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homer237

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Hi guys, I could do with some advice. First the situation:

During the West Ham United Home match on Saturday I along with my brother were ejected from the stadium at half time. While we were going down to the concourses the "Danger Team" grabbed us and using Arm locks and wrist locks escorted us outside the stadium and round to the detention center situated in the North Stand. Eventually we were told why, and their reason was that we were persistently standing throughout the match and ignored numerous verbal requests to sit down as well as hand gestures.

We sit on the back row of Block F1 in the Kop, we were standing now and again as were many, but mainly we were leaning against the back of our seat, which we were told was fine last season, so long as we were not standing directly.

Not once was I told to sit down, my brother did notice a hand gesture at one point and so leaned against the wall which seemed to satisfy the steward waving at him, as no further communication took place between us or any LCFC staff.

We were left outside the stadium stunned, we started to walk away and wait for friends in a local pub to watch the full time scores come through, as we looked back at the stadium almost every person sitting in the North Stand and Every supporter in the West Ham supporter’s area was standing.

We decided to send a complaint letter in to the Health and Safety Manager, Mr Kevin Barclay, as we clearly felt that we had both been very harshly dealt with. In the letter we accepted that safety was the most important aspect of the football stadium and that we were left feeling extremely humiliated by this incident not only because we were not fully aware of the reason why we were being escorted out but also furious that false allegations had been made by a Safety Steward to the club and the Police that we were verbally told on numerous occasions to remain seated.

This letter was also forwarded onto Customer relationship manager, Peter Jones, and Ian Bason at the Foxes Trust.

Today we received a letter from Mr Kevin Barclay, I will quote parts of the letter he sent to me, some of it is needless typing indicating where ground regulations are situated etc etc.

I write with reference to your ejection from the Walkers Stadium during the Coca Cola Championship fixture with West Ham United on Saturday 7th August 2004 for persistent standing within seated sections of the stadium. Your correspondence alleges that Safety Steward number *** failed to communicate the breach of Ground of Regulations to yourself and companion. Furthermore your also indicate in your letter that Safety staff would allow semi standing in seating sections of the South Stand and Visiting supporters were penalised for persistent standing.

In order to answer your communication I have taken time to interview members of the Safety Team, cctv operatives and Public. To which I may conclude that yourself and colleague persistently stood throughout the aforementioned fixture after being instructed verbally and also hand gestured to sit down by safety steward number ***.

He ended with this:

Leicester City Football Club will no tolerate breach of Ground regulations and we are therefore banning you from attending any Coca Cola Championship/Cup football matches until September 20th 2004.

Failure to comply with this directive will inevitably meet with further action.

I am not denying at any point that at times I was standing, I am not denying that during the whole first half I was leaning against my seat. But this letter is basically calling me and my brother a liar, I am not a liar! I have never been involved in trouble or have never been ejected before. I have several witnesses who sit around me who can confirm that I wasn’t told anything by any LCFC staff. I used to be a lifeguard and it is almost the same situation when a kid does a bomb dive or stands on floats in a pool, we give them 3 warnings, there may be regulations put around the pool to warn people of how to behave but you give the benefit of doubt and give them 3 warnings. We were not given one warning, nothing.

Considering the thousands we have pumped into this club, we both have a season ticket, both went to all home and away games last year, and to be treated this way by the club I love basically disgusts me.

I really do not know where to turn now, this is beyond ridiculous, beyond comprehension on my side. I would really appreciate any advice that people could give me, if there is any chance the foxes trust could get involved with this I would be so grateful, as they have not yet returned my letter.

Also if anybody else has similar situations I would also love to hear from you.

Thanks for reading, I know I blabbered slightly.

homer237
 
first of all , homer , i can sympathise with your predicament. But unfortunately i cant offer you any advice, only support.
i myself have been ejected on numerous occasions from both filbert street and several away games. At the walkers stadium , i have been threatened with ejection for behavior that i would consider to be normal at a football match.
My situation was the rediculous no smoking while the game is on unless you smoke in the concourse. to be told that as the half time whistle has gone that can no longer finish my ciggy in the concourse and must go back into the stand....WHAT UTTER BOLLOX.....
ive been watching football for over 30 years, and have been to 60+ grounds. and most of them , i have had a great time .Yes ive been able to "let my hair down", have a good singsong , do the conger :shock: jump around in a demented fashion when weve scored. used hand gestures and vocals in banter with the opposition supporters. smoked a shit load of ciggies , whilst biting my nails as City looked less likely to hold onto a lead, and played pretty shite toward the end of a match..(it wasnt just last season). On the occasion , yes , i admit i got kinda carried away a bit and have been removed from the ground, but in general, along with thousands of fellow city fans i had an incident free match....but hey, what ive just described is how football matches have been since time began.

Today, the politically correct , liberal middle class soft tony blair sha88ing numskulls are rife everywhere, and they determine how we must all act.
because they live in a world of being armchair man united supporters ..oops sorry , chelsea seem to be the popular trend at the moment, and these people have never been to a real football match , know nothing about the history of the game, and care even less, they sit in their little offices and dream up new regulations to impose on us , so that when they eventually decide to take their glory-hunting offspring to a game , all they will see are politically correct and oppressed spectators.

you may feel that ive just typed a load of drivvel. but stop and think about it. the liberal do-gooder brigade are everywhere, infultrating every institution, and in many cases theyre in important places of power..mentioning no names, i guarantee that somewhere upstairs in the city bourd room and in the FA hq at soho square, these people are quietly plotting another way to ruin our game for their own ideals..and these people DONT CARE LESS ABOUT YOU......
UP THE CITY
 
I suggest you write to the Leicester Mercury. I also suggest that you phone the cluband ask to speak to Tim Davis (pretend to be an ajent if you have to to make your point) if no luck there try again the next day with Paul Mace. If there is once again no luck I suiggest going down to teh ground on a weekday, and asking to see either this guy whos sent you an e-mail or Tim Davis/ Paul Mace!

If that doesn't succeed take legal adviceon the matter ( followed by calling some type of clamis direct company). If that doesn't work as you leave the ground after meeting Tim Davis, find a paving stone that is slightly wobbley and do a Di-Canio dive (you might want a witness) make it look good for CCTV then phone up the National accident helpline!!

Quite frankly I think its a discrase! When I was 7 I used to get told off for standing on my seat (back at Filbo) which was right at the back of the supporters club end. its just the political corecttness to the extreme type thing.

Those stewerds just let the 'power' go to their heads!
 
Seems like you've had a bit of a ruff time over this, iv got no advice for you unfortunatley but il i can do is support a fellow city fan, you know who i blame ........ Tony "the dickhead" Blair. most cerctainly got nothing to do with him but i always like to blame him anyway.

UP THE CITY!!!
 
Fullest sympathies - i must state that the stewards on Saturday were as bad as we've ever been forced to suffer at LCFC. I have very little respect for them as it is, but hearing stories like this (and they are getting more frequent) it's becoming more apparent that the club aren't willing to help appease the problems. I would recommend you take your grievance to the highest level at the club that you can, and would also ask that you keep us all updated with your plight.
 
Many sympathies mate

I'm sure there are two sides to every story, but from your description it sounds like you were shabbily treated. Perhaps you were seen as an easy target by some steward who was too scared to deal with someone who was really causing trouble. Maybe they have targets, and have to eject soemone to make themselves look good to Barclay. I don't know

What I do know is that there should be some sort of appeal process in place for someone in your position. I don't know if you were naughty or not and I don't really care.

What I do care about is that you are given the opportunity to present your case, and your side of the story in better way than this. Everyone has the right to a fair hearing, and you have not been given that in this instance.

I don't know the process, but the FT should and I would hope they would respond to your post, or letter, sometime today. I am interested to know if there is a procedure that allows you to put your side of the story to someone reasonable.

You have every fan's support in this. If you behave badly at a football ground, then fair enough, you deserve what you get. But if you are "convicted" on the word of a steward alone then that is patently not fair and you should be given the opportunity to have it considered by someone else.

Keep us posted on what happnes
 
homer said:
Many sympathies mate

I'm sure there are two sides to every story, but from your description it sounds like you were shabbily treated. Perhaps you were seen as an easy target by some steward who was too scared to deal with someone who was really causing trouble. Maybe they have targets, and have to eject soemone to make themselves look good to Barclay. I don't know

What I do know is that there should be some sort of appeal process in place for someone in your position. I don't know if you were naughty or not and I don't really care.

What I do care about is that you are given the opportunity to present your case, and your side of the story in better way than this. Everyone has the right to a fair hearing, and you have not been given that in this instance.

I don't know the process, but the FT should and I would hope they would respond to your post, or letter, sometime today. I am interested to know if there is a procedure that allows you to put your side of the story to someone reasonable.

You have every fan's support in this. If you behave badly at a football ground, then fair enough, you deserve what you get. But if you are "convicted" on the word of a steward alone then that is patently not fair and you should be given the opportunity to have it considered by someone else.

Keep us posted on what happnes

couldn't agree more. be interesting to see what the FT can do to help.
 
Fullest sympathies - i must state that the stewards on Saturday were as bad as we've ever been forced to suffer at LCFC. I have very little respect for them as it is, but hearing stories like this (and they are getting more frequent) it's becoming more apparent that the club aren't willing to help appease the problems. I would recommend you take your grievance to the highest level at the club that you can, and would also ask that you keep us all updated with your plight.
 
Fullest sympathies - i must state that the stewards on Saturday were as bad as we've ever been forced to suffer at LCFC. I have very little respect for them as it is, but hearing stories like this (and they are getting more frequent) it's becoming more apparent that the club aren't willing to help appease the problems. I would recommend you take your grievance to the highest level at the club that you can, and would also ask that you keep us all updated with your plight.
 
Homer 237, two words for you, POWER TRIP.

The stewards at the Walkers Stadium are among the biggest bunch of morons I have ever had the mispleasure to be "under control" of. I wouldn't trust them with a bottle of my own piss.

Once last season I went down for a pint at half time and finally got my hands on a pint with the match just about to restart. I had necked about half of it and politely asked a steward if I had to finish it before entering the stairwell. I could physically see his face light up. He said "Finish it now! You can't drink alcohol in the arena, finish it now or throw it in the bin". I was enraged, I felt like saying "You finish it dickhead" and pouring it all over his sour little head but knew that this was exactly what he wanted so instead I necked it all and burped in his face, immature I know but so so satisfying.

I think the best way to tolerate the unnecessary zero tolerance attitude these Neanderthalic poo munchers have is to basically comply with their requests. Sooner or later they will get bored and seek employment where they can flex their puny little muscles and get the power trip feeling they so desparately seek.

I feel for you homer 237 but just take it on the chin and believe in karma or something. The brainless cock shaver who caused you and your brother to be banned for a short period will get his comeuppance and hopefully find a dead rat up his arse one day.

Whatever you do, do not let this lessen your love for LCFC. It's the football that counts.

Joe_Fox
 
You two ruffians are a bloody joke not the City who try to make everyone safe and comfortable at the game.
You were caught being stupid so face up to it, don't bleat about it being unfair. Next time keep your arse on the seat and don't block the view of more respectable patrons.
 
bazzer said:
You two ruffians are a bloody joke not the City who try to make everyone safe and comfortable at the game.
You were caught being stupid so face up to it, don't bleat about it being unfair. Next time keep your arse on the seat and don't block the view of more respectable patrons.

Oh dear - judge and jury here! :(
 
homer237 im sorry to hear about your situation and i am disgusted by this action from the club. If they want to throw somebody out for standing then they have to throw everybody out.I can only suggest that you contact the club and appeal.If you require character references i would be happy to supply them, as for some of the other childish replies to this thread including the fake baz ..joe :roll: im embarrassed by their efforts.
 
lazzer said:
homer237 im sorry to hear about your situation and i am disgusted by this action from the club. If they want to throw somebody out for standing then they have to throw everybody out.I can only suggest that you contact the club and appeal.If you require character references i would be happy to supply them, as for some of the other childish replies to this thread including the fake baz ..joe :roll: im embarrassed by their efforts.

Marco, what the chuff are you on about?

My reply was heartfelt. Read it again, then have a word with yourself.

Tsk.
 
Quite funny that the only bits of trouble I have seen inside the Walkers have been:- Fighting in the corporate area against Portsmouth, Stewards causing problems fetching fans out of L1 and the Knob on the pitch which was again the fault of the stewards. In general City fans know how to behave, leave us alone.
 
bazzer said:
You two ruffians are a bloody joke not the City who try to make everyone safe and comfortable at the game.
You were caught being stupid so face up to it, don't bleat about it being unfair. Next time keep your arse on the seat and don't block the view of more respectable patrons.

I rarely post on here anymore but morons like you make my blood boil. 1, he said he was sitting on the back row. Now even 2 brain cell muppets like yourself could possibly work out that there will be no one except maybe the odd perched pigeon being obstructed by occasionally standing and cheering on his team.
2, does standing up really constitute to being hand cuffed like a hardend criminal and taken out of the ground. God help you if you think it does.
3, i would much rather be sat next to someone who showed a bit of passion for his/her club and stood up and cheerd their team on to victory than a "more respectable patron" like your good self anyday.

fook off and support f$*^st, we dont need"support" like yours
 
Greeting earthlings – here is my first post!

I’m pretty sure that if you ask for a copy of the CCTV footage with you in it they have to by law provide it to you – saw it on the Mark Thomas show once, he took a troop of Morris dancers into a MacDonald’s and then asked for the tape, which they gave him.

Just a thought.

p.s – you didn’t miss much!
 
The stewarding at this club is far from a joke, it's appauling. It's evident from this thread that there is no respect held for them. Because of the standards of stewarding we have, i expected to be warned numerous times at Derby about my behaviour, that wasn't the case, and the stewards were able to joke with us and even throw inflatable sheep back into the crowd when they went pitchside. THAT got my respect!

Now at the Pepsi Max challege, there were 9 people in my block, all of which were steated infront of me. Remaining seated throughout both games is difficult on the ole legs, so i stood and within about 20 seconds of stretching them - like everyone does at half time, i was being threatened with ejection from the stadium. I argued my case but the steward insisted i was breaking stadium rules and endangering the safety of myself and others (WTF?!). THAT does NOT get my respect. That day i was also warned about sitting on the back of my seat, being in the wrong concourse, and also using abusive language. JOKE!!

Good luck homer, i empathise with you, maybe your best bet would be just to serve your ban, the more you argue the worse it gets so it would seem.
 
lumberjack said:
bazzer said:
You two ruffians are a bloody joke not the City who try to make everyone safe and comfortable at the game.
You were caught being stupid so face up to it, don't bleat about it being unfair. Next time keep your arse on the seat and don't block the view of more respectable patrons.

I rarely post on here anymore but morons like you make my blood boil. 1, he said he was sitting on the back row. Now even 2 brain cell muppets like yourself could possibly work out that there will be no one except maybe the odd perched pigeon being obstructed by occasionally standing and cheering on his team.
2, does standing up really constitute to being hand cuffed like a hardend criminal and taken out of the ground. God help you if you think it does.
3, i would much rather be sat next to someone who showed a bit of passion for his/her club and stood up and cheerd their team on to victory than a "more respectable patron" like your good self anyday.

fook off and support f$*^st, we dont need"support" like yours

Is the back row of F1 at the top of the Kop.
We have only Homer to believe they were only standing up to sing hymns of praise.
You can mind your own business on how I support the team
And you sound like a very even tempered chap, blood boiling eh!
Mind your language too, and should you be emailing on your bosses time at work. Tara me duck.
 
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