Premier League 2016/17

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Top 6 looking pretty much as expected but us and West Ham near the bottom won't last. Cream rises.
 
Sunderland fans leaving in droves again.
3-0 down to his old team -Moyes could be getting his P45 soon.

Sunderland fans always have pressing business to attend on the 60 minute mark until February.
 
just watched last night's game.

Chelsea proved that they are just average and their position is due to playing weak teams. Liverpool played a great 30 minutes and then played average football too. It was a just result.

Liverpool will be challenging at the end of the year. Chelsea will be below us.
 
looking at the table now, I don't see anyone below us who should finish above us and feel that we'll finish well above WBA.

8th is the lowest I expect us to finish (at the moment).

From the games I've watched I see no reason why we can't finish above Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton, Manure, Spurs. So I'm open to the idea of getting CL next season too.
 
Man City are looking good though, even Stirling looks a different player.
And West Brom could get some more wins than before if Chandli and Rondon keep hitting it off. Everton look much better under Koeman, certainly in defence and midfield.
 
Man Utd look like England under Hodgson, to me. Too many players being played out of position, so their shape looks poor.
 
Watford are looking good, but agree about Man U, too many players trying to do the same job and getting in each others way rather than creating options. Rooney in particular is too busy trying to do other peoples jobs and neglecting his own.
 
Firstly - I'm a Rooney fan. I think he's a quality player, who often gets the brunt of the blame, because of his name.

However, he is hampering Man Utd and England, in this current role. He isn't a midfielder and is harming the shape of each team, by being played there. He's getting in the way of the actual midfielders and not helping the forwards. This lack of shape then hampers the wide men. He either needs to be up front, alongside/behind a striker, or not in the team.
 
As I said Manure aren't all that and we can finish above them.
 
Manure got what their big heads deserve.
 
Firstly - I'm a Rooney fan. I think he's a quality player, who often gets the brunt of the blame, because of his name.

However, he is hampering Man Utd and England, in this current role. He isn't a midfielder and is harming the shape of each team, by being played there. He's getting in the way of the actual midfielders and not helping the forwards. This lack of shape then hampers the wide men. He either needs to be up front, alongside/behind a striker, or not in the team.

Man U will be twice the team as soon as Mourinho realises that he gets in the way rather than helps the side.

When he was younger and aspired to be nothing more than a striker, he was excellent for both Man U and England. However, at some point he got an ego the size of Jupiter and decided he could play anywhere and do everything.

Since that time, he's been total dogshite for both. The fact that 'strong' managers like Mourinho and Allardyce are the latest to be suckered into believing the hype is baffling.
 
Could be a tough one next week. They will be hurt and out to prove something.

Or they play like a bag of shite again and we walk away with the points.
 
Man U will be twice the team as soon as Mourinho realises that he gets in the way rather than helps the side.

When he was younger and aspired to be nothing more than a striker, he was excellent for both Man U and England. However, at some point he got an ego the size of Jupiter and decided he could play anywhere and do everything.

Since that time, he's been total dogshite for both. The fact that 'strong' managers like Mourinho and Allardyce are the latest to be suckered into believing the hype is baffling.
Yep. Having spent all that money on Pogba, they aren't letting him do his thing, by having Rooney in there. He needs another midfielder in with him, as he's wasted at the moment. This is on top of what Rooney is doing to their wide men and therefore, by default, the service that Ibrahimovic is getting.

From a City perspective, long may in continue, though.
 
Could be a tough one next week. They will be hurt and out to prove something.

Or they play like a bag of shite again and we walk away with the points.

Let's hope we get 5 quick goals and kick on from there.
 
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P Pld Pts
1Ipswich4389
2Leicester4288
3Leeds Utd4387
4Southampton4284
5West Brom4372
6Norwich City4371
7Hull City4265
8Coventry City4263
9Middlesbro4363
10Preston 4363
11Cardiff City4359
12Bristol City4358
13Sunderland4356
14Swansea City4353
15Watford4352
16Millwall4350
17Blackburn 4349
18Plymouth 4348
19QPR4347
20Stoke City4347
21Birmingham4345
22Huddersfield4344
23Sheffield W4344
24Rotherham Utd4323

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