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Who's advice would that be Redditch that he didn't have prior to appointing Holloway?
 
Who's advice would that be Redditch that he didn't have prior to appointing Holloway?

This is an issue that has cropped up several times recently on the forum.

I think we would all agree that Mandaric's judgement in appointing managers is poor - I'm sorry to say that this is made more difficult because there are presumably potentially decent managers who wouldn't work for him.

Here's an idea - why shouldn't he give Fergie or Radknapp or MON a ring and ask them for their advice?
 
This is an issue that has cropped up several times recently on the forum.

I think we would all agree that Mandaric's judgement in appointing managers is poor - I'm sorry to say that this is made more difficult because there are presumably potentially decent managers who wouldn't work for him.

Here's an idea - why shouldn't he give Fergie or Radknapp or MON a ring and ask them for their advice?

Because they probably all dislike him! Also, with all due respect, what would they know really? A lot of well educated pundits thought Holloway was a decent appointment.
 
Because they probably all dislike him! Also, with all due respect, what would they know really? A lot of well educated pundits thought Holloway was a decent appointment.

Well I think they would know because they've all got good brains and football nouse.

But I'm not sure about the "well educated pundits". I think many of us - me included - were quite pleased with the Holloway appointment on the bases that Mandaric had really struggled to find a manager and Holloway seemed to be enjoying some success with limited resources at Plymouth. To be honest I hadn't taken aboard the apparantly very shallow side of him
 
Well I think they would know because they've all got good brains and football nouse.

But I'm not sure about the "well educated pundits". I think many of us - me included - were quite pleased with the Holloway appointment on the bases that Mandaric had really struggled to find a manager and Holloway seemed to be enjoying some success with limited resources at Plymouth. To be honest I hadn't taken aboard the apparantly very shallow side of him

Are you convinced he is shallow?
 
The difference between the Premier and Championship is much bigger than between the Championship and League One. So you could say the play off finals were more important.

If we go down it's not the end of the world.
Hundreds of thousands of people watch football outside the top two divisions, why should we think we're above that?


It fecking is.............. It's worse than that
 
In your opinion, how has Holloway got the fans on his side since being here?
I have no idea, alex. And I wouldn't like to speak on behalf of the fans you mention.
 
In your opinion, how has Holloway got the fans on his side since being here?
because they look upon him as one of the lads, its as simple as that Alex. They think he is a laugh
 
Are you convinced he is shallow?

As BG implies - he has made an art of presenting himself as a really likeable, funny man. This suggests to me that he does it to deflect from his inadequacies as a football manager - and, very obviously, to build up a store of goodwill with the fans to make it more difficult for the owner to sack him on the basis of performance.
 
I still don't know what he has specifically done whilst at our club to ensure such loyalty from our fans, it bemuses me to be honest.
 
Without question, this is the biggest game since the famous Tony James game when we avoided joining the third tier of English football last time.

In my opinion, games like the cup final against tranmere or "that" game against Wycombe do not even come close in terms of importance. So we lost against Wycombe. As embarissing as that was all it really meant is that we would go one more year without winning the FA Cup. We were still, regardless of the outcome of that one match, at the time, a relatively very successful Premier League team. Had we lost to Tranmere, again, as dissapointing as that would have been it would not have potentially shaped the whole future of our club in the way that a loss on Sunday could.

If we end up getting relegated on Sunday the future could be very bleak. Sure, we could do a Man City and come up relatively quickly and become an established Premiership team in a short space of time. Or just as likely, maybe even more so seeing as we are Leicester City after all, we could do a Nottingham Forest or even a Bradford and get stuck down there for an awful long time and just like Forest keep talking about times of the past we will be forced to resort to the same.
 
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You didn't have to, which I why I asked 'in your opinion'.
OK, in my opinion;

Ian Holloway is a very nice, and very likeable guy. He talks to us fans on our level and we appreciate that. He appears to have no heirs or graces about him, and you just know that at heart, he's one of us. He's had lots of personal issues in his life that he's had to deal with, and he's taken those challenges and beaten them. If his attitude to football is the same as it is to life, he'll succeed at Leicester City.

An absolute 100% perfect scenario for me, is for us to stay up, and somehow, over the course of the next month or so, for Ian Holloway to prove he is the man for this club.

IF, we were flying high in the league, and playing nice football, I'd love the guy, his off field antics would turn into something totally different to what I view them now. But as it stands, for me personally I consider it gut wrenching. If Ian Holloway had taken us into the top 10 this season, which was a reasonable ask, I'd be bigging him up as much as the next man, but he hasn't. All I care about his the football job he's doing, not the media one.

If, IF he keeps his job, I for one will give him a clean slate for the forthcoming season. But my expectations won't be so high, and the actual time I'd give him to be judged upon, will be seriously less than that of a new Manager. Why?, because he would have had the best part of a year in the job already.

Ian Holloway has been given better treatment than any other Manager I know, and I'd put it down to the reasons I mention at the start of this post. Even I find it difficult to dislike the guy, despite his worse than poor start to his tenure, and the damage he is doing at our club.

However, one question I don't know the answer to, is if Holloway hadn't been given the job, and somebody else had, would we be in a better or worse position than our current one?
 
OK, in my opinion;

Ian Holloway is a very nice, and very likeable guy. He talks to us fans on our level and we appreciate that. He appears to have no heirs or graces about him, and you just know that at heart, he's one of us. He's had lots of personal issues in his life that he's had to deal with, and he's taken those challenges and beaten them. If his attitude to football is the same as it is to life, he'll succeed at Leicester City.

An absolute 100% perfect scenario for me, is for us to stay up, and somehow, over the course of the next month or so, for Ian Holloway to prove he is the man for this club.

IF, we were flying high in the league, and playing nice football, I'd love the guy, his off field antics would turn into something totally different to what I view them now. But as it stands, for me personally I consider it gut wrenching. If Ian Holloway had taken us into the top 10 this season, which was a reasonable ask, I'd be bigging him up as much as the next man, but he hasn't. All I care about his the football job he's doing, not the media one.

If, IF he keeps his job, I for one will give him a clean slate for the forthcoming season. But my expectations won't be so high, and the actual time I'd give him to be judged upon, will be seriously less than that of a new Manager. Why?, because he would have had the best part of a year in the job already.

Ian Holloway has been given better treatment than any other Manager I know, and I'd put it down to the reasons I mention at the start of this post. Even I find it difficult to dislike the guy, despite his worse than poor start to his tenure, and the damage he is doing at our club.

However, one question I don't know the answer to, is if Holloway hadn't been given the job, and somebody else had, would we be in a better or worse position than our current one?


That is spot on. Couldn't agree more.
 
If we lose it is historic. Where were you when...? which is similar to our first Cup win. If we win (or more hopefully Southampton lose) then this game is a mere footnote. Last week was as big a game IMO. That was safety in the bag against duff opposition - can't believe we blew it.

With regards Holloway, my distance gives me a far more subjective view. He's still here because of all the Managerial changes in the recent past, people like/liked him because he seemed to be one of them. I stopped reading his column on the BBC very quickly as the guy just seems to bring out one tired expresion after another, he doesn't think about what he writes, he puts it for effect, he just wants to be liked. He's a simple idiot.

MM should buy him a puppy as a parting gift.

Dowie - Why? May as well bring in FIF, after all he was a shareholder who lost all his money when the supporters were last screwed.
 
Biggest game for a long long while.

I'm so glad that BG, Melts and I have got our tickets (Sorry if that's already been posted).
 
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