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[Brauny Blue]

Not saying your mates did either Brauny, and I'm not disbelieiving that abuse from the police can occur as you claim it did.

The incident happened outside the ground before k.o.
Make no mistake about my mates did nothing wrong.
My thoughts were that it was group of police and that didnt want to police the game. So hey presto lets arrest a few of them and feck off back to headquarters where we can have a nice warm drink.

 

[Blue Maniac]

Not saying I don't sympathise, but there are always two sides to every story. I have never witnessed abuses as you describe but then when I go to away games I don't drink alcohol, I don't bait the opposition supporters or the police and I don't indulge in the type of twatish behaviour that some people seem to at football matches.

Not saying your mates did either Brauny, and I'm not disbelieiving that abuse from the police can occur as you claim it did. It's just that sometimes people can avoid trouble in the first place by the way in which they conduct themselves.

Again, this isn't having a go at you or your mates Brauny, just a general observation.

Totally agree. I'm inclined to believe that titheads can certainly get out of hand on occasion, but I think a lot og the time the way you conduct yourself affects the type of day you have. That's the reason I'm teetotal :icon_wink

 

[Blue Maniac]

The incident happened outside the ground before k.o.
Make no mistake about my mates did nothing wrong.
My thoughts were that it was group of police and that didnt want to police the game. So hey presto lets arrest a few of them and feck off back to headquarters where we can have a nice warm drink.

Does that explain why they were giving a helping in the back of the van though? Not sure there's ever any reason for that.

Unless it's Cov fans.

 

[Brauny Blue]

Totally agree. I'm inclined to believe that titheads can certainly get out of hand on occasion, but I think a lot og the time the way you conduct yourself affects the type of day you have. That's the reason I'm teetotal :icon_wink

Imo different police forces have different attitudes towards supporters depending on where you are in the country.
In the past i've found the policing in London to be often aggressive and intimidating. At outposts like Norwich i found the police to be relaxed and thus creating a better atmosphere for the supporters.
At Wolves i've seen coppers glaring at you, with the threat of arrest if you mutter the slightest swear word.

 

[Lboro fox]

I thought Kuffour was superb yesterday and he is exactly the sort of striker i think we should sign. Lots of pace and held the ball up really well, his goal was fantastic too.

 

[Lako42]

Imo different police forces have different attitudes towards supporters depending on where you are in the country.
In the past i've found the policing in London to be often aggressive and intimidating. At outposts like Norwich i found the police to be relaxed and thus creating a better atmosphere for the supporters.
At Wolves i've seen coppers glaring at you, with the threat of arrest if you mutter the slightest swear word.

West Midlands police hate East Midland supporters, Villa games being the worst. I have no respect for the Police at football matches based purely on what I have seen over the years.

Thugs dressed up.

 

[spionfox]

West Midlands police hate East Midland supporters, Villa games being the worst.

As I already posted, I tend not to cross swords with police at away games. When we knocked Villa out of the cup last year though my missus slipped and sprained her ankle. Our car was parked over in a school behind the Trinity Road stand and there were a line of police who were not going top let me through to get it no matter what. They told me I had to walk all the way around the ground, the long way round.

Being charitable, it could have been my own protection they were worried about as it would have meant me in my City colours walking through the Villa fans to reach my car.

Anyway, the coppers were adamant that I wasn't going past them no matter what. All I did was walk 20 yards further down the road and then slip into another gateway to the Villa car park and then behind the line of coppers. Felt like giving them a wave but just carried on to my car completely untroubled by the hordes of Villa supporters that I passed.

I think a lot of the time the police just don't give us the credit we deserve and they look on the dark side of things at all times.

 

[Yorkshire Vixen]

according to a city fan who sat near us he said he saw it all kicking off at the station and in a pub/s opposite and he spoke to a copper and they said they had heard there was going to be trouble hence the police/riot fans and after the game there were quite a few rovers fans in the local hero they looked like they were planning something

anyway back to the game kuffour looked good although tunchev was on the wrong side of him for the goal still a great hit though, i dont remember lambert at all, thought our substitutions of adams and hayles changed the game for us

 

[Chuck T Masala]

As in most walks of life there are good coppers and bad coppers. It does seem that at Football matches they can tar everyone with the same brush a bit and if you are there you are touble etc.

In 2002 during the Firemans strike, 3 army tenders attended a fire in St Annes in Nottingham, the pub had been set ablaze by locals involved in a barring dispute or the like. Dozens of local thugs started stoning the Sailors and Soldiers fighting the fire. The Officer in charge of the troops asked the local police escorting the tenders to intervene. He refused and said his lads had to come back and police this place when they had gone so he didnt want to stir things up. When the CSM of 1RIR suggested he and a few of his lads snatch the ring leaders the copper said he would have to arrest then if they did as there was no riot order served (or something similar). Technically he may be right. But police wouldnt intervene to stop the rabble stoning blokes doing someone elses job. I view the police quite differently now.

 

[city-faithful]

I have never viewed them with anything other than complete derision, like it or lump it there are factions of the institution which have been shown to be wholly racist, greater manchester police more recently than most, and they quite often and routinely perform SS style 'show me your documents' interrogations here in winchester. I've been stopped, asked for my name, age, home address and address of destination, plus past convictions. Whilst this isn't illegal its wholly immoral and unjustified, and they have no clear right to interrogate me as such. Obviously I don't have to answer, but refusal to answer may mean a ride in the back of the police car under some trumped up charge. The police are bully boys who more often than not seek to humiliate and degrade the people they are supposed to be protecting. And before anyone goes wild I do accept that this doesn't apply to the whole of the police force, not at all, but any institution attempt to govern a country through the promotion of laws must, in my opinion at least, be squeaky clean through and through. Interrogating innocents as though they are brown shirts is not squeaky clean, beating people up at football is not squeaky clean. Scum.

 

[lazzer]

Being arrested as a 17 year old waiting for bus ,being thrown into a van and having my leg trapped in the door. Being forced face down in the van and having a few a boots and a truncheon forcibly rammed up arse all over a case of mistaken identity changed my mind about joining the force.

 

[spionfox]

and they quite often and routinely perform SS style 'show me your documents' interrogations here in winchester. I've been stopped, asked for my name, age, home address and address of destination, plus past convictions. Whilst this isn't illegal its wholly immoral and unjustified, and they have no clear right to interrogate me as such. Obviously I don't have to answer, but refusal to answer may mean a ride in the back of the police car under some trumped up charge.

I am just idly wondering why this has never happened to me. Apart from the fact I am not in Winchester of course.

 

[city-faithful]

admittedly, crime is minimal here, meaning they have far more time spare to police the streets as such, and there is a large sense of pride about the city, residents really really don't like young people loitering, littering and louting. It may also be that I'm a 21 year old student, but all these things don't justify interrogating me at the roadside. Bah.

 

[bocadillo]

West Midlands police hate East Midland supporters, Villa games being the worst. I have no respect for the Police at football matches based purely on what I have seen over the years.

Thugs dressed up.

So do east midlands police!

 

[spionfox]

residents really really don't like young people loitering, littering and louting.

I dare say they wouldn't be too keen on old people displaying antisocial tendencies like that either :icon_wink

 

[city-faithful]

hahaha im guessing not! though, lets face it, with the exception of bernie most old people aren't capable of sustaining the energy to loiter with any serious intent! Changing tena ladies and colostomy bags then making tea just about does it for the majority of the populus here.

 

[spionfox]

lets face it, with the exception of bernie most old people aren't capable of sustaining the energy to loiter with any serious intent!

Especially when dressed in shorts and there is a chilly wind blowing :icon_lol:

 

[Matt_B]

Just watched the extended highlights, both penalties where clear cut.

 

[Steven]

I am just idly wondering why this has never happened to me. Apart from the fact I am not in Winchester of course.

It has never happened to me either but that doesn't stop me from seeing the shortcomings of the Police. :icon_conf

 

[Hazzman]

Just watched the extended highlights, both penalties where clear cut.

Steve Wonder could have told you that.

At work this morning, approx 9am.

A work colleague asks me 'Is your banning order came through yet?'
Besumed I say 'what you mean?'
'I saw you at City on Saturday.'
'What you going on about?'
'When you ran down 3 flights of stairs at that handball f'ing and blinding'
'Oh yes. ' :icon_lol:

He was a few rows above me and noticed me at this exact moment - looking angry and annoyed. Hopefully it was a bit more scary than my Alan Carr impression at Cheltenham.