Post Match Leicester 2 Stoke 0

[yackandandah]

But Shinji was open and should have scored - excpet he's shinji of course

Which is the point. Who do you back to put the chance away, Okazaki or Vardy?

To be fair to Gray, I did think that maybe he was on his wrong foot, or something, to play in Vardy. It looked equal from a spectator's view but one doesn't know.

 

[FIF]

Which is the point. Who do you back to put the chance away, Okazaki or Vardy?

To be fair to Gray, I did think that maybe he was on his wrong foot, or something, to play in Vardy. It looked equal from a spectator's view but one doesn't know.

If I was Gray and given those options I'd have shot at goal myself.

 

[Volpone]

I genuinely don't know if you are writing this convoluted nonsense to get a reaction (it has worked if that is the case) or, rather more worryingly, whether you actually believe this claptrap.

Schlupp did none of the things you seem to have imagined of him for 85 of any of the 90 minutes he was on the pitch. The term 'headless chicken' doesn't even come close to describing his wayward and inefficient style of 'football'. Gray is infinitely better in nearly every department both actually and potentially. Quite how you can even compare the two without any shadow of irony is beyond any reasonable comprehension. Gray wasn't at his best yesterday and yet for 90 minutes he was better that nearly anything we saw from Schlupp for nearly all of the time he was with us.

Normally when I disagree with you, I can a least see your logic. This time however, I cannot even begin to comprehend what you're thinking. Total and utter madness from start to finish.

I have to agree with you on this.

Normally I agree with Brown Nose at least 90% of the time. His observations are usually the most astute on here but this time he is absurdly way off the mark. Totally incomprehensible on this occasion.

It took him along time to enjoy our Champions League adventure. Maybe it will take a long time to see he is wrong on this too.

 

[Blaarev]

Cake and beer on Tuesday

A wonderful combination.

 

[Brown Nose]

I have to agree with you on this.

Normally I agree with Brown Nose at least 90% of the time. His observations are usually the most astute on here but this time he is absurdly way off the mark. Totally incomprehensible on this occasion.

It took him along time to enjoy our Champions League adventure. Maybe it will take a long time to see he is wrong on this too.

Where does he fit in though?

We have better attacking and better defending players in midfield.

When he starts scoring or creating one goal every two or three games, he'll be worth the hype. Right now though, the fuss over him is nonsensical.

He got the ball loads yesterday with space and time and consistently made bad decisions.

 

[Matt_B]

Where does he fit in though?

We have better attacking and better defending players in midfield.

When he starts scoring or creating one goal every two or three games, he'll be worth the hype. Right now though, the fuss over him is nonsensical.

He got the ball loads yesterday with space and time and consistently made bad decisions.

Exactly this. If it had been Musa doing exactly the same things he would have been slaughtered. If you are scaring the opposition "half to death" all match then I would expect something to come of it yet neither of the goals and none of the close chances bar his own shot came from his play. He may come food but I really can't see why many consider him to be so amazing. At the minute I can see he going one of two ways; he'll either sort out the end product part of him game and fulfill his potential or else he'll become another Ben Marshall and drift down the divisions.

 

[popillius]

Where does he fit in though?

We have better attacking and better defending players in midfield.

When he starts scoring or creating one goal every two or three games, he'll be worth the hype. Right now though, the fuss over him is nonsensical.

He got the ball loads yesterday with space and time and consistently made bad decisions.

He really didn't you know. You must try and watch his performance again, it wasn't perfect but it was a lot better than you summarise. As for where he fits in, well, exactly where he played yesterday. You have always been an advocate for selecting the 'correct' team for each opposition, quite rightly, and Gray will sometimes be a much better option on that side than Albrighton whereas in other games, Albrighton' s tireless tracking back will serve us better.

 

[popillius]

Exactly this. If it had been Musa doing exactly the same things he would have been slaughtered. If you are scaring the opposition "half to death" all match then I would expect something to come of it yet neither of the goals and none of the close chances bar his own shot came from his play. He may come food but I really can't see why many consider him to be so amazing. At the minute I can see he going one of two ways; he'll either sort out the end product part of him game and fulfill his potential or else he'll become another Ben Marshall and drift down the divisions.

You really shouldn't start such a post with '...if it had been Musa doing this....' when Musa has shown absolutely nothing like the level of performances Gray has so far. Musa couldn't have done what Gray was doing yesterday simply because he hasn't shown (yet?) that he is anywhere near talented enough to do so. Like most, I'm not swayed by self important pundits who like to show how much more they know about football than others, but generally they aren't far from the mark - you'd be hard pushed to find one who wasn't impressed by the endeavour and energy of Gray yesterday. All of this nonsense about 'not creating anything blah blah...' is rubbish. He created fear in their defence every time he ran at them, making them drop further and further back and step further and further off. This, in itself, was enough to stretch them time and time again. His performance yesterday was miles ahead of anything we have seen in the league from Musa by an exponetially massive distance.

You've now made comparisons to Gray using both Schlupp and Marshall as examples.... You're only a Junior Lewis away from winning a prize for the most batshit crazy evaluation of a player ever made on TB.

 

[Blaarev]

You've now made comparisons to Gray using both Schlupp and Marshall as examoles.... You're only a Junior Lewis away from winning a prize for the most batshit crazy evaluation of a player ever made on TB.

Josh Low

 

[FIF]

Exactly this. If it had been Musa doing exactly the same things he would have been slaughtered.

and if it was Messi he'd have been praised to high heaven.

As it is it was Gray and MOST people thought he was one of 2 for man of the match.

 

[popillius]

Josh Low

I'd forgotten him. Thanks for the memory. Bastard.

 

[popillius]

and if it was Messi he'd have been praised to high heaven.

As it is it was Gray and MOST people thought he was one of 2 for man of the match.

Bingo. It's the disease of some Leicester fans I'm afraid; look for what we can criticise first before looking for what we can praise.

*Edit; to clarify, I'm not including Matt B in that who is (usually) one of the more positive posters.

 

[Borderfox]

Gray lacks guile, understanding of positional play, and forgets he plays in a team game. However, he is still very young and these sort of things he will learn through experience, in my opinion he is one of the most exciting players on our books. Some one said earlier he will be an England player in a couple of years, I would agree with that assessment . Forget potential he has real quality in spades ( if your a bridge player), give the lad a break, don't expect to much to soon.

 

[Micky]

Gray lacks guile, understanding of positional play, and forgets he plays in a team game. However, he is still very young and these sort of things he will learn through experience, in my opinion he is one of the most exciting players on our books. Some one said earlier he will be an England player in a couple of years, I would agree with that assessment . Forget potential he has real quality in spades ( if your a bridge player), give the lad a break, don't expect to much to soon.

He has similar assets to Sterling and Redmond. He will become a very good player if his attitude is good and he is coached well.

 

[Mawsley]

*Edit; to clarify, I'm not including Matt B in that who is (usually) one of the more positive posters.

Best poster on here, reminds me very much of Steven in his prime.

 

[Matt_B]

Best poster on here, reminds me very much of Steven in his prime.

Aww shucks!

 

[big_mac4824]

When Gray has scored or created or worked for the team half as much as Schlupp did, then you might have a point.

Too many people rate players based on nothing more than potential nowadays. Gray is potentially excellent but he hasn't done anything yet. He doesn't score enough, he barely ever creates chances for others, his passing is poor, his decision making is terrible and his work rate is feeble.

Schlupp's decision making was also terrible but he out-performed Gray in every other one of those attributes. Schlupp was also versatile and a team player. Gray can only do one thing and looks to me as though he plays for himself.

Right now, I don't even think it's a close contest.

Brown Nose what have you been smoking Schlupp was the most bone IDLE player I have ever seen in a Leicester shirt

 

[big_mac4824]

Exactly this. If it had been Musa doing exactly the same things he would have been slaughtered. If you are scaring the opposition "half to death" all match then I would expect something to come of it yet neither of the goals and none of the close chances bar his own shot came from his play. He may come food but I really can't see why many consider him to be so amazing. At the minute I can see he going one of two ways; he'll either sort out the end product part of him game and fulfill his potential or else he'll become another Ben Marshall and drift down the divisions.

He is not amazing but played really well he turned defence into attack in a split second often resulting in corners and free kicks against him, I mean he is what 20 years old? He has the ability to become a great if he works his bollocks off give credit where credit is due he played bloody well on Saturday.

 

[Miles Away]

People underestimating Schlupps time at Leicester. Was every bit as impactful a 20 year old as Gray.

Didn't develop as we'd like but when he was Grays age he was highly rated.

I'm still not entirely convinced about Gray, flashes of brilliance but his final ball is as poor as Schlupps.

Ultimately I'd much rather have Gray, but just wanted to point out that Schlupp wasn't always the one dimensional oaf we sold to Palace.

 

[Feriol]

Brown Nose what have you been smoking Schlupp was the most bone IDLE player I have ever seen in a Leicester shirt

Schlupp wasn't idle for most of his time here. Yes he lacked composure in the final third, but he was in the final third a lot because of his willingness to run. He was often instrumental in our ability to counter quickly.

I think his development suffered from not getting a run of games in one position, and if he gets that run, and a bit of confidence then Palace will have a decent player.