Crossroads! Not the soap...

[Micky]

A very important decision will be taken at our club within the next few weeks. And no i'm not talking about Kevin Pressmans desire to star in the new leicester porn film! After mulling through the latest list of potential successors to the micky adams throne I have had to up the dosage. The list in my opinion contains a prefore of incompetent footballing idiots. A mere surface scan of the potential candidates emphasises the need for deep thought and consideration when choosing a successor.

My concern is that the leicester board will employ a 'name'. A Hoddle or a Robson (Bryan). Now don't get me wrong, these chaps were talented footballers, however, their management skills leave a small himalayan sized gap to be desired! -eh!? (Like the current link!) In order words they've been as useful as the proverbial chocolate lampshade.

I am also concerned by the potential employment of the 'He loves leicester through and through applicant'. Namely, a Mcallister, a Newell or a Walsh. Now these guys were great for our club but I don't think any of them could warrant the job based on their current CV's.

Personally, I'd like to see the 'He's done well with little to spend' applicant get the job. The chap who's toiled in the lower leagues in a cowshed having to wash the kit. The man with no name but with a work ethic that can be passed onto his team. A man with an appreciation for where he is, with a hunger and a desire to make a name for himself.

Dave Pennie, come on down!

 

[homer]

a prefore of incompetent footballing idiots

That would be a plethora

 

[Micky]

I tried...

 

[Brauny Blue]

crossroads

Micky wrote:

Personally, I'd like to see the 'He's done well with little to spend' applicant get the job

Dario Gradi, at least he would revamp the youth policy, and he likes his team to play decent football.

 

[Keep the Faith]

Re: crossroads

Micky wrote:

Personally, I'd like to see the 'He's done well with little to spend' applicant get the job

Dario Gradi, at least he would revamp the youth policy, and he likes his team to play decent football.

Good Shout Brauny, Dario would do a great job with the current crop of youngsters, and with a talented first team squad would no doubt get us playing fast flowing football. Also would start to build some long term foundations at the club, is well used to bringing youngsters through. Excellent coach as well.

 

[Brauny Blue]

crossroads

Spot on KTF
He never seems to get a mention for a higher profile team though. Which suprises me for the great job he's done at Crewe.

 

[Phil The Fox]

There must be a reason he's stayed there so long, and as you rightly say he never gets mentioned when 'bigger' jobs come up ... doesn't stop our board asking for permis to speak to him though does it

Btw ... isn't it a chocolate teapot, rather than a lampshade ...

 

[Brauny Blue]

Crossroads

Thought it was teacup

 

[MKFox]

chocolate fireguard....

 

[Micky]

There must be a reason he's stayed there so long, and as you rightly say he never gets mentioned when 'bigger' jobs come up ... doesn't stop our board asking for permis to speak to him though does it

Btw ... isn't it a chocolate teapot, rather than a lampshade ...

Well you heard it here first!

 

[Tony Elsby]

Re: crossroads

Micky wrote:

Personally, I'd like to see the 'He's done well with little to spend' applicant get the job

Dario Gradi, at least he would revamp the youth policy, and he likes his team to play decent football.

Good Shout Brauny, Dario would do a great job with the current crop of youngsters, and with a talented first team squad would no doubt get us playing fast flowing football. Also would start to build some long term foundations at the club, is well used to bringing youngsters through. Excellent coach as well.

Dario's one I hadn't thought of but I gather he was a great friend of a chap called Eric Worthington from Loughborough Colleges (as was), himself a top coach at the time.

Eric went on to work for the Australian FA as I remember but had nothing but the very highest of praise for Dario's abilities - and that was before he'd ever been heard of.

Isn't he on a 10-year rolling contract at Crewe though?
By the way, does anyone know where Eric ended up? He used to live at Woodhouse Eaves and have football matches in his garden with the likes of Shilts, Keith Weller and all.

 

[Dunc]

Do we really think that Dario Grady will walk from a job for life, at a club that he loves and where he can do no wrong, where he is highly regarded and leave all that and join a club that apparently accepts nothing but promotion this season, fans who will get on the managers back after 10 games if we are playing crap, where expectation is such that a decent proportion of the fans believe we should be a top ten Premiership club by right and have to work with a group of aging players?

no chance. More chance of John Gregory coming back.

Incidentally, Tony Adams & Martin Keown are a favoured combination of some board members (apparently!).

 

[Durham Fox]

Do we really think that Dario Grady will walk from a job for life, at a club that he loves and where he can do no wrong, where he is highly regarded and leave all that and join a club that apparently accepts nothing but promotion this season, fans who will get on the managers back after 10 games if we are playing crap, where expectation is such that a decent proportion of the fans believe we should be a top ten Premiership club by right and have to work with a group of aging players?

no chance. More chance of John Gregory coming back.

Incidentally, Tony Adams & Martin Keown are a favoured combination of some board members (apparently!).[/quote]

That would be class IMO

 

[homer]

Second class, or third class ?

 

[Durham Fox]

Second class, or third class

First class!!. They have bags of experience have worked under the most respected and forward thiking manager in the country and would have the complete respect of the players. BBOOOOOOOOOMM!!

 

[homer]

I think we have a class war on our hands

 

[Durham Fox]

I think we have a class war on our hands

Dont start that shit again

 

[Micky]

I do not understand the thinking behind some suggestions for our new manager. Top class players do not necessarily make good managers (Tony Adams and Martin Keown included). A host of successful players have been given the opportunity to manage and have failed. Bryan Robson, John Barnes, David Platt, Rudi Voller, Ruud Hullit to name afew. I'm sure someone will highlight many players that have gone on to make a successful career out of management but I hardly think this is the type of gamble that leicester can afford to take at the minute.

Many successful managers within the current climate were run of the mill players who achieved modestly. Can anybody tell me about the playing careers of Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, O'neill, Coleman, Allardyce, Curbishley, Worthington, Dowie, Megson, O'leary. O.k. you probably can but they hardly set the footballing word alight. I do not see the correlation between playing success and management success - if there is one could somebody let me know. Going on the basis that we pick a successful player to manage our team, I suggest we line up some retired pro's and throw a dart!

I also do not understand the 'he's worked under a top class manager' argument. On that basis Bryan Robson should be a damn good manager but...erm...well Bryan how can I put this...your bloody useless! A manager can only be himself. Some may argue that O'neill learnt his trade from Clough but how come the rest of the forest team haven't made such a success out of management. Well, it's because O'neill has his own unique style that works.

I think the choice for leicester is quite simple. We don't have to gamble. We look at records. We analyse the lower leagues for a manager who has a track record. A manager who has achieved success with little money or talent. If you like, we look for the next O'neill (if there ever will be one). Its not a gamble, its down on paper, proven by fact. Surely it's a simple decision.

 

[homer]

We analyse the lower leagues for a manager who has a track record

Like Peter Taylor and Micky Adams, I suppose ? Or Mark Maghee ? Or perhaps you meant Paul Sturrock ? Or maybe you're talking about Dave Bassett and Howard Wilkinson ?

Can anybody tell me about the playing careers of Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, O'neill, Coleman, Allardyce, Curbishley, Worthington, Dowie, Megson, O'leary.

Are you being serious, or have you been drinking heavily ?

 

[Micky]

I'm not saying these guys weren't good I'm just saying they weren't the real big names for their era. Anyhow my point is that playing status means little in terms of management ability - am I right? I might not be...?

Where is Peter Taylors record for the lower leagues? England U21 but where else? - gillingham - nope, brighton - with a team already going up - nope. Where is McGhees? - reading - hardly.

I'd give sturrock a chance, afterall he hardly had one at southampton.

Wilkinson - lower league - when? won the league championship in a completely different era. everyone knows he's shit. that makes the decision not to employ him an easy one.

Bassett - past his best. has done well but yet again not up to it. isn't this obvious to everyone?