Leicester and PSR for 23/24

[Payne74]

How many years does 'some slack' equal?

Maybe a better question is what do you realistically expect ?

Ask the fans of Leeds, Sunderland, Sheffield W, Stoke, QPR, Portsmouth etc etc etc how it's working out for them.

Man U fans were used to winning everything under Ferguson, the Glaziers happened the fans soon wanted them out when they weren't winning with the club hugely loaded with debt, they got their wish when Radcliffe brought into UTD, now they want him out.

Leicester was formed in 1884 and since then there's been very very few seasons of success, Leicester have had the most successful period in the clubs history in the last 10 years, it might never happen again or it could start in the next season or two, who knows, Leicester are a good Director of Football away from success as the foundations are already in place.

 

[Brown Nose]

Maybe a better question is what do you realistically expect ?

Ask the fans of Leeds, Sunderland, Sheffield W, Stoke, QPR, Portsmouth etc etc etc how it's working out for them.

Man U fans were used to winning everything under Ferguson, the Glaziers happened the fans soon wanted them out when they weren't winning with the club hugely loaded with debt, they got their wish when Radcliffe brought into UTD, now they want him out.

Leicester was formed in 1884 and since then there's been very very few seasons of success, Leicester have had the most successful period in the clubs history in the last 10 years, it might never happen again or it could start in the next season or two, who knows, Leicester are a good Director of Football away from success as the foundations are already in place.

Fair enough. So 'some slack' equals forever for you because they've already delivered more than you ever wanted.

Personally, if I ever get to that point, I'd quit supporting them.

For me, football is about what can be achieved, not what has already happened.

 

[SilverFox]

I have never wanted KP to go. I just want the infrastructure to change. It’s very frustrating how far behind we are lagging. Frustrating because it doesn’t need to be this way. Rudkin doesn’t even need to go if they love him. Give him an important title that amounts to nothing at all. Perhaps he could be ‘director of operations’ and that just means he sharpens all of the pencils. I don’t care what they call it, but please for the love of god starting running it like a proper premier league club.

 

[Joe_Fox]

How many years does 'some slack' equal?

Not exactly Bob Dylan, is it?

 

[Payne74]

Fair enough. So 'some slack' equals forever for you because they've already delivered more than you ever wanted.

Personally, if I ever get to that point, I'd quit supporting them.

For me, football is about what can be achieved, not what has already happened.

Everyone has a different view, wanting to achieve and achieving are two different things.
I'm just being realistic about supporting Leicester, the club was formed in 1884 and has won 5x major trophies in that time, that's an average of 1 trophy every 28 years.

Tottenham have spent 1billon on their stadium but their last trophy was the league cup in 2008. Their fans are fuming with Levy but it's not likely to change anytime soon

I would love Leicester to win more trophies and be more competitive in the premier league, Football is a lot about luck, the right manager at the right time with the right players, Just because you spend big on a player doesn't guarantee success, then again spending £1M on a non league striker might turn out to be successful...

I do think Top will turn things around because he appears to care and he obviously doesn't want to lose hundreds of millions of pounds.

I have watched Leicester sign players like Junior Lewis and Brian Carey, I have also witnessed Mahrez,Kante and Cambiaso...I no we are better now than we have ever been, it's just a blip.

 

[Payne74]

Not exactly Bob Dylan, is it?

Try and get "There must be some way out of here, said the Joker to the Thief” into a TB football post

 

[Feidlimid]

Not exactly Bob Dylan, is it?

No, but I could hear The Byrds

 

[OzzieFox]

How many years does 'some slack' equal?

Probably the rest our natural.....but there's a lot of boomers on here.

 

[OzzieFox]

Probably the rest our natural.....but there's a lot of boomers on here.

Just one more thing we can be blamed for. Having a house, financial security, decent music, complacency after winning the Prem.

 

[Feidlimid]

Please, I'm a joneser. At least throw the right mud.

 

[LoopisDeLupis]

Just one more thing we can be blamed for. Having a house, financial security, decent music, complacency after winning the Prem.

Whereas millenials are ruining the housing market by not being able to afford one. Go figure

 

[HFox]

I think almost everyone on this forum and in our wider supporter base would prefer King Power to stay (rather than rolling the dice), whilst making the following changes:

• Replacing Rudkin as the DoF.
• Bringing in competent people to run all aspects of the club. That might mean Susan Whelan has to go too.
• Setting out a clear plan of where this club is going and when we might expect to get there (as Vichai did when they first bought the club).
• Having an open dialog with fans that respects that the club ultimately belongs to us.
• Scaling back some of the costly elements of the stadium expansion, but actually getting it done.

We know that getting back to being a top eight challenger is going to take some time as our squad isn't good enough by far, but Villa are a good example of a club that was in a similar position to us only a few years ago and are now fairly established in the top eight.

From my POV you can include

• Ticket prices to stop be hiked up to silly figures not befitting of a working class city of Leicester's standing. £44/55 cheapest tickets are at a complete premium
• The stop of a culture whereby the players can directly feed into the upper hierarchy of the club and go over the head of the manager. Alongside this the overcompensation of such average players.
• BC Game scrapped for a palatable sponsor
• The stop of the club being used as a venue for a) Thai politics b) Top showing off to his influencer friends
• The stop of the academy talent drain - Nyoni (L'pool), Noubisse (Man City), Monga?

 

[HFox]

Everyone has a different view, wanting to achieve and achieving are two different things.
I'm just being realistic about supporting Leicester, the club was formed in 1884 and has won 5x major trophies in that time, that's an average of 1 trophy every 28 years.

Tottenham have spent 1billon on their stadium but their last trophy was the league cup in 2008. Their fans are fuming with Levy but it's not likely to change anytime soon

I would love Leicester to win more trophies and be more competitive in the premier league, Football is a lot about luck, the right manager at the right time with the right players, Just because you spend big on a player doesn't guarantee success, then again spending £1M on a non league striker might turn out to be successful...

I do think Top will turn things around because he appears to care and he obviously doesn't want to lose hundreds of millions of pounds.

I have watched Leicester sign players like Junior Lewis and Brian Carey, I have also witnessed Mahrez,Kante and Cambiaso...I no we are better now than we have ever been, it's just a blip.

Your view and realism is rooted in 140 years of history. If we use that as an indicator then Bolton Wanderers, Huddersfield Town and Preston North End are sleeping giants who haven't found their natural level.

The club has grown via King Power that can't be disputed - hence we've hit those heights but we shouldn't given in to be a sustained club at top flight level because of the past. The success should have an outright legacy of becoming a Premier League fixture. 40k in most weeks in one of the country's most populated cities.

I'd want to see us adopting the approaches used by Brighton, Bournemouth & Brentford. Clever, astute use of resources whereby they don't have as much as the bigger clubs but they can see all the minimal gains they can make and use them.

I think the point Top will turn things around galling because he simply won't get rid of the biggest problem a or he won't actually take on some proper footballing opinion.

The club's upper hierarchy has a collection of people who have been at the club for 10 years plus; that's not a healthy turnover for a business of its size. It's crying out for new ideas and new energy but Top can't past his loyalty via friendship to a guy known as Toenails or Shadow by everyone at the club for very obvious reasons.

 

[camberwell fox]

Fair enough. So 'some slack' equals forever for you because they've already delivered more than you ever wanted.

Personally, if I ever get to that point, I'd quit supporting them.

For me, football is about what can be achieved, not what has already happened.

I can see your point but 'nostalgia,' 'memories' and 'hope' is what keeps us all coming back. I seem to remember having a similar debate with you around the sacking of Ranieri and me perhaps being more forgiving based on THAT achievement.

If you have no link to the past or can't remember (and appreciate and balance) fondly what happened and indeed link this to people (owners and players), then there is no point in LCFC is there? It all becomes 'disposable' and 'replaceable' only focusing on the here and now rather than what actually got us here in the first place and the possibility of these things being replicated in the future?

 

[big_mac4824]

Fair enough. So 'some slack' equals forever for you because they've already delivered more than you ever wanted.

Personally, if I ever get to that point, I'd quit supporting them.

For me, football is about what can be achieved, not what has already happened.

Yet that is not what was being implied. As was stated we are one decent decision away from turning the ship around.

 

[homer]

Used to be all fields round here

 

[popillius]

Most City supporters are still 'Aiyawatt can do no wrong'.

But that's nonsense. Most supporters are clearly unhappy with some of the decisions he has made but are also of the mind that we are currently better with him that without him. That's a pretty fair stance at the moment.

 

[Brown Nose]

But that's nonsense. Most supporters are clearly unhappy with some of the decisions he has made but are also of the mind that we are currently better with him that without him. That's a pretty fair stance at the moment.

I happily accept that people have different opinions on this but you're missing the bit that I'm interested in.

You say 'at the moment'. I understand you don't think that moment has come.

When would be your moment? I assume that relegation and financial mismanagement aren't factors as they've already happened.

What needs to happen for you to turn on Aiyawatt as owner?

 

[OzzieFox]

Please, I'm a joneser. At least throw the right mud.

Tbf, I'm on old XGen

 

[OzzieFox]

What needs to happen for you to turn on Aiyawatt as owner?

I thought of a few funny answers to this. But seriously, when he stops caring about Leicester. I don't mean misguided, I mean genuinely, when he stops caring. I think the only thing that would make him do that is if the relationship between him and Leicester broke down, due to a few, but vocal, ungrateful fanbase.