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Puel out

Discussion in 'Leicester City' started by Micky, Mar 3, 2018.

  1. Brown Nose

    Brown Nose Well-Known Member

    Completely agree with this. The days when a new manager got a couple of years to work things out before expectations are fully applied are long gone. And quite right too. Why should that be acceptable?

    Clubs are not run in that way any more. Recruitment, youth policies, contracts, etc. are all decided pretty independently of the manager. He's just there to pick the team and select the tactical approach.

    If Puel needs time, the owners quite rightly won't give him it.
  2. Blue Maniac

    Blue Maniac Alzheimers sufferer

    I don’t disagree that it’s nice when the game is entertaining, but I think football and many other sports are and have always been about more than simply entertainment.
    I feel safe from contradiction when I say the owners probably feel otherwise.
    Well, yes, but I’d argue that has little to do with what’s happening on the pitch.
    I’m always fascinated by people who compare their employment situations with those of football managers. I think there are very few professions from which meaningful analogies to the football industry can be constructed.
  3. LeeCovFox

    LeeCovFox Well-Known Member

    I think there’s a balance to be struck. There are numerous examples, some of which I cited yesterday, of middling clubs getting good results whilst playing entertaining football.

    I’m finding myself bored at our matches at the moment. No doubt I’d have a moan about the defence if we were winning every game 4-3. I see the value of being a good defemsive side. I liked that about O’Neill’s sides. I also see the value in keeping possession. I’ve enjoyed watching Guardiola’s teams down the years.

    There is merit in us trying to have those elements to our game but they shouldn’t be entirely to the detriment of our ability to create or play at pace. But that’s what it feels like at the moment and, when taking into account the complaints of Southampton supporters last season, it worries and annoys me.
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  4. LeeCovFox

    LeeCovFox Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Mar 4, 2018
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  5. LeeCovFox

    LeeCovFox Well-Known Member

    I don’t quite know how I’ve managed to bugger that up so spectacularly and expect a conversation about an exit strategy from my forumming career to begin forthwith.
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  6. fitz

    fitz Well-Known Member

    You could excuse us ditching entertainment if it was to try and win. We're not trying to entertain or win. It's just dull football for the sake of it.
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  7. Blue Maniac

    Blue Maniac Alzheimers sufferer

    This is part of the problem, really. People think nothing of dropping £35-50 on a Premier League ticket, ~£100 on a month of Sky. The game is saturated with money it simply hasn’t ‘earned’ in the traditional sense of the word, but only at the very top level, so the desperation to stay in the league is just good business. And thus, so is low-risk, unexciting football for anyone outside the top few.

    The EPL is boring as shit and fans pissing silly money directly into the game’s increasingly giant pot is why.
  8. Skitzo

    Skitzo Well-Known Member

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  9. Blue Maniac

    Blue Maniac Alzheimers sufferer

    How many crosses did we put in yesterday, and why?
  10. LeeCovFox

    LeeCovFox Well-Known Member

    The first Morgan chance was a bit behind him. It was a lovely ball in but probably quite difficult to score from. He needed to be a yard further back. The others, fair enough.

    But it’s about our general play. We start creating chances from scrappy situations, normally from half cleared set pieces. And we don’t start attacking until we are already losing at home against shit teams. Even then it takes us half an hour after conceding to decide that’s what we ought to do.

    That’s a big part of the frustration. We know we can create. We’ve shown it even in these recent crap matches. Perhaps if we tried doing so from the first minute we’d have six more points from the last three home games and be two points behind a struggling Arsenal side instead of eight.
  11. bloo

    bloo Active Member

    And I'd agree, but it's not about missing sitters. If it were only that then I'd be relatively happy. Sometimes, it just won't go in (said the actress...) And we tend only to miss the sitters once we've become desperate and are chasing the game. For me, it's the game plan before we've become desperate that is confounding me.
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  12. Skitzo

    Skitzo Well-Known Member

    Think his point is if the player actually scored those chances they style would seem better, and for all the talk of creating nothing we are missing a lot of fairly easy chances.

    Lets face it we need an early goal, when we were flying under Puel we scored early and that made everything else click and easier
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  13. bloo

    bloo Active Member

    Point taken Skitzo.

  14. artic fox

    artic fox Member

    Can l ask,do you feel he should have come straight back into the Team after his injury? Is it a case of the old dog (Wes) teaching the pup (Harry) all the tricks he has in his repitoire ? .Not having a go at Wes just trying to make sense of Puel's mindset!
  15. popillius

    popillius Well-Known Member

    Did you read my post? I said in it very clearly that I would have kept Dragovic in. That still doesn't mean that I think Morgan's return to the side has been disastrous, it hasn't. I'm far more concerned by the 'performances' of our midfielders than the return of Morgan.
  16. fitz

    fitz Well-Known Member

    Would be interesting to see if he will reverse his tactics. Try and score a few first then **** about with the ball for the rest of the match. More likely to win that way I reckon.
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  17. Ike O'Noclassed

    Ike O'Noclassed Well-Known Member

    Are you saying that Puel should have a preseason before we rush to a judgement?
  18. Brown Nose

    Brown Nose Well-Known Member

    You'll probably take this as a compliment David, but you're living in the past.

    Football has changed. Football management isn't the same any more. You improve the side quickly or you get the sack. It's that simple.

    There have been multiple examples at our club where it has been obvious very early on that the manager wasn't the right man for the job. Almost always, we've given them more time than they've merited to prove their incompetence. This time is wasted. Half a season is plenty.

    Our owners make a change pretty quickly and I have the utmost respect for their approach. The only issue I have is that they aren't then ready with a replacement.
  19. Blue Maniac

    Blue Maniac Alzheimers sufferer

    :icon lol:
  20. alex

    alex Well-Known Member

    The lot of you, get a fucking grip.

    Since when did we become Arsenal TV?

    Some of you need to remember where we were not so long ago.

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