Financial Fair Play

[Lako42]

Am I missing something here, there is no FFP in the Premier League, or not yet.

How the ****ity is that fair?

 

[Redditch Fox]

Heaven knows FFP is not perfect, but it is the best that we've got to rein in the 'money rules' attitude to football. If we lose FFP, I foresee a Premier League that cuts itself off from the lower leagues.

Let's stop messing about with silly regulations. Money rules anyway and quite rightly so. If business is prepared to chuck vast amounts at football then let them get on with it. The punitive Football League FFP stance and silly UEFA stuff is a reflection of the no hopers (vast majority) conspiring to rein back the minority of ambitious clubs who see themselves as potentially Premier League.

I think the Football League should run regionalised leagues and be separated from the Premierr League structure. Have a Premier League A and a Premier League B (only 20 clubs max) offering some financial security to 'investors'.At present there is too much (bad) football.

The above should have minimum ground capacity requirements (say) 30,000 and should be effectively a franchise system some with limited relegation between the Premier League B and the Football League structure - but 3 up/3 down between Premier League A and B.

The bottom 3 of the Premier League demonstrates that we are already moving towards a split system but be default. It should be done properly.

 

[FryattFox]

Am I missing something here, there is no FFP in the Premier League, or not yet.

How the ****ity is that fair?

There is.

So you are missing something.

 

[Mawsley]

I miss the 70s.

Proper winters, proper food, proper celebrities.

 

[Hazzman]

I miss the 70s.

Proper winters, proper food, proper celebrities.

Get into non-league. It's like that. Went Halesowen last Saturday and this week to watch Loughborough University (which was surprisingly decent). £10/£5 to get in (nothing actually for Lufbra Uni after turning up late). Proper grub, beer with sight of the pitch and players who talk to the fans. I can see this being the road I take within the next three to four years.

 

[Mawsley]

Get into non-league. It's like that. Went Halesowen last Saturday and this week to watch Loughborough University (which was surprisingly decent). £10/£5 to get in (nothing actually for Lufbra Uni after turning up late). Proper grub, beer with sight of the pitch and players who talk to the fans. I can see this being the road I take within the next three to four years.

I did a season of KTFC, it ended up just resembling everything ****ed about modern football with a greedy & ignorant shit destroying a club. Would have gone to the Diamonds were they not in Wellingborough now, I don't do Wellingborough.

 

[Hazzman]

I did a season of KTFC, it ended up just resembling everything ****ed about modern football with a greedy & ignorant shit destroying a club. Would have gone to the Diamonds were they not in Wellingborough now, I don't do Wellingborough.

Fair point - there's still some shysters about the lower levels. But I could quite happy go from different club to club on my Saturday afternoons I reckon.

 

[Lako42]

Fair point - there's still some shysters about the lower levels. But I could quite happy go from different club to club on my Saturday afternoons I reckon.

Slag

 

[Redditch Fox]

Get into non-league. It's like that. Went Halesowen last Saturday and this week to watch Loughborough University (which was surprisingly decent). £10/£5 to get in (nothing actually for Lufbra Uni after turning up late). Proper grub, beer with sight of the pitch and players who talk to the fans. I can see this being the road I take within the next three to four years.

I imagine that this would be similar to the Foxes Trust manifesto for the future of Leicester City.

Nothing wrong with this model either but it's not the same thing as the future for'big clubs' and those that aspire to be 'big clubs'. I think that the governance system should be changed - one for grass roots football and an extended Premier League for the elite.

This season has confirmed that LCFC has quite a lot of the foundation in place to be an elite club: facilities, level of support and owners prepared to lash out lots of money. Just a shame that the owners didn't understand the realities of the big time game and were not tooled up with the righ playing staff and I'm sorry to say management that was at the right level for the Premier League.

The Football League is just a mill stone round the neck of a club like Leicester. The FL just namby pambies around allegedly trying to protect clubs from going broke (in reality its all about envy). Bollocks to that. If they choose to go broke - let them. There will always be football in Leicester, irrespective.

 

[Hazzman]

I imagine that this would be similar to the Foxes Trust manifesto for the future of Leicester City.

Nothing wrong with this model either but it's not the same thing as the future for'big clubs' and those that aspire to be 'big clubs'. I think that the governance system should be changed - one for grass roots football and an extended Premier League for the elite.

This season has confirmed that LCFC has quite a lot of the foundation in place to be an elite club: facilities, level of support and owners prepared to lash out lots of money. Just a shame that the owners didn't understand the realities of the big time game and were not tooled up with the righ playing staff and I'm sorry to say management that was at the right level for the Premier League.

The Football League is just a mill stone round the neck of a club like Leicester. The FL just namby pambies around allegedly trying to protect clubs from going broke (in reality its all about envy). Bollocks to that. If they choose to go broke - let them. There will always be football in Leicester, irrespective.

Bit of a tangent there Redditch. Football will always be in the larger cities. The sport is cyclic as money leads the way. Non-league will always supply a differing option to that of professionalism. There's a tiny changing tide where folk are beginning to turn their back on the professional leagues and get behind their non-league clubs. For most of those turning, they actually feel part of something. Treated well for their loyalty as opposed to an addicted supporter.

This season has descended into everything I hate about the sport. It's not the performances which I'm annoyed with or the tactics in which I can see a 90% logic. In fact in a perverse way, some of the games have actually been a enjoyable watch and if it was for my support of LCFC, I would be saying how we are an entertaining side who've played in a lot of decent games this year.

It's the whole surrounding noise of entitled glory and success which is largely presented in an apathetic state in the ground but a barrage of hate via the media (radio, television, internet). There's absolutely no measured reason taken by some fans. The attitude that the other side is always greener. The attitude of constantly looking back at failures rather than success and not concentrating on the now.

We will go down as simply not good enough (collectively as a club - even the owners have undermined our performance). We have the core of a good Championship side for next season. We will follow the pattern this football club has always followed.

 

[Borderfox]

I do not understand why everyone is getting into such a tiz, whether you are for or against FFP. The fact is when anyone with money can hide their earnings in off-shore accounts or even in HSBC if you believe the press, the the reverse strategy is equally possible. Accountants are employees after all, its their job to know the in and outs of financial rules and regulations and as a consequence make out their employer is as pure as the driven snow. Do you really think the 'owners' of 'King Power' can increase their wealth by nearly a billion dollars, OK 800 million for the pedantic out there without some creative accounting, a few million quid in FFP terms is an itch you can scratch.

 

[Macky]

I do not understand why everyone is getting into such a tiz

I hadn't even realised that anybody was

 

[Cate Fox]

I hadn't even realised that anybody was

Damn, I was hoping to see some shenanigans.

 

[drew]

even the owners have undermined our performance

From what I can see they've backed the manager, provided funds for him to buy players and kept their trap shut, how have they undermined performances?

 

[Foxes_Trust]

I imagine that this would be similar to the Foxes Trust manifesto for the future of Leicester City.

Nothing wrong with this model either but it's not the same thing as the future for'big clubs' and those that aspire to be 'big clubs'. I think that the governance system should be changed - one for grass roots football and an extended Premier League for the elite..

We certainly don't want the club to go to the wall and reform as AFC Leicester, which has happened at some clubs which were in the higher divisions many years ago or even more locally at Hinckley.

In Lower Leagues, certainly Trusts can take over clubs, but Swansea have proved you can maintain Premiership status while the Trust has a significant say on how the club is ran.

 

[Miles Away]

From what I can see they've backed the manager, provided funds for him to buy players and kept their trap shut, how have they undermined performances?

You mean apart from that time one of them fired Pearson and the other overruled him causing a media circus?

 

[Brown Nose]

You mean apart from that time one of them fired Pearson and the other overruled him causing a media circus?

Shhh!

We're all supposed to be Stepford Wives'ing the **** out of the remainder of this season. It's the only way. I might even get a half and half scarf on Saturday to show my respect for NPs history at Dull.

Irrespective of the result or performance, let's make football the winner.

 

[Redditch Fox]

We certainly don't want the club to go to the wall and reform as AFC Leicester, which has happened at some clubs which were in the higher divisions many years ago or even more locally at Hinckley.

In Lower Leagues, certainly Trusts can take over clubs, but Swansea have proved you can maintain Premiership status while the Trust has a significant say on how the club is ran.

I wouldn't worry too much. It's the holding company (or whatever) behind the club that goes under. As I said before there will always be sufficient interest in Leicester to support a football club.

The reality is that only 'silly' money gives a chance for a club like Leicester to have a place with the big boys. The way your group thinks would always confine the club to being also rans (Swansea notwithstanding).

 

[drew]

You mean apart from that time one of them fired Pearson and the other overruled him causing a media circus?

Was that ever confirmed? I'm not trying to be facetious.

I'd of got rid of Pearson in late November.

 

[Fox Fan]

Bit of a tangent there Redditch. Football will always be in the larger cities. The sport is cyclic as money leads the way. Non-league will always supply a differing option to that of professionalism. There's a tiny changing tide where folk are beginning to turn their back on the professional leagues and get behind their non-league clubs. For most of those turning, they actually feel part of something. Treated well for their loyalty as opposed to an addicted supporter.

This season has descended into everything I hate about the sport. It's not the performances which I'm annoyed with or the tactics in which I can see a 90% logic. In fact in a perverse way, some of the games have actually been a enjoyable watch and if it was for my support of LCFC, I would be saying how we are an entertaining side who've played in a lot of decent games this year.

It's the whole surrounding noise of entitled glory and success which is largely presented in an apathetic state in the ground but a barrage of hate via the media (radio, television, internet). There's absolutely no measured reason taken by some fans. The attitude that the other side is always greener. The attitude of constantly looking back at failures rather than success and not concentrating on the now.

We will go down as simply not good enough (collectively as a club - even the owners have undermined our performance). We have the core of a good Championship side for next season. We will follow the pattern this football club has always followed.

Totally agree Hazz. As a result of our success the club have completely lost touch with those who stuck with them during the bad times. Any ounce of customer service, helpfulness or loyalty has been jettisoned as demand currently outstrips supply. It's even little things like the ticket office not knowing basic ticketing information, the website not being updated, the twitter feed that doesn't respond to fans, the charging for mascots, the removal of the Balti pie etc etc etc. Probably much of this has crept in over a period of years, but only when the pressure has built up in the system does it become clearer.

Oh and how many more people are getting up at 40 mins to go and get their pies this year and leaving at 85 mins? The attitude of some of our 'fans' stinks.

But having said all of that, if we had won 5 more games this year, I would probably be perfectly happy.