Contract Calamity Coming . . .

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Brown Nose

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January is fast approaching and it promises to be a very interesting transfer window. We need to do business because our squad is about to fall apart.

Traditionally, you don't allow players to go less than two years from an expiring contract. We've allowed most of the squad to get to this point. Whether it is due to our finances or incompetence, who knows for sure? As far as I can work out, we've only actually extended three contracts over the last year - Dewsbury-Hall, Vardy and Choudhury when he went on loan. Everyone else has drifted towards expiry.

The following list is of first team players who are out of contract in 2023 and 2024 - it may not be 100% accurate but it's the best information I could find.

2023 - Soyuncu, Perez, Mendy, Tielemans, Amartey, Evans

2024 - Ndidi, Maddison, Choudhury, Vardy, Vestergaard, Iheanacho, Albrighton, Praet, Bertrand, Thomas, Smithies

12 of the above list were included in the first team squad for our game this afternoon. Some are obviously surplus to requirements and we will want to move them on. However, can we afford to allow them all to decline in resale value or leave for nothing?

Maddison is a perfect example. You would imagine that we'd be looking for £60m+ for him in an ideal world. With 18 months remaining on his contract, there is no chance of this. In the summer, his value will have halved.
 

camberwell fox

Well-Known Member
January is fast approaching and it promises to be a very interesting transfer window. We need to do business because our squad is about to fall apart.

Traditionally, you don't allow players to go less than two years from an expiring contract. We've allowed most of the squad to get to this point. Whether it is due to our finances or incompetence, who knows for sure? As far as I can work out, we've only actually extended three contracts over the last year - Dewsbury-Hall, Vardy and Choudhury when he went on loan. Everyone else has drifted towards expiry.

The following list is of first team players who are out of contract in 2023 and 2024 - it may not be 100% accurate but it's the best information I could find.

2023 - Soyuncu, Perez, Mendy, Tielemans, Amartey, Evans

2024 - Ndidi, Maddison, Choudhury, Vardy, Vestergaard, Iheanacho, Albrighton, Praet, Bertrand, Thomas, Smithies

12 of the above list were included in the first team squad for our game this afternoon. Some are obviously surplus to requirements and we will want to move them on. However, can we afford to allow them all to decline in resale value or leave for nothing?

Maddison is a perfect example. You would imagine that we'd be looking for £60m+ for him in an ideal world. With 18 months remaining on his contract, there is no chance of this. In the summer, his value will have halved.
Glad you are looking at it in your usual cheerful manner.
 

Willlow

Well-Known Member
Youri we’ve clearly been trying to renew. Recent performances underline Amartey is a good squad player.

Maddison and Ndidi from 2024… the rest can go for me…
 

glyn

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And to be fair BN you’ve been banging on about how squad is too big for two years. And it’s not as if we haven’t tried to flog them….just at too high a price
 

Biffa Bacon

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Everything will be fine, Leicester spent £100m on a training ground and this will obviously mean that there is a huge amount of young talent ready to step up and boss the league
 

popillius

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Everything will be fine, Leicester spent £100m on a training ground and this will obviously mean that there is a huge amount of young talent ready to step up and boss the league
Why do folk keep banging on about this as if it was an awful thing to do? If clubs wish to grow they must improve their infrastructure. It is absolutely imperative.

I have no problem whatsoever with us spending money on this or on increasing the capacity of the ground and adding other business interests on the site. It is a perfectly viable and logical way to grow.

A lot of it is stemming from this nonsense about us having three pounds fifty in the bank and this is probably what is also fuelling the 'we're all doomed' horseshit about contracts. It's almost as if the same old bunch haven't learned their lesson yet.....
 

TommyK

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Bezu Fache Fox

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The concern is Madison and Youri. Take them out the side and we lose most of creativity.
Replacing assist and goalscorers is the hardest thing to do and we need two.

Chances of Madison signing a new deal at almost zero imo
The word on the street is that he will sign a new contract, with us.
 

Biffa Bacon

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Why do folk keep banging on about this as if it was an awful thing to do? If clubs wish to grow they must improve their infrastructure. It is absolutely imperative.

I have no problem whatsoever with us spending money on this or on increasing the capacity of the ground and adding other business interests on the site. It is a perfectly viable and logical way to grow.

A lot of it is stemming from this nonsense about us having three pounds fifty in the bank and this is probably what is also fuelling the 'we're all doomed' horseshit about contracts. It's almost as if the same old bunch haven't learned their lesson yet.....
Obviously the investment won't bear fruit for some time, my comment was sarcastic because I don't think that Leicester will collapse in the next few months, calm down dear
 

Blue Maniac

Alzheimers sufferer
2023 - Soyuncu, Perez, Mendy, Tielemans, Amartey, Evans
Söyüncü has a chance to play himself to a new contract. Whether he signs it is another matter. Pérez won’t get one; I suspect he’ll go back to Spain in January. Mendy surely won’t get another unexpected contract and will go (again) in the summer. Tielemans, if he has a brain and any ambition, has already started looking around. Let’s hope something catches his eye in January and he moves abroad. Amartey, I imagine, will renew, as will Evans.
2024 - Ndidi, Maddison, Choudhury, Vardy, Vestergaard, Iheanacho, Albrighton, Praet, Bertrand, Thomas, Smithies
Already resigned to Ndidi and Maddison leaving, preferably after this season. Iheanacho should stay but might not. Assume Choudhury, Vestergaard, Bertrand and probably Praet will be offloaded when possible. Smithies will leave at the end of his contract without playing a minute of football. Vardy will surely retire when his finishes. Thomas will re-sign and go out on loan.
 

Brown Nose

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And to be fair BN you’ve been banging on about how squad is too big for two years. And it’s not as if we haven’t tried to flog them….just at too high a price

The squad is far too big. That doesn't mean that players we've spent a lot of money on should be allowed to leave for low prices or free.

We've misjudged the market badly over the last couple of years. I think we've overpaid and undersold far too often. We're now in a poor situation and clubs will pick off players and not leave us with the income to replace them.

Our other failure is to pay players too high a wage. There are several that are staying put in full knowledge that they've got no chance of matching the salary elswehere that we're paying. That's more poor work from the club.

Because of all this, we can't afford to not consider offers for the likes of Tielemans, Maddison and Ndidi in January. We will not be spending 'new' money in the transfer market because our finances are a mess.

So we either let players run down contracts and replace them with kids or free transfers or we sell whilst we can. We haven't gone to the trouble we have in bringing in Martyn Glover for him to operate only in the free transfer market.

The points we've picked up recently are more likely to mean we allow players to move than not. We couldn't afford to let Tielemans go in January if we're in the bottom three. Now, a £15m offer would be very difficult to turn down. It really wouldn't be a surprise to see Maddison go in January too.

Pretending that things are fine doesn't mean that they are.
 

camberwell fox

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Making out things are worse than they is also not helpful.

We have always replaced well bar, perhaps Mahrez who is probably irreplaceable.

Centre Back is a good example. Look at the continuation we have had there versus the prices we have paid and funds generated.

We sold Maguire for £80m and bought Fofana for £30 million. We sold Fofana for £60 million and bought Faes.

Yes we have bought some duffers but doesn’t everyone? Overall our recruitment is brilliant, but we are always going to lose most players when north of £250k per week is wafted in front of us.

Maddison is a great example. I believe we are trying to realtain him but if he wants to go, it is difficult to keep him. In todays market he is north of £70 million.

He either signs or we sell him, it’s that simple.
Is he replaceable? It will be very difficult but the evidence of history suggests so.

I am happy for Youri (in his current situation) to run down his contract and leave on a free but I’m sure we are trying to avoid any repeat of this.

I not overly concerned by our current situation, we are once again investing wisely on players and even more wisely on infrastructure.
 

Brown Nose

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Making out things are worse than they is also not helpful.

We have always replaced well bar, perhaps Mahrez who is probably irreplaceable.

Centre Back is a good example. Look at the continuation we have had there versus the prices we have paid and funds generated.

We sold Maguire for £80m and bought Fofana for £30 million. We sold Fofana for £60 million and bought Faes.

Yes we have bought some duffers but doesn’t everyone? Overall our recruitment is brilliant, but we are always going to lose most players when north of £250k per week is wafted in front of us.

Maddison is a great example. I believe we are trying to realtain him but if he wants to go, it is difficult to keep him. In todays market he is north of £70 million.

He either signs or we sell him, it’s that simple.
Is he replaceable? It will be very difficult but the evidence of history suggests so.

I am happy for Youri (in his current situation) to run down his contract and leave on a free but I’m sure we are trying to avoid any repeat of this.

I not overly concerned by our current situation, we are once again investing wisely on players and even more wisely on infrastructure.

We'd surely take £40m for Maddison. It's just throwing money away if we don't grow up and accept where we are.
 

M17TT C

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I'd rather keep him for another 18 months than let him leave in Jan for £40m.

Same with Youri, albeit 12-months less.

£60m is **** all really and losing those 2 in Jan could cost us more than that if we went down.

Go for a walk BN.
 
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