of foreigners and brown people.
 
I don’t get the bus, it’s full of foreigners and brown people.

It's generally easier to read what is on the outside of the bus outside of it rather than actually being on it.

I wasn't calling you a bus wanker.
 
It's generally easier to read what is on the outside of the bus outside of it rather than actually being on it.

I wasn't calling you a bus wanker.
Never lose your sense of humour.
 
the best solution for us right now would be to drop Maddison into the midfield 3 of a 433 with Wilf there to use his athleticism to get around the pitch and Hamza to screen, I'm glad Papy has resurrected his career but he wouldn't be in my team right now, Barnes left wing and personally I'd stick Gray on the right and tell them both to be as direct as possible, get in the box and shoot, unless Vardy suddenly grows to 6'3" crossing is pointless

This unless we can get someone in to play alongside Wilf or Choudhury that is actually comfortable on the ball and not afraid to bomb forward with it either.

Seeing as incommings seem unlikely though, it seems the best option.
 
This unless we can get someone in to play alongside Wilf or Choudhury that is actually comfortable on the ball and not afraid to bomb forward with it either.

Seeing as incommings seem unlikely though, it seems the best option.
Maddison was playing in a deeper role, so presumably akin to this, at Norwich. Maybe pushing him back and then playing Ghezzel, who has looked better centrally tha. On the wing, off Vardy could work
 
This unless we can get someone in to play alongside Wilf or Choudhury that is actually comfortable on the ball and not afraid to bomb forward with it either.

Seeing as incommings seem unlikely though, it seems the best option.

Which you know for a fact the stubborn manager won't do.

It's pointless discussing great ideas to make the team better on the pitch because he won't change.

That's the ****ing problem
 
Which you know for a fact the stubborn manager won't do.

It's pointless discussing great ideas to make the team better on the pitch because he won't change.

That's the ****ing problem
How ever open to change and fan engagement have been in the past, I'm pretty sure that none of them has ever trawled a fan forum for new tactical ideas or to source recruits. Not even Martin Allen.

It's always been pointless discussing great ideas here, except for the shear fun of it
 
Wrong thread.

I work with a Forest fan and we have been discussing there manager fortunes over the last few weeks, as they have now had 26 managers in the 25 years since Clough left (including caretaker managers).

To his credit my mate was able to name nearly all of them, but he came to the conclusion that they had not appointed a single ‘good’ manager in that entire time.

That doesn’t mean that clubs should never sack a manager but it does highlight the difficulty with choosing a new manager and for that reason I am still of the opinion that we should wait until the summer before choosing our next manager.

I would change my mind however if there was someone of the quality of Benitez available and keen to come.
 
Wrong thread.

I work with a Forest fan and we have been discussing there manager fortunes over the last few weeks, as they have now had 26 managers in the 25 years since Clough left (including caretaker managers).

To his credit my mate was able to name nearly all of them, but he came to the conclusion that they had not appointed a single ‘good’ manager in that entire time.

That doesn’t mean that clubs should never sack a manager but it does highlight the difficulty with choosing a new manager and for that reason I am still of the opinion that we should wait until the summer before choosing our next manager.

I would change my mind however if there was someone of the quality of Benitez available and keen to come.

Well they are just about to appoint a good one now in MON. Wonder if we'll wish we had got him.
 
See this is the attitude that we need to take:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46802041


Everton have set themselves the ambitious target of winning the Premier League at their proposed new stadium. It is anticipated the planning application for the Toffees' proposed £500m Bramley-Moore Dock Stadium will be submitted later in 2019. Toffees chief executive Denise Barrett-Baxendale said it would be the catalyst for a return to the highest levels of the game. "It means challenging for domestic titles and trophies," she said. "Not only to win cups but to win Premier League titles too." Everton last won the league in 1987 while their last top-four finish was in 2005.

They are currently 11th in the Premier League. In a wide-ranging speech at the club's annual meeting on Tuesday, Barrett-Baxendale admitted it was "an extremely challenging goal" but said it was achievable over time under owner Farhad Moshiri. She said: "The barriers to entry are daunting but we must all be focused and driven to meet the challenge." Moshiri said: "A new stadium is a necessity. We don't have a choice. We don't have a plan B or C. "It is extremely expensive. It will cost us £100m more than other sites but it is like Mastermind. We have started so we will finish. "I have spent £250m to turn a museum into a competitive outfit, we will complete the stadium. We will raise £350m through the city, the naming rights will be some more. There is an equity gap of £100m. This club is sufficiently robust to see this project through. "If we want a big club we need a modern stadium."

Everton's 'long-term, holistic strategy' to be masterminded by Brands Barrett-Baxendale was appointed chief executive on 15 May this year. Twenty-four hours later she sacked manager Sam Allardyce and director of football Steve Walsh. In what has been described as a challenging six months since, she has appointed Marco Silva and Marcel Brands as their replacements and undertaken a major review of Everton's entire operation. As a consequence, she has enhanced Brands' role, putting him in charge of Everton's 'whole football strategy', which has also seen the Dutchman appointed to the club's board. She said: "Marcel is now accountable for delivering the long-term, holistic football strategy and principles from the academy through to the first team." Silva also received backing despite Everton winning just one out of their last eight Premier League games: "We are pleased with how he has integrated, with a clear focus on first-team coaching and development."

'Confident' of securing stadium finance Moshiri bought a 49.9% stake in Everton on 27 February 2016. Since then he is estimated to have spent £250m on the club, mostly on players. The investment has seen Everton record successive top-eight finishes after a couple of seasons in the bottom half of the table.

However, it is the Bramley-Moore Dock project in Vauxhall - around two miles from the club's existing home at Goodison Park - that Barrett-Baxendale believes holds the key to Everton's return to the elite of the English game. Despite scepticism in some quarters, she said Everton were "as confident as we can be of securing the finance we need". She added that the scheme itself would act as a catalyst to regenerate the entire north Liverpool area. "It will create 15,000 jobs, attract 1.5million additional tourists and help accelerate the £5.5bn development of the Liverpool Waters scheme," she said. Deputy chairman Keith Harris said: "We have the unknowns presented by Brexit, we have inflation, we have the effect of the exchange rate in this country as most of the materials will be imported. But [the proposed stadium] is on a terrific site and those challenges will be met and beaten. "I cannot promise an end date because we haven't yet broken ground. We are on track with our work to apply for planning and hope to put a spade in the ground early next year and it would be wonderful if we could complete this in two years. We should certainly be in a position to complete it in three years. "We expect there will be an instruction for safe standing. It could increase capacity by 10,000."
 
he was a good one, never really been the same since Villa don't think he quite has the same passion

Where are Sunderland and Villa now? Sunderland was rotten to the core, not much he could do there.

Maybe Forest will ignite the old passion, especially given his playing career there and links to Clough. As much as I hate the bastards like any self-respecting City fan, I hope his does well there and we see them in the Premier League soon (and given them a good hiding).

On the Puel front, we definitely should not sack him unless there is a much better option, but I’m pretty disgusted by the stewards actions on Saturday. I really hope we’re not going to turn into one of “those clubs” where the owners and fans don’t see eye to eye.
 
Where are Sunderland and Villa now? Sunderland was rotten to the core, not much he could do there.

Maybe Forest will ignite the old passion, especially given his playing career there and links to Clough. As much as I hate the bastards like any self-respecting City fan, I hope his does well there and we see them in the Premier League soon (and given them a good hiding).

On the Puel front, we definitely should not sack him unless there is a much better option, but I’m pretty disgusted by the stewards actions on Saturday. I really hope we’re not going to turn into one of “those clubs” where the owners and fans don’t see eye to eye.
I wish Martin well but something changed in him around that Villa time, maybe it's just as simple as his time having passed
 
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