Nigel Adkins for promotion?

[Blue Maniac]

For the time being, yes and over Nigel ****ing Adkins, yes, for all time.

Really? I'm not in favour of change at this stage but Adkins has been successful so far in his managerial career. He didn't deserve to be sacked by Southampton, in much the same way Pearson didn't. If change were to be made, based on recent achievements Adkins would be an upgrade.

 

[Graz]

Really? I'm not in favour of change at this stage but Adkins has been successful so far in his managerial career. He didn't deserve to be sacked by Southampton, in much the same way Pearson didn't. If change were to be made, based on recent achievements Adkins would be an upgrade.

Agreed (until the last point)

If we were looking for a new manager, Adkins would be a good shout.

Absolutely think we need to stick by Pearson though. Anything else would be lunacy.

 

[Blue Maniac]

Agreed (until the last point)

You agree with everything but the main point of my post. Cheers :icon_lol:

Absolutely think we need to stick by Pearson though. Anything else would be lunacy.

It's fair to say NP wasn't my first choice in the first place, but kicking him out now would be ridiculous. Stability is important, and I feel another managerial change would lead to too many other changes at the club.

 

[Macky]

Really? I'm not in favour of change at this stage but Adkins has been successful so far in his managerial career. He didn't deserve to be sacked by Southampton, in much the same way Pearson didn't. If change were to be made, based on recent achievements Adkins would be an upgrade.

It's personal

 

[spionfox]

It's fair to say NP wasn't my first choice in the first place, but kicking him out now would be ridiculous. Stability is important

Staying in the top 6 by the end of the season is important. If it is felt that Nigel can do that then I agree it would be ridiculous to get rid of him. If we look like dropping out of the top 6 however.....

 

[SJN-Fox]

He didn't deserve to be sacked by Southampton

Yes he did. The owners wanted a particular style of training,development, tactics and way of playing. He refused to buy into this. If I didn't do what I was told at work then I would expect to be shown the door.

 

[SJN-Fox]

Staying in the top 6 by the end of the season is important. If it is felt that Nigel can do that then I agree it would be ridiculous to get rid of him. If we look like dropping out of the top 6 however.....

And on recent form it looks inevitable. I fully expect us to be out of the top six by this time next week.

 

[Blue Maniac]

Yes he did. The owners wanted a particular style of training,development, tactics and way of playing. He refused to buy into this. If I didn't do what I was told at work then I would expect to be shown the door.

But presumably you don't have more knowledge in your foreskin than your bosses have ever possessed? All that stuff is the job of the manager. These days more and more football club owners - people who often know the cube root of **** all nothing about the game - want to be involved in things that are none of their ****ing business, like training, tactics, team selection, scouting. I don't understand why they don't just buy a copy of Football Manager.

 

[SJN-Fox]

Somewhere I have an article that looks at the whys and the wherefores. I'll dig it out if I can find it. It's a bit more involved than knowing where ones foreskin is.

 

[Brown Nose]

But presumably you don't have more knowledge in your foreskin than your bosses have ever possessed? All that stuff is the job of the manager. These days more and more football club owners - people who often know the cube root of **** all nothing about the game - want to be involved in things that are none of their ****ing business, like training, tactics, team selection, scouting. I don't understand why they don't just buy a copy of Football Manager.

There is even more drivel spoken about the closed shop of football management. If being a former player was significant, then loads of excellent players turning out to be utter shite managers wouldn't happen. And people like Jose Mourinho, who barely kicked a ball in anger and got his apprenticeship as an interpreter, wouldn't be the most intelligent and capable manager in world football.

One day, football might realise that football management is much more about 'management' than it is about 'football'. At least owners tend to know how to manage things. What makes anyone think that a former football player is in any way, shape or form, fit to be a manager? Some will be able to adapt to it, most won't. There are so many poor excuses for managers making absurd decisions day in, day out, that have got to where they are because they played 100 games for Notts County rather than any kind of footballing or managerial intelligence. I'd trust the average owner over the average manager every time. With the notable exception of those shyster, con men like Mad Mandy that are only in it for their own personal ego and gain.

 

[Blue Maniac]

There is even more drivel spoken about the closed shop of football management. If being a former player was significant, then loads of excellent players turning out to be utter shite managers wouldn't happen. And people like Jose Mourinho, who barely kicked a ball in anger and got his apprenticeship as an interpreter, wouldn't be the most intelligent and capable manager in world football.

I agree with this in part. Mourinho was brought up in the game. He has lived the game his whole life. He served his apprenticeship working with and opposite some of the most accomplished people in the business. He's not exactly a 'non-football' person. A player's on-pitch experience is of little importance when it comes to management. It gives him more credence as a coach, sure, but it doesn't automatically make him a better manager. Tony Adams springs to mind - a top class defender became an utterly dogshite manager. But the first team manager needs to have football knowledge, and must be a football person.

With the notable exception of those shyster, con men like Mad Mandy that are only in it for their own personal ego and gain.

That's exactly the point I'm making. When the owner of a club starts to insist on being involved in on-field tactics and team selection and identifying transfer targets and scheduling training, something is wrong. These things should be the remit of the coaching staff and absolutely nobody else, ever.