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...It seems to me our midfield is the problem, maybe a simple change in formation from 4-4-2 to 3-5-2 that way we can play Hughes in a centeral midfield role and allow him to get forward (which we played against charlton in the cup last year and his best game IMO) something like:

Rab
Paddy, Gerrbrand, Johansson
Stearman, Hughes, Wesoloski, Williams, Smith
Fryatt, MDV

or something similar so we're essentially packing the midfield, as thats where we're losing it.
 
leicester_til_i_die said:
...It seems to me our midfield is the problem, maybe a simple change in formation from 4-4-2 to 3-5-2 that way we can play Hughes in a centeral midfield role and allow him to get forward (which we played against charlton in the cup last year and his best game IMO) something like:

Rab
Paddy, Gerrbrand, Johansson
Stearman, Hughes, Wesoloski, Williams, Smith
Fryatt, MDV

or something similar so we're essentially packing the midfield, as thats where we're losing it.

But when we play MDV up front everyone resorts to the long ball, essentially cutting out the midfield
 
Over the course of the season so far its been the defence leaking goals, then when that stabilized the attack couldnt find the net so I guess the midfield might as well get a pasting now.

I see your point, but to be frank I think the problem(s) go deeper than just the midfield. I think the team's confidence is rock botton, their attitude is is dodgy, they can't motivate themselves, the management can't motivate them. They are in a downward spiral that they seem unable to break out of.

We simply don't look like we believe in ourselves anymore.
 
i know if we play MDV that happens wasn't saying have to play him just using him in the example, i would orefer to see Hume and fryatt myself.

i know the problems go deeper as well, but if we change it around like that get a draw show we can do it in a game then hopefully it will change.

just tyring to think of ways we can stay up with out sacking the manager!
 
Chuck T Masala said:
I see your point, but to be frank I think the problem(s) go deeper than just the midfield. I think the team's confidence is rock botton, their attitude is is dodgy, they can't motivate themselves, the management can't motivate them. They are in a downward spiral that they seem unable to break out of.

We simply don't look like we believe in ourselves anymore.

As I have said I fell off the fence on Saturday (but did not join the chants of Levein out) if we were a few places up the table I would be happy for CL to stay, my reason for falling is purely 'WE NEED A GOOD KICK UP THE ARSE' and could not agree more with your points Chuck. It has gone too far IMO for Levein to change it even though he must be trying, we lacked passion, fight and commitment on Saturday and the chant of a chap behind me of 'we want our Leicester back' were so true, were have they gone? I do not see that we can pick ourselves up enough to consistantly gain the points we need to stay up under CL, we might win one or two, but that is not good enough. If a new manager did come in short or long term this obviously does not mean we would survive, but as somebody has said surely it is better to change it a try rather than do nothing at all. I will sacrifice CL for staying up even though I believe in his long term plans!
 
Chuck T Masala said:
Over the course of the season so far its been the defence leaking goals, then when that stabilized the attack couldnt find the net so I guess the midfield might as well get a pasting now.

I see your point, but to be frank I think the problem(s) go deeper than just the midfield. I think the team's confidence is rock botton, their attitude is is dodgy, they can't motivate themselves, the management can't motivate them. They are in a downward spiral that they seem unable to break out of.

We simply don't look like we believe in ourselves anymore.
well said chuck....
 
I've thought about this, as from the few games I've seen this year Joey is clearly our best player, Hughes is supposedly good (although I havenl;t seen him much), everybody seems to love Williams for a reason that escapes me (yes, he's good for 20 minutes a game, but I don;t see him for the other 70 whenever I've been) and the young untried Wesolowski has been built up as the saviour of LCFC before he's played a senior competitive match.

So on this (albeit convoluted) basis, we have four strong central midfielders, with only two spots for them currently. At the minute we are playing either Sylla, who might be decent in a winning side (trying to find something good to say about him :) ), but is definitely not the man for a battle, and Smith who is uproven ahead of two of these, or playing one of the four central men wide, out of position.

Add this to the search for a left back, and there is a case for 3-5-2, with Nils, McCarthy and one other at the back.

Hughes looked good against Spurs, supporting MdV well when he was the lone frontman, and having two extra central midfielders will allow him to get forward easier without worrying about leaving a hole behind, same for Joey, and maybe Williams can be the strolling playmaker behind at home, which he seems to want, and bring in somebody else away who will give a bit more bite and better defensive cover alongside Joey who you;d try and get to play more conservative away.

Makes a lot of sense - we still need a wide right player though: maybe Hume out wide? He's certainly go tpace and skill from what I've seen, and this would take the pressure off his questionable career goal return and allow MdV and Fryatt up front: MdV to hold the ball up for Smith/Hume/Hughes bombing forward, and Fryatt to score goals (never seen him play, but at least he has a good goal ratio).

Only problem is we might be a bit exposed out wide at the back...
 
Jari Rantanen's Shorts said:
I've thought about this, as from the few games I've seen this year Joey is clearly our best player, Hughes is supposedly good (although I havenl;t seen him much), everybody seems to love Williams for a reason that escapes me (yes, he's good for 20 minutes a game, but I don;t see him for the other 70 whenever I've been) and the young untried Wesolowski has been built up as the saviour of LCFC before he's played a senior competitive match.

So on this (albeit convoluted) basis, we have four strong central midfielders, with only two spots for them currently. At the minute we are playing either Sylla, who might be decent in a winning side (trying to find something good to say about him :) ), but is definitely not the man for a battle, and Smith who is uproven ahead of two of these, or playing one of the four central men wide, out of position.

Add this to the search for a left back, and there is a case for 3-5-2, with Nils, McCarthy and one other at the back.

Hughes looked good against Spurs, supporting MdV well when he was the lone frontman, and having two extra central midfielders will allow him to get forward easier without worrying about leaving a hole behind, same for Joey, and maybe Williams can be the strolling playmaker behind at home, which he seems to want, and bring in somebody else away who will give a bit more bite and better defensive cover alongside Joey who you;d try and get to play more conservative away.

Makes a lot of sense - we still need a wide right player though: maybe Hume out wide? He's certainly go tpace and skill from what I've seen, and this would take the pressure off his questionable career goal return and allow MdV and Fryatt up front: MdV to hold the ball up for Smith/Hume/Hughes bombing forward, and Fryatt to score goals (never seen him play, but at least he has a good goal ratio).

Only problem is we might be a bit exposed out wide at the back...


no change there then :icon_roll
 
we are currently expossed wide especailly on the right due to if hughes plays there he drifts in the center to much.

in which case possibly stearman wide right for it as he has proven he's good at right back and shows signs that he can have a decent cross and gets forward well.
 
leicester_til_i_die said:
we are currently expossed wide especailly on the right due to if hughes plays there he drifts in the center to much.

in which case possibly stearman wide right for it as he has proven he's good at right back and shows signs that he can have a decent cross and gets forward well.

Stearman;s a central defender by trade though - right back is not too much of a stretch, but right wing back/midfield is a lot to ask, especially for a kid. He does look very promising though - I'd have him as the third DC - Stearman on the right of the three and Nils on the left, paddy in the middle: then the wide guys can both play FB and can hopefully cover a little better out wide
 
Jari Rantanen's Shorts said:
Stearman;s a central defender by trade though - right back is not too much of a stretch, but right wing back/midfield is a lot to ask, especially for a kid. He does look very promising though - I'd have him as the third DC - Stearman on the right of the three and Nils on the left, paddy in the middle: then the wide guys can both play FB and can hopefully cover a little better out wide

I felt he was often taking on a wing back role against Spurs - pretty effectively too.
 
Hector said:
I felt he was often taking on a wing back role against Spurs - pretty effectively too.

Yes, did well, and obviously got as far forward as he possibly could for Hammond's goal, as he headed the ball across from pretty much the goal line.

Generally he's looked very comfortable on the ball when I've seen him: good touch, can get out of trouble, crossing isn't bad, but his distribution isn;t always the best and I've not seen him taking people on. Don;t get me wrong, I think he's got a chance to be an excellent player, but IMHO he is defender who is good at getting forward occasionally rather than more of a midfield role.

But this is only my opinion: he could well play more of a midfield role and be a star...
 
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