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forgot to add that there is no one that fits that bill, at least no one we can afford or who will come. Levein is the best option we've had so far IMO.
 
The Bam said:
Tony Elsby said:
bertfox said:
its on the bbc website about craig levein now


And where are Hearts? Nowhere in a nowhere league. High profile? Hardly. Experienced in English football? Hardly. Proven record of long-term top class managerial success? Hardly. He might have some talent but we really do need an established, respected English League boss.

Tony,

Please don't be so ignorant. Hearts are 5th in the SPL at the moment, with a view to finishing third for the third year in a row, which gives us Uefa cup qualification. Our league form is suffering a bit at the moment, due to still being involved in the group stages of this season's competition.
We play Schalke in Edinburgh next week, thereafter FC Basel away, and Ferenvacos at home. 5 points from those three games could put us through to the next stage.
At the moment we cannot compete with Rangers and Celtic, because of finances, but we are on the verge of being taken over, and a huge cash injection being put in to strengthen the team.
Admittedly, we are no world beaters, but no-one in a nowhere league is far from the truth.

Rant over.

Here endeth your education for today.............. 8)


While your loyalty to Scottish football does you proud it was my experience in years gone by to witness Scottish football first hand outside of the Celtic/Rangers compound.

It was sad beyond belief.
Nevertheless, I have been entertained by some wonderful Scottish footballers and, indeed, consider that City were at their best ever when metaphorically full of Scots like Davie Gibson, Frank McLintock, Ian King etc.

Not now though. Which Scottish football really excites you in the way Kenny Dalglish, Jimmy Johnstone etc used to. Sorry, Scotland has sacrificed its footballing soul by importing journeymen from Scandinavia at the expense of developing its own.

And now, if Hearts get their "massive cash injection" do you really believe this will mean money for the academies of Scottish youth or more foreign imports to buy yourself on the table of European glory?.

Buying glory means nothing. You've gotta build it.
The Scottish national side is pretty poor just now by their own admission. If Hearts are worse then it doesn't say a lot. I take no joy from that - as a country Scotland's smashing - but just now their football is basement level by their once illustrious standards.
 
Dunc said:
You'll get no backtracking off Tony Elsby. Instead he will come back armed with a tonne of books and relate fact after fact about his views to which you can't be bothered to answer and just let him be.

He's never happy, nothing is good enough and no matter who we get as manager he'll poke holes in their tactics/team selection/purchases/style of football.

basically he wants a
established, respected English League boss
who will make us play football like Brazil in 1970.


If you aim for the stars you might just get to reach some. With City's set-up should we really be happy playing Rotherham and Gillingham etc?
 
Tony Elsby said:
The Bam said:
Tony Elsby said:
bertfox said:
its on the bbc website about craig levein now


And where are Hearts? Nowhere in a nowhere league. High profile? Hardly. Experienced in English football? Hardly. Proven record of long-term top class managerial success? Hardly. He might have some talent but we really do need an established, respected English League boss.

Tony,

Please don't be so ignorant. Hearts are 5th in the SPL at the moment, with a view to finishing third for the third year in a row, which gives us Uefa cup qualification. Our league form is suffering a bit at the moment, due to still being involved in the group stages of this season's competition.
We play Schalke in Edinburgh next week, thereafter FC Basel away, and Ferenvacos at home. 5 points from those three games could put us through to the next stage.
At the moment we cannot compete with Rangers and Celtic, because of finances, but we are on the verge of being taken over, and a huge cash injection being put in to strengthen the team.
Admittedly, we are no world beaters, but no-one in a nowhere league is far from the truth.

Rant over.

Here endeth your education for today.............. 8)


While your loyalty to Scottish football does you proud it was my experience in years gone by to witness Scottish football first hand outside of the Celtic/Rangers compound.

It was sad beyond belief.
Nevertheless, I have been entertained by some wonderful Scottish footballers and, indeed, consider that City were at their best ever when metaphorically full of Scots like Davie Gibson, Frank McLintock, Ian King etc.

Not now though. Which Scottish football really excites you in the way Kenny Dalglish, Jimmy Johnstone etc used to. Sorry, Scotland has sacrificed its footballing soul by importing journeymen from Scandinavia at the expense of developing its own.

And now, if Hearts get their "massive cash injection" do you really believe this will mean money for the academies of Scottish youth or more foreign imports to buy yourself on the table of European glory?.

Buying glory means nothing. You've gotta build it.
The Scottish national side is pretty poor just now by their own admission. If Hearts are worse then it doesn't say a lot. I take no joy from that - as a country Scotland's smashing - but just now their football is basement level by their once illustrious standards.


Tony,

I think you'll find that Hearts DO have a youth academy, and Rangers are the only other Scottish team that has one.
Hearts Do give youth a chance, especially Scottish youth. You will see that there are little or no Old Firm players in the Scotland team, because it is they who have buggered up th Scottish game, bringing in Big names and Foreign imports. Other teams have been guilty of trying to keep up with them in the past, but no longer. HEARTS are one of the leading lights in bringing through young Scottish talent, with 8 of our line up on Saturday being of Scottish origin.
As for the massive cash injection, it is anybody's guess how that will be spent. Just a pity Levein may not be there to see any of it.
Sorry if I sound a bit over the top, but there is life outwith the Old Firm in Scotland, and we have supporters who are every bit as passionate about their club, as you are about Leicester.

All the Best,

The Bam.
 
Well said Bam, Its nice to see someone really passionate about their club. I hope that you make it through to the next stage in europe...Scottish football really needs a lift at the moment, I just hope the Hearts can provide it!
 
The Bam said:
Tony Elsby said:
The Bam said:
Tony Elsby said:
bertfox said:
its on the bbc website about craig levein now


And where are Hearts? Nowhere in a nowhere league. High profile? Hardly. Experienced in English football? Hardly. Proven record of long-term top class managerial success? Hardly. He might have some talent but we really do need an established, respected English League boss.

Tony,

Please don't be so ignorant. Hearts are 5th in the SPL at the moment, with a view to finishing third for the third year in a row, which gives us Uefa cup qualification. Our league form is suffering a bit at the moment, due to still being involved in the group stages of this season's competition.
We play Schalke in Edinburgh next week, thereafter FC Basel away, and Ferenvacos at home. 5 points from those three games could put us through to the next stage.
At the moment we cannot compete with Rangers and Celtic, because of finances, but we are on the verge of being taken over, and a huge cash injection being put in to strengthen the team.
Admittedly, we are no world beaters, but no-one in a nowhere league is far from the truth.

Rant over.

Here endeth your education for today.............. 8)


While your loyalty to Scottish football does you proud it was my experience in years gone by to witness Scottish football first hand outside of the Celtic/Rangers compound.

It was sad beyond belief.
Nevertheless, I have been entertained by some wonderful Scottish footballers and, indeed, consider that City were at their best ever when metaphorically full of Scots like Davie Gibson, Frank McLintock, Ian King etc.

Not now though. Which Scottish football really excites you in the way Kenny Dalglish, Jimmy Johnstone etc used to. Sorry, Scotland has sacrificed its footballing soul by importing journeymen from Scandinavia at the expense of developing its own.

And now, if Hearts get their "massive cash injection" do you really believe this will mean money for the academies of Scottish youth or more foreign imports to buy yourself on the table of European glory?.

Buying glory means nothing. You've gotta build it.
The Scottish national side is pretty poor just now by their own admission. If Hearts are worse then it doesn't say a lot. I take no joy from that - as a country Scotland's smashing - but just now their football is basement level by their once illustrious standards.


Tony,

I think you'll find that Hearts DO have a youth academy, and Rangers are the only other Scottish team that has one.
Hearts Do give youth a chance, especially Scottish youth. You will see that there are little or no Old Firm players in the Scotland team, because it is they who have buggered up th Scottish game, bringing in Big names and Foreign imports. Other teams have been guilty of trying to keep up with them in the past, but no longer. HEARTS are one of the leading lights in bringing through young Scottish talent, with 8 of our line up on Saturday being of Scottish origin.
As for the massive cash injection, it is anybody's guess how that will be spent. Just a pity Levein may not be there to see any of it.
Sorry if I sound a bit over the top, but there is life outwith the Old Firm in Scotland, and we have supporters who are every bit as passionate about their club, as you are about Leicester.

All the Best,

The Bam.


What a refreshing change it would be for Hearts to win the Scottish title. I hope it happens but would never risk betting on it anytime soon.

Sad fact remains that Scotland is just not producing the wonderful players of the past and the current Scottish team reflects that.

I think England will suffer in same way soon (it's started already with our increasing lack of goalkeepers, wingers and genuine strikers but I'll say no more.

It's a brand new day and I don't want to upset Dunc by sounding unhappy.
 
Don't worry about me Tone, got my valium ready for you.

Good news IMO about Levein, think he is the best of the bunch that would come to us.

As for England's prospects, I'm not sure about that really, you look at the players that are in the U-19's, U-21's and even the Schoolboy games and there were plenty of skilful wingers on show. As for strikers, its wait and see usually, but I think Defoe, Owen, Rooney, Heskey are good enough for the next 6-8 years, and 6-8 years is a long time and we usually produce good strikers as a country
 
As for Goalkeepers, Green, Robinson, Kirkland will be about for 10+ years. WE'll be ok mate
 
SilverFox said:
Well said Bam, Its nice to see someone really passionate about their club. I hope that you make it through to the next stage in europe...Scottish football really needs a lift at the moment, I just hope the Hearts can provide it!

Cheers Silverfox, and Tony..........

I think if Levein does get the Leicester job, you will see some Scottish talent move with him, and YOU WILL BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED. I think that a lot of the sadness felt by the fans is in the uncertainty of which players he may take with him. We have around 8 out of contract at the end of the season.................... :(
 
The Bam said:
SilverFox said:
Well said Bam, Its nice to see someone really passionate about their club. I hope that you make it through to the next stage in europe...Scottish football really needs a lift at the moment, I just hope the Hearts can provide it!

Cheers Silverfox, and Tony..........

I think if Levein does get the Leicester job, you will see some Scottish talent move with him, and YOU WILL BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED. I think that a lot of the sadness felt by the fans is in the uncertainty of which players he may take with him. We have around 8 out of contract at the end of the season.................... :(

Bam, are you excited about the takeover of Hearts? Surely this will mean a new era for you as well? Thanks for the info on Levein and your players. Will you look down on LCFC if Levein goes or will you not mind.
 
Dunc said:
Don't worry about me Tone, got my valium ready for you.

Good news IMO about Levein, think he is the best of the bunch that would come to us.

As for England's prospects, I'm not sure about that really, you look at the players that are in the U-19's, U-21's and even the Schoolboy games and there were plenty of skilful wingers on show. As for strikers, its wait and see usually, but I think Defoe, Owen, Rooney, Heskey are good enough for the next 6-8 years, and 6-8 years is a long time and we usually produce good strikers as a country


All have got talent but only Rooney has the chance to be world class - even then probably not as a front line striker. One day I believe Heskey will be a better defender than attacker, Defoe will be forgotten as a nearly man and Owen will never get a full season out of his hamstrings.

Kirkland's our best goalkeeping prospect - like I say we're hardly spoilt for good goalkeepers.

Still I feel forever inspired by your eternal optimism and belief in the regenerative process of our footballing system. Me I think top quality foreign imports are a Godsend but the endless namesworths are a curse.

Every one displaces native talent so where do they go if they don't have the chance to shine?. As in other things as well as football, its time we looked after our own before we arrogantly believe we can solve the whole world's problems.
 
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