Arsenal

[Scarby]

it was mentioned on MOTD, and i will bring it up here!

Arsenals team against Boro was:
Lehmann, Eboue, Toure, Djourou, Gallas, Hleb, Fabregas, Silva (Rosicky 69), Ljungberg (Julio Baptista 69), Van Persie (Adebayor 69), Henry.
Subs Not Used: Almunia, Flamini.

you may think so what, however not one British player is in that team! i believe this is a disgrace and with Ashely Cole buggering off to cheatsea, the chances of a British lad playing seems very low!

IMO there should be a cap on the number of foreign nationals playing for a team. Cause have them in the squad but there should be a limit of say 4/5 players in a squad of 16 on a matchday.

what do you think? or dont you care?

 

[weluvulesta]

I dont care! It is not a disgrace, just because we are in an english league, doesn't mean that every team in the english leauge has to have an english player. Thats madness! Managers choose their teams based on how good the players are...not the players' nationalities.

 

[CM]

I agree ScarboroughFox, It is a disgrace. Football Manager experience tells me that other leagues in Europe have a restriction on non-EU players in a squad and I see no reason why we can't do the same. I don't think its possible to put a cap on other european citizens though (Kolpak).

If nothing else there should be an obligation on the part of the team to play English players, so that the fans can relate with the team. There is nothing better than cheering local lads on instead of Thierry, Cesc or Mathieu.

I suppose the argument that Wenger wants the best players is credible but they are hardly packing their team with Galactigos are they? Of that team I wouldn't really say that Djourou, Eboue, Hleb, Ljungberg, Van Persie or Adebayor are that special.

 

[Boy Genius]

If they have EEC status then they can play, the restriction is on the amount of non EEC players and I think Arsenal have abided by that rule

 

[bocadillo]

you may think so what, however not one British player is in that team! i believe this is a disgrace

It's happened before. Why are you bringing it up now?

In MON's era, City fielded players from at least 10 different countries, plus an Englishman who played for Turkey.

 

[Scarby]

It's happened before. Why are you bringing it up now?

In MON's era, City fielded players from at least 10 different countries, plus an Englishman who played for Turkey.

not at everyone time, plus most were British!! Izzet was born in London so was English but a Turkish national.

Yes it has happened before, and i have brought it up before, i just think its a shame that kids today have foreign players they idolise, not like my first city games when Franz Carr, Sticks, Mark Blake, Steve Walsh ran the field.

Plus its a site for debate thats why im bringing up again!

 

[bocadillo]

not at everyone time, plus most were British!! Izzet was born in London so was English but a Turkish national.

Yes it has happened before, and i have brought it up before, i just think its a shame that kids today have foreign players they idolise, not like my first city games when Franz Carr, Sticks, Mark Blake, Steve Walsh ran the field.

Plus its a site for debate thats why im bringing up again!

USA, Greece, Jamaica, France, Iceland, Sweden. That's 6 non-British. And even your Franz Carr had a foreign name!! :icon_wink

As others have already said, there's not much we can do about the EU players that have come into the game. Many of the non-Europeans were initially imported because they were cheaper to maintain than home-grown players.

It is all part of the way that football has gone. Would you exclude foreign money as well as foreign players? And of course it is a forum for debate - just wondered why now - and why you picked on Arsenal. Without the foreigners, British football would be a very different place. the Premier League would not have grown into the competition it is. Match of the Day wouldn't provide the entertainment it does - not that I ever seem to get hoem in time to see it.

Global game or Little Englanders? Whatever we think , the choice isn't ours to make.

 

[Scarby]

USA, Greece, Jamaica, France, Iceland, Sweden. That's 6 non-British. And even your Franz Carr had a foreign name!! :icon_wink

As others have already said, there's not much we can do about the EU players that have come into the game. Many of the non-Europeans were initially imported because they were cheaper to maintain than home-grown players.

It is all part of the way that football has gone. Would you exclude foreign money as well as foreign players? And of course it is a forum for debate - just wondered why now - and why you picked on Arsenal. Without the foreigners, British football would be a very different place. the Premier League would not have grown into the competition it is. Match of the Day wouldn't provide the entertainment it does - not that I ever seem to get hoem in time to see it.

Global game or Little Englanders? Whatever we think , the choice isn't ours to make.

Like i said we never had every player we fielded including the bench non-British! Arsenal did yesterday!

IMO clubs should be pumping more money into raising home grown talent rather than bringing it in from aboard! Whats the point of encouraging grass roots football when the big clubs would rather bring in foreigners.

its a shame thats all

 

[joe501]

Theo Walcott will be in the team soon

 

[Hazzman]

I have actually said I want Man U to win the title due to them having more British players.

 

[highland fox]

it was mentioned on MOTD, and i will bring it up here!

Arsenals team against Boro was:
Lehmann, Eboue, Toure, Djourou, Gallas, Hleb, Fabregas, Silva (Rosicky 69), Ljungberg (Julio Baptista 69), Van Persie (Adebayor 69), Henry.
Subs Not Used: Almunia, Flamini.

you may think so what, however not one British player is in that team! i believe this is a disgrace and with Ashely Cole buggering off to cheatsea, the chances of a British lad playing seems very low!

IMO there should be a cap on the number of foreign nationals playing for a team. Cause have them in the squad but there should be a limit of say 4/5 players in a squad of 16 on a matchday.

what do you think? or dont you care?

Its part of Fotball today and doesnt fecking matter.any excuse to have a pop at Arsenal:icon_roll

 

[highland fox]

USA, Greece, Jamaica, France, Iceland, Sweden. That's 6 non-British. And even your Franz Carr had a foreign name!! :icon_wink

As others have already said, there's not much we can do about the EU players that have come into the game. Many of the non-Europeans were initially imported because they were cheaper to maintain than home-grown players.

It is all part of the way that football has gone. Would you exclude foreign money as well as foreign players? And of course it is a forum for debate - just wondered why now - and why you picked on Arsenal. Without the foreigners, British football would be a very different place. the Premier League would not have grown into the competition it is. Match of the Day wouldn't provide the entertainment it does - not that I ever seem to get hoem in time to see it.

Global game or Little Englanders? Whatever we think , the choice isn't ours to make.

Spot on Boc..spot on

 

[MHS]

There is no rule limiting teams to a certain amount of non-British players, and until there is, the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal will continue to sign foreign players.

 

[Hazzman]

There is no rule limiting teams to a certain amount of non-British players, and until there is, the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal will continue to sign foreign players.

You cant restrict due to EU rules.

Its been touted in Speedway, where 18 Brits ply their trade in the top division when there is currently 77 places. Its illegal to deny someone who has an EU passport to work here.

I'm going to watch some French football now, Marseille v PSG, always a tasty affair.

 

[Brauny Blue]

Imo i couldn't care less where they come from. Any player outside of Leicestershire that plays for Leicester does not have any real feelings for the city or the region, but if they stay here long enough like Steve Walsh they will develop a love of the club and not the region. There are very few home based players playing for their local teams at the highest level of football. If they come from Turkey or London they are all outsiders imo.

 

[Hector]

It has long been accepted that football teams are cosmoplotian, with many, even a majority, from abroad - and I don't think you should legislate against it.

However, for a team (+subs) to be completely devoid of British players is IMO an extreme which reflects badly on the attitude of the management team. It is a snub to British football, and very bad PR.

 

[Han]

to be fair to managers that buy foreign players, it's a heck of a lot cheaper!

Carrick - 18.5 mil
Rooney - 27 mil
Wright-Phillips - 21 mil
Ferdinand - 29 mil
walcott - 12 mil
Owen - 17 mil
can't think of others off the top of my head

When you can buy Rosicky for £6mil there's no point spending 3 times as much for someone just as good who is english.

 

[Lboro fox]

to be fair to managers that buy foreign players, it's a heck of a lot cheaper!

Carrick - 18.5 mil
Rooney - 27 mil
Wright-Phillips - 21 mil
Ferdinand - 29 mil
walcott - 12 mil
Owen - 17 mil
can't think of others off the top of my head

When you can buy Rosicky for £6mil there's no point spending 3 times as much for someone just as good who is english.

Thats more to do with the fact that the players were signed from english clubs more than the fact that they are english. If rosicky had made a £6 million transfer to say, Everton last season. Arsenal would be paying in excess of £10-12 million if he had a good season for them.

 

[Han]

Thats more to do with the fact that the players were signed from english clubs more than the fact that they are english. If rosicky had made a £6 million transfer to say, Everton last season. Arsenal would be paying in excess of £10-12 million if he had a good season for them.

owen hargreaves would still have cost in the region of 15 million if man bought him imo. not much of a saving compared to carrick

where else can you buy english players?

 

[CM]

Rosicky isn't a true example though, the club he was from were in desperate financial trouble. They were once offered over 30m for him!

I don't particulary think the transfer market is that unbalanced from country to country, you see top teams in Italy and Spain paying absurd amounts of money for players too. Ramos went to Real Madrid for 20m, Cassano to Roma for about the same, as did Joaquin to Valencia.

I think the top English clubs are guilty of not taking more risks in the transfer market. They would rather wait for a player to prove they are premiership quality at another club before making an offer.

I mean it was only 18 months ago that Carrick left West Ham for 2.5m! Bent scored a hat full of goals last season and was only 3m. Dawson is in the England squad and was 3m. Robinson was only 1.5m!