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Adrien Silva

Discussion in 'Leicester City' started by Jeff, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. FOX Franks

    FOX Franks Well-Known Member

    We can always loan him out.
     
  2. LudlowFox

    LudlowFox Active Member

    Is there an open window?
     
  3. Dour

    Dour Well-Known Member

    If there is, make sure you throw your poo long and hard.
     
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  4. SJN-Fox

    SJN-Fox Well-Known Member

  5. fitz

    fitz Well-Known Member

    Is that 48 hours or 48 hours and 14 seconds?
     
  6. dpjfox

    dpjfox Active Member

    it appears we havent even appealed yet, not worth it without excellent evidence
     
  7. Lako42

    Lako42 Well-Known Member

    I take that as no fucking chance of us overturning.
     
  8. Feriol

    Feriol Well-Known Member

    I hear suggestions that we are looking at a legal challenge, but to cancel the deal completely rather than overturn FIFA's decision. Apparently we are trying to annul the deal so that he reverts to being a Sporting player, and we don't have to pay them anything. We have also apparently missed the first installment due to be paid to sporting.

    Don't have a source, but was the talk down the pub this evening.
     
  9. glyn

    glyn Well-Known Member

    And yet Shakey said today he has trained at our sports science dept.

    Good job making him feel wanted if we're trying to weasel out of the deal now but still want him in Jan, which I'd expect given how much we've said we really wanted him for some time.
     
  10. SilverFox

    SilverFox Well-Known Member

    I've not looked at the rule but rely on Jeff's comments earlier. If that is right (which I am sure it is Jeff) the rule is that:-

    'the International Transfer Certificate must be requested by the new association (so us - LCFC) in the Transfer Matching System (the web based system used to record transfers) on the last day of the registration period of the new association.'

    So in a nutshell we had to request an International Transfer Certificate and that request had to be done in their Transfer Matching System by the midnight deadline. The obligation to ensure delivery (i.e. on that system before midnight) seems to have been ours.

    All we know is that FIFA say it wasn't on that system by that midnight deadline. It was late by seconds.

    We could get away with it I suppose if the problem with the request not being on that system was not our fault but FIFA's (their system being down for example).

    Pure speculation (and I stress I don't really know the rules - the extent of my research is Jeff's earlier comment) but on the wording above, if we don't have a very good reason, we are just throwing ourselves at the discretion of FIFA who could decide to strictly apply the rule. There is a possibility that they might decide that enforcing against us for being 14 seconds late is unfair to the player. I don't know. On that wording it seems that they don't have to allow this. I doubt they will want to create a precedent. If one club is allowed to sign players after the deadline that everyone else is bound by it leaves a bitter taste.
     
  11. Mike - True Blue Tinter

    Mike - True Blue Tinter Well-Known Member

    Not a lawyer, but I would have thought to cancel the sale, the contract would probably have to say something like, 'subject to international clearance within 2 weeks', or similar.

    It does not however make us look good with the player, the selling club, or any other players and clubs we would want to do business with.

    Despite the huge salaries, I am sure if we want the best players to want to come to us, we have to treat them a bit better than, 'sorry, last-minute impulse buy, did not read small print about how it worked, returning for refund'.
     
  12. SilverFox

    SilverFox Well-Known Member

    I don't think we are cancelling the contract. I've only seen speculation on that. The fact he is training with our sports science people suggests to me we are not trying to cancel any deal. If you want to say a contract has been broken or frustrated or never came into being, you can't do something to affirm it (I.e. Treat it as continuing). Inviting him to train with us (even our sports science guys) would in my view be affirmation. We are treating him as 'ours'. In doing so we are treating the contract as continuing.
     
  13. SilverFox

    SilverFox Well-Known Member

    You can't have your cake and also eat it.
     
  14. Lako42

    Lako42 Well-Known Member

    Our midfield options are so fucking good that we haven't even appealed this yet.....nice
     
  15. spenno

    spenno Active Member

    Does the fact we’re only now appealing suggest we have finally accepted he’s our player? And the delay with appealing was due to discussions with Sporting.
     
  16. LudlowFox

    LudlowFox Active Member

    Whatever anyone thinks that anything suggests is probably wrong. Face it, we haven't an effing clue what's happening, how the deal is structured nor how the process goes. And I doubt CS knows either. To interpret any action, or non-action, in any particular way is simply pissing in the wind - amusing perhaps but worth little else.

    We might as well suggest we're swapping Silva for a tin of pilchards.
     
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  17. Blaarev

    Blaarev Well-Known Member

    That's now probably the talk down the pub this evening.
     
  18. FOX Franks

    FOX Franks Well-Known Member

    If we do, we might as well sign him as a free agent.
     
  19. camberwell fox

    camberwell fox Well-Known Member

    Oh cod.
     
  20. City Fan

    City Fan Well-Known Member

    This is not the plaice for puns.
     
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