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FIFA can take the morale high ground of a deadline is a deadline, if you start extending it by 15 seconds then what about the next 20 second. And now that it's public, other clubs starts throwing all kinds of objections if it was overturned.

It is simply just bad planning from us.
 
Personally I think we might have a good case.

a.) Does the term 'deadline' specifically refer to sending the papers out in time or FIFA receiving them in time.
and b.) even if it does apply to FIFA receiving them in time which is likely the case, if we can prove we sent them off in time we could probably make a fair case that we expect them to arrive in time and that once the email is sent - any delay during transit is an external matter.

What a special case...
 
Miles Away said:
This could get worse too, if Silvia feels litigious. Could open up all sorts of labour issues.
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It couldn't really. He is still being paid his wages so this doesn't affect his ability to earn money with his trade.

It'll piss him off but it had no influence on his ability to earn his crust.
 
Wow, I hope it's good drying weather where people are. Because there are a lot of sheets in the laundry this morning ;)

Nah, bad planning or bad luck, it amounts to the same. We don't know what happened and it doesn't matter that we don't. Reconcile yourselves to Silva being available in Jan.
 
If it is just the 14 seconds being reported, then I'm very surprised it was rejected and think our chances at appeal are good.

Unless seconds are specified in the rules, then there is a whole minute anyway (the clock would show 12:00 for 60 seconds) unless this has been considered and paperwork was received at 12:01:14.

There must either be steps to synchronize clocks, or some reasonable allowance should be made for differences.

Of course, if allowances were made, and we missed these by 14 seconds then the club really has no excuse, however as has been commented on there is great potential for a legal challenge, which, for the sake of 14 seconds I expect FIFA would sooner avoid.
 
Feriol said:
Unless seconds are specified in the rules, then there is a whole minute anyway (the clock would show 12:00 for 60 seconds) unless this has been considered and paperwork was received at 12:01:14.
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The deadline was the end of Thursday. As soon as the clock hit midnight, it was then Friday.

I think the only grounds for an appeal would be if the club could demonstrate that either the time on FIFA's server is wrong, or there was a problem with FIFA's transfer website.
 
I don't give a shit whether it was 14 seconds or 14 minutes. There were multiple arbitrary deadlines set which would count for feck all in a courtroom.

Vichai should send the lawyers in and embarrass the whole house of cards.

Anyway, this is in the same context of when Arsenal signed Arshavin and they hadn't even begun talking until many hours after the deadline passed.

Threaten them, they'll back down, everybody's happy.
 
popillius said:
It couldn't really. He is still being paid his wages so this doesn't affect his ability to earn money with his trade.

It'll piss him off but it had no influence on his ability to earn his crust.
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It does though. He should be rounding into his best form, he's at an age where he could have one more decent move and now, instead of playing he's going to be sitting on his arse. Also makes it more difficult for him to break into the side. To suggest this doesn't impact his career is naive.

Not to mention bonuses, performance fees, that will be lost.
 
It has no impact on his ability to earn the agreed salary stipulated in his contract. The suggestion that waiting another 18 or so weeks before appearing will have a massively detrimental effect on his career as a whole wouldn't be entertained by any court.

I have a lot of experience with plenty of trade restriction cases - this case wouldn't make it past a decent solicitor's waste paper basket.
 
Miles Away said:
It does though. He should be rounding into his best form, he's at an age where he could have one more decent move and now, instead of playing he's going to be sitting on his arse. Also makes it more difficult for him to break into the side. To suggest this doesn't impact his career is naive.

Not to mention bonuses, performance fees, that will be lost.
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And in a World Cup year, with places in the squad of a 'there or thereabouts' nation up for grabs

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Couldn't we make it a loan deal, then convert to full deal in January. What a pickle. So very very Leicester isn't it?
 
As I said earlier I was able to obtain a judgment in a case where a Defendant (who never had a case to be fair) was 2 minutes late in filing. A deadline is a deadline. I have also read a case where an employment tribunal rejected a claim file 4 seconds late. There have to be very good reasons for relief from sanction (e.g. Their system was down).

What is the wording of the rule for filing in this case? If it is an obligation to file by a specified time it wouldn't matter when we sent it. The material consideration would be the time when the papers were received and courts tend to say that it is the sending party's responsibility to make sure delivery occurs before the deadline.

Doesn't bode well but hopefully common sense will prevail.
 
Joe_Fox said:
Couldn't we make it a loan deal, then convert to full deal in January. What a pickle. So very very Leicester isn't it?
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no because the same deadline applied for loans. Also we can't take a loan over a player we have bought. The issue isn't really whether we have contractual obligation to him, it is that we have failed to register what we had to register in time to allow him to play.
 
If this rejection stands it is clearly going to be the death knell of the last minute deadline day deal, especially inter-nation transfers.

No club in future is going to risk this happening. Too much money at stake.

No bad thing.
 
Someone else should ask if we can loan him, maybe asking again will change the answer from "NO, FOR THE JILLIONTH TIME THE ****ING DEADLINE HAS PASSED, THAT'S WHY THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU CRETIN" to "yeah, that'll work".
 
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