City fans - the biggest problem

[MKFox]

I like Levein, I want him to be our manager

Not having a pop Silver but on what do you base that? I'm not calling for his head because he's manager of a shite team who don't seem to know how to win football matches despite it being their job. I'm sure CL is a right proper bloke, but why should I like him? I might do if he got our team winning, but just because he's our current custodian doesn't give him the automatic thumbs up..


Expectations too high boc? I'm trying to educate reality for everyone, I really am...

 

[Steven]

Football is about passion, emotion and opinion's and nobody should be chastised for displaying any of these, positive or negative. It is all part of the game.

I have seen a lot of bollocks written over the last few days and I have to say these are about the only two decent sentences I have seen in this time.

 

[Bilborough Fox]

I've got no problem with fans having a moan after the match, but I do object to fans going to the match and spending all match moaning about the team. Surely we go to the matches to support our team not run them down during. At least that's what I have done over the past fifty years, or am I odd because I don't. I travel with my son,daughter and grandson to every home match and a lot of away matches from the other side of Nott'm and we always go in a positive mind.

 

[1966]

Top thread and one which should every LCFC fan should read, think abaout and take part in.

For me I think our fans are generally worse than most, often totally unrealistic / lacking in common sense, who through their reactions at matches make our performances worse rather than better.

This is nothing new either I remember the treatment of Mark Bright many years ago, who produced the best debut I have ever seen, before going on to get destroyed by the faithfull because he was not as good as Gary Lineker. When he left us of course he went onto better things with teams who's fans supported him.

We have a choice to make - get behind the team on matchdays, support and help them, or continue to pile the pressure on the team / individuals to the point where they stop performing through fear.

Away from the match, on forums and radio, have a moan and gripe but be constructive otherwise you are no better than the infamous Andy from Long Eaton.

 

[webmaster]

I remember the treatment of Mark Bright many years ago, who produced the best debut I have ever seen, before going on to get destroyed by the faithfull because he was not as good as Gary Lineker.

I agree about the way he was hounded out of the club, but why do so many people think the Everton match was his debut (assuming that's the match you're thinking of)?

He played quite a few games the season before that famous match - mostly as substitute. His first match was a 3-2 defeat to Newcastle on the first day of the 84-85 season, he played in the same team as Smith and Lineker.

 

[DesertFox]

I agree about the way he was hounded out of the club, but why do so many people think the Everton match was his debut (assuming that's the match you're thinking of)?

He played quite a few games the season before that famous match - mostly as substitute. His first match was a 3-2 defeat to Newcastle on the first day of the 84-85 season, he played in the same team as Smith and Lineker.

I remeber the Everton game well (I was very young ). Two fantastic goals from Bright, which put Lineker in the shade - briefly. I was right behind one of them (sitting on/standing behind the little white wall at the front of the family enclosure) as it curled into the top corner in front of the kop.

Nostalgia - it ain't what it used to be, eh?

I think the big buzz at that game, apart from it being the first game of the season, against Everton who were champions (I think?), and it was Lineker's first game not in a Leicester shirt, was that Bright was going to be Lineker's replacement, and nobody thought he was up to it. He silenced the racist cynics for a while, but they eventually got their way and got him out. He wasn't exactly Lineker, but Mark Bright could have been a bloody good player for us for years to come, especially as we pretty soon turned shite for several years.

Boo boys... take note!

 

[bocadillo]

I agree about the way he was hounded out of the club, but why do so many people think the Everton match was his debut (assuming that's the match you're thinking of)?

He played quite a few games the season before that famous match - mostly as substitute. His first match was a 3-2 defeat to Newcastle on the first day of the 84-85 season, he played in the same team as Smith and Lineker.

This does seem to come up again and again - you are so right. I can only imagine that it was because it was the first time that he was out their *instead* of the boy Lineker. I think he had only started a couple of times the previous season with (probably) more than 10 games from the bench. The Everton game seemed as though it was the first time that he was there in his own right.

 

[Listy]

Reading round the other threads, I'm starting to think that the biggest problem that City have is their own fans.

Their expectations are too high - they don't get behind the team - they barrack individual players and prevent them playing to their potential - they want to get rid of the manager before he has had time to do what he was appointed for - they are not worthy of the name 'fans'.

The same problem worldwide I reckon. Our team here in Adelaide is unbeaten in the A league so far and are top of the league and people are still whinging about everything. Some people should just have their membership / season passes taken away from them

 

[Cate Fox]

Boo boys... take note!

Could be difficult, half of them can't read

 

[Yorkshire Vixen]

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[lazzer]

Could be difficult, half of them can't read

:icon_lol:

 

[glyn]

This does seem to come up again and again - you are so right. I can only imagine that it was because it was the first time that he was out their *instead* of the boy Lineker. I think he had only started a couple of times the previous season with (probably) more than 10 games from the bench. The Everton game seemed as though it was the first time that he was there in his own right.

I remember seeing the reserves stats in the programmes back in 84-85 and Brighty had scored shedloads!

 

[Feriol]

i think the problem for our fans is that we are in a run of disapointment. this is both too long, and not long enough... allow me too explain.

after the first poor season of this run, the team were sung from the field in that game against Man-U. i remember it well and i thought then ow great our fans were.

Last season fans were frustrated, but optimistic. even in jan/feb i remember some people still saying 'we can make the play-offs'

Now, again the indications are not too good, only this time, the optimism has gone, and they refuse to accept the reality.

There is nothing unusual about this, one bad season will be forgiven, two and frustration will be high. and Fans refuse to accept a third or more.

I Also say it is not long enough, because success is still fresh in the memory. if you have a few seasons at a certain level, the fans will eventually accept that the team has found its place. but that will take a while. Forrest fans still think they belong in the premiership. I also know a couple of Sheffield Wednesday fans that keep talking about how they should be in the Prem, and they won't settle for anything less. How long has it been for them?

I don't think this is a bad thing. Pressure is good if it drives the team to success, also the board know they can't just neglect the club and give themselves a pay rise, fans need to be pleased!

I would hate for Leicester to become (again) a team that is happy to dwell in the background. What we want to see is a football club that is doing everything it can to succeed. And fan pressure can help ensure that.

Would MON have been so succesfull if the fans hadn't put him under pressure? IMO no. the pressure drove him to become what he became, and build the team that he did.

Pressure is only a bad thing if you can't handle it, and Football isn't a job for people who can't!

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Top post Feriol, I agree with what you are saying, if you cast your mind back to the pre Brian Little era, we had suffered several seasons of bottom half or mid table finishes in what is now the championship, the fans did not necessarily believe this was "acceptable" but they had resigned themselves to the fact that at that given time with the resources available this was now the norm.

Then from the Little era onwards we had relative success, play off finals, promotion, relegation, play off final and promotion and then the real glory years under MON, this as Feriol rightly states has spoilt many supporters, especially those who were bought up under the O'Neill years.

We have to be paitent, we have to realise that even the big teams go through these cycles and we are no different, after MON left the inevitable was always going to happen, what shocked people IMO was the speed of our decline but that is football, it has happened to clubs like Forest, Leeds, Southampton, Ipswich etc so we are not on our own.

Whilst we should be proud of our achievements under MON, it should not become a millstone around our necks, we are Leicester City and whether that be in Europe, the Premiership, the Championship or even league 1 we must support the team with the same enthusiasm, because regardless of the competition this is our club and our city and that is something we should always be proud to support.