Big Sam gets the big job - and loses it again

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36850753

Sam Allardyce will be named as the new England manager - with confirmation expected in the next 24 hours.

Allardyce will leave Sunderland after nine months at the Premier League club.

The 61-year-old replaces Roy Hodgson, who resigned after the surprise defeat by Iceland at this summer's Euro 2016 finals in France.

Allardyce, a former West Ham, Newcastle and Bolton boss, spoke to the Football Association last week and has been chosen ahead of Hull's Steve Bruce.

Both Sunderland and Hull had urged the FA to act quickly, with the new Premier League season less than a month away.

Allardyce was interviewed for the England job following Sven-Goran Eriksson's departure after the 2006 World Cup but Steve McClaren was appointed.

His first competitive game in charge is scheduled to be a World Cup qualifier in Slovakia on 4 September.

Bournemouth manager Eddie Howe and USA coach Jurgen Klinsmann had also been linked with the job this summer.

Allardyce will become the 15th permanent England boss as the pinnacle of a managerial career that started with Blackpool in 1994 and has taken in 467 Premier League games - behind only Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger and Harry Redknapp.
 
Unbelievably amusing

Could we possibly sink any lower
 
Tough choice between these two, how come Colin didn't get a mention?
 
Unbelievably amusing

Could we possibly sink any lower

Not sure what you mean, he's got an excellent record of getting absolutely shit teams over achieving.

In all seriousness I'm happy with this, he will pick players on merit rather than name and that is all I'm bothered about.
 
Not sure what you mean, he's got an excellent record of getting absolutely shit teams over achieving.

In all seriousness I'm happy with this, he will pick players on merit rather than name and that is all I'm bothered about.

Agreed. If they were dead set on an English manager (which it looks as though they were), then he is the best available (assuming Howe and Pearson have too much sense to want it).
 
I've argued many times with my flatmate about this one.

I think Allardyce is the perfect manager at this point. One thing you can always say about the England team is that they are frustrating because no-one seems to give a shit. Sam has an excellent reputation for coming in and booting this mindset right out of the window.

Even if we still don't play well, as least the players will appear to give a shit. Add that to the talent on display and we might have a winning combination. Why do all managers who get the job convince themselves that tappy-tappy is the way forward? Can't see Allardyce doing that.
 
I've argued many times with my flatmate about this one.

I think Allardyce is the perfect manager at this point. One thing you can always say about the England team is that they are frustrating because no-one seems to give a shit. Sam has an excellent reputation for coming in and booting this mindset right out of the window.

Even if we still don't play well, as least the players will appear to give a shit. Add that to the talent on display and we might have a winning combination. Why do all managers who get the job convince themselves that tappy-tappy is the way forward? Can't see Allardyce doing that.

Problem is you can't really do that at international level where you only get together every few months.
Plus there's the other problem...not one of the big name big club divas will listen to one single word Allardyce says.Because they'll consider him beneath them.Forgetting that not one of them has achieved anything in an England shirt ever.

If I was Sam I'd just treat the whole thing for what it is.A laugh.He's got nothing to lose after all so lets do what's obviously right.

Rooney stripped of the captaincy he never deserved in the first place...& dropped.We have at least 3 better strikers & 4 better midfielders so what the **** is the point of him exactly?

Danny D in,Wilshere told he gets a call up when he actually manages to play some league games & not before.

Stirling out of the squad until he can actually prove he's an international class footballer rather than a kid with a far too high opinion of himself & a ludicruous price tag.

Pray to as many deities as possible that some English central defenders appear that are actually up to the level.
I think Cahill & Smalling are pretty much the only players to emerge with any credit for the simple reason that that's as good as they are.They didn't underperform,they're just not good enough.

On the whole though lets just forget it.It's been a joke for decades.We just watched the Euros won by a team that can't even win a match in 90 minutes.

Actual football starts next month.
 
..Plus there's the other problem...not one of the big name big club divas will listen to one single word Allardyce says.Because they'll consider him beneath them.Forgetting that not one of them has achieved anything in an England shirt ever...

But the thing is, with that attitude he won't be afraid to drop them and play others who might not be as good but will actually care and end up performing better.
 
Right choice. I just hope that he has the guts to do the job in the way it needs doing.
I think a lot of us are hoping that.
He comes across as a person that takes no cra_p.
Next squad will be interesting.
Be nice to see Drinks and Albrighton get call ups, I'm sure mark noble must be smiling at this appointment as well.
 
Reckon with fat Sam in charge we'll get an idea of who really picks the team. If it's lazy/injured ****s who appear in more adverts than they do league games then it's the FA.
 
His favourite footballer is a certain Mr Frank Worthington so he can't be all that bad! :cool:
 
Reckon with fat Sam in charge we'll get an idea of who really picks the team. If it's lazy/injured ****s who appear in more adverts than they do league games then it's the FA.
And now we even have one of our own at the F A The Chairman no less.
Looks like we're taking over gradually ;)
Greg Clarke nominated to succeed Greg Dyke as FA chairman - BBC Sport
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36867409
 
Actually think Big Sam could be exactly what England need right now - someon who understands you find a system which suits English players and doesn't just try to shoehorn all the big name players into an XI no matter how over-the-hill, out of form or injured they are.
 
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