General Election June 8th

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If the Tories get their majority it'll be the most vivid example of turkeys voting for Christmas I've ever seen.

I voted Tory in the last two elections but there's no escaping that the stats don't lie and their performance on almost all measures, particularly economic ones has been utterly shite.

Add into the equation Theresa May, who appears to be both wholly incompetent and viciously malicious and I can't vote for them this time.

As much as I dislike socialism I think 5 years of Corbyn would take us back to a more reasonable centre ground, after which a more centrist Tory party can take over again.

Can't quite believe it but I'm voting for Corbyn.

But you've never liked women have you Moosey?
 
If the Tories get their majority it'll be the most vivid example of turkeys voting for Christmas I've ever seen.

I voted Tory in the last two elections but there's no escaping that the stats don't lie and their performance on almost all measures, particularly economic ones has been utterly shite.

Add into the equation Theresa May, who appears to be both wholly incompetent and viciously malicious and I can't vote for them this time.

As much as I dislike socialism I think 5 years of Corbyn would take us back to a more reasonable centre ground, after which a more centrist Tory party can take over again.

Can't quite believe it but I'm voting for Corbyn.

I'm with you completely. I also voted Tory in the last two but just can't do it this time. And likewise I can't believe I'm going to be voting for Corbyn either.
 
Has anyone had a candidate in their constituency knock on their door? Apart from when I was at Uni in Loughborough, I've never had one do it. I'm not sure what I'd ask them, but it still surprises me that it hasn't happened.
Tory Boy comes to our door because he smugly thinks everybody in the village wants to give him a beer or a titwank.

Well, he used to. He's not been this time. He's either taken on board the discussion we had or he was disappointed with my man breasts.

The Labour candidate can't afford the petrol, the Lib Dem can't work a satnav, the Green can't get here because the Tories killed public transport and the UKIP is stuck in a very gay illegal immigrant traffic jam.
 
Has anyone had a candidate in their constituency knock on their door? Apart from when I was at Uni in Loughborough, I've never had one do it. I'm not sure what I'd ask them, but it still surprises me that it hasn't happened.

Sexy Cecil, our member for Parliament came knocking at the door one year. My brother and I were working on a car in the driveway, Sexy Cecil asked who we were voting for, when the reply was "not you," Sexy Cecil asked who was getting our vote. Sexy Cecil was baffled by the answer but then went on his merry way, only to stop at the end of the drive, he turned round, smiled and said "very good." Sexy Cecil had just seen the name Roger Bradley on the Estate Agents board on the house opposite.
 
Tory Boy comes to our door because he smugly thinks everybody in the village wants to give him a beer or a titwank.

Well, he used to. He's not been this time. He's either taken on board the discussion we had or he was disappointed with my man breasts.

The Labour candidate can't afford the petrol, the Lib Dem can't work a satnav, the Green can't get here because the Tories killed public transport and the UKIP is stuck in a very gay illegal immigrant traffic jam.

Sexy Cecil, our member for Parliament came knocking at the door one year. My brother and I were working on a car in the driveway, Sexy Cecil asked who we were voting for, when the reply was "not you," Sexy Cecil asked who was getting our vote. Sexy Cecil was baffled by the answer but then went on his merry way, only to stop at the end of the drive, he turned round, smiled and said "very good." Sexy Cecil had just seen the name Roger Bradley on the Estate Agents board on the house opposite.

In 1997 I was living in Loughborough and the newly created Charnwood seat meant that there was a change to the boundary, so maybe that's why we had 1 or 2 people round.
In 2001 I was living in central Nottingham, didn't see anybody.
In 2005 I was living in Queniborough, didn't see anybody.
In 2010 I was living in Melton, didn't see anybody.
In 2015 I was living in Melton, didn't see anybody.
So far, with the election 2 days away, I haven't seen anybody yet this year.

I can kind of get why, since I moved back to Melton, I haven't seen our resident Tory MP, as it's not even worth him bothering to put the effort in. He knows he's going to win, so presumably can't see the point in wasting his time. It surprises me, though, that none of the other candidates have ever knocked on the door. I realise that the same assumption could be made, that they know they're not going to win, so why bother, but am I wrong in thinking that at least one of them might have tried?
 
She is doing Corbyn no favours at all. He'd do himself a massive favour if he came out and said that she wouldn't be part of his cabinet if he came into power.

Taken "ill" so won't be on the Woman's Hour GE special today either. Though I don't bother overmuch about mis speaks, it's actually her numerical illiteracy (from someone with decidedly unprogressive views and deeds on education) that gets my goat.

Sitting here in safe Tory Charnwood - when the election was called, our MPs WWW site hadn't been updated since he was adopted as candidate in 2014 surely the modern definition of a Rotten Borough - so my decision on who to waste my vote on came down to the Party who'll put the Brexit deal to a referendum - LibDems for me*

*That''s more because I want the GBP to take responsibility for the Brexit shambles, rather than any expectations of reversing the decision.
 
It bewilders me why we voted against proportional representation a few years back.

Our current system is so undemocratic.

Probably because democracy leads to procrastination and results in doing nothing when something needs doing.
 
She is doing Corbyn no favours at all. He'd do himself a massive favour if he came out and said that she wouldn't be part of his cabinet if he came into power.

But that would be a lie. She will be a chief component of any cabinet.
 
But that would be a lie. She will be a chief component of any cabinet.

Isn't lying part of the job description though?
 
It bewilders me why we voted against proportional representation a few years back.

Our current system is so undemocratic.

Tradition.

The ultimate curse of civilisation.

Our electoral system is perfectly designed for the 2 party system of 1870. So we keep it.

The US is even worse. They still actually have a 2 party system so you'd think it'd be simple really. But oh no...let's have some arcane bollocks that makes it possible to get more votes than your opponent but still lose.

You'd almost think that politicians weren't big fans of democracy wouldn't you?

Still...none of this will prevent Thursdays winner from claiming to have a ' mandate ' despite getting nowhere near even 50% of the vote.

Same as leaving the EU is " the will of the British people " despite the fact that if a few people hadn't had a hangover on polling day or not found something better to do or just not been so complacent the result might have gone the other way.
 
Tradition.

The ultimate curse of civilisation.

Our electoral system is perfectly designed for the 2 party system of 1870. So we keep it.

The US is even worse. They still actually have a 2 party system so you'd think it'd be simple really. But oh no...let's have some arcane bollocks that makes it possible to get more votes than your opponent but still lose.

You'd almost think that politicians weren't big fans of democracy wouldn't you?

Still...none of this will prevent Thursdays winner from claiming to have a ' mandate ' despite getting nowhere near even 50% of the vote.

Same as leaving the EU is " the will of the British people " despite the fact that if a few people hadn't had a hangover on polling day or not found something better to do or just not been so complacent the result might have gone the other way.

If only the European parliament had proportional representation.
 
Not long to polling day

It's the final countdown
 
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1Leicester4697
2Ipswich4696
3Leeds Utd4690
4Southampton4687
5West Brom4675
6Norwich City4673
7Hull City4670
8Middlesbro4669
9Coventry City4664
10Preston 4663
11Bristol City4662
12Cardiff City4662
13Millwall4659
14Swansea City4657
15Watford4656
16Sunderland4656
17Stoke City4656
18QPR4656
19Blackburn 4653
20Sheffield W4653
21Plymouth 4651
22Birmingham4650
23Huddersfield4645
24Rotherham Utd4627
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