Speculation The hysterical and annoying, but traditional, totally unfounded summer 2020 rumours thread
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fitz
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Not sure why it's no longer us, west ham and Everton. When did that change?
M17TT C
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Didn't realise Harvey had a PL winners medal.
Micky
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I'm sure Demarai often sits down and thinks 'I was great during that season'
Robin127
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Actually he was. There were a couple of games towards the end of the season where he was bought on near the end and he did well running the clock down. I had high hopes for him then.
mabrah
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I think most of us have been of similar opinion on Gray for a few seasons now. That is, the talent is obviously there. We want, if not ache, for him to use and push on, become a true great. It's saddening that he doesn't. It has to be down to attitude. Maybe he thinks he's done enough already, he expects his own talent to take over and shine through.
This is typified for me when he tries one of his tricks, maybe a step over, and the defender doesn't fall for it. They've read it, seen it a hundred times before. Gray is baffled; it always worked on the playground. Gray's got the tricks early but he hasn't worked since. True greats have tricks and work on them, they graft. Maybe not Gray. He's the same talented kid with bags of potential that we was 5 years ago. How long do you give him?
This is typified for me when he tries one of his tricks, maybe a step over, and the defender doesn't fall for it. They've read it, seen it a hundred times before. Gray is baffled; it always worked on the playground. Gray's got the tricks early but he hasn't worked since. True greats have tricks and work on them, they graft. Maybe not Gray. He's the same talented kid with bags of potential that we was 5 years ago. How long do you give him?
camberwell fox
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Gray can be summed up magnificently in one sentence:
“All of the gear but no idea”
“All of the gear but no idea”
Micky
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It is nothing about tricks, it is more about the fact that time and again he makes the wrong decision.
mabrah
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Tricks was a metaphor, an example to illustrate the broader point. That is, he hasn't developed. He's not worked with what he has to become a better player - and that includes developing his footballing brain.
It's his choice of course, nobody is obliged to develop their skills, but it is nonetheless disappointing to see someone neglect their talent.
Robin127
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He is in that respect he is almost the same as Theo Walcott.
give_us_a_wave
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I'm 55 & available on a free. Currently out of contract.
popillius
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If he's happy to be a substitute, I'd absolutely keep him. He does influence games when he comes on and he changes the dynamic of a match with his pace. We have seen it time and time again. He is mightily frustrating and he is far too inconsistent to be worthy of a starting place but as a sub, he's a decent option. If he wants guaranteed starts, then he needs to move.
pork pie fox
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Presumably he’d be added to our medical team, given the amount of injuries we’ve suffered of late?
M17TT C
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| P | Pld | Pts | |
| 1 | Liverpool | 20 | 47 |
| 2 | Arsenal | 21 | 43 |
| 3 | Nottm F | 21 | 41 |
| 4 | Newcastle | 21 | 38 |
| 5 | Chelsea | 21 | 37 |
| 6 | Manchester C | 21 | 35 |
| 7 | Aston Villa | 21 | 35 |
| 8 | Bournemouth | 21 | 34 |
| 9 | Fulham | 21 | 30 |
| 10 | Brentford | 21 | 28 |
| 11 | Brighton | 20 | 28 |
| 12 | West Ham | 21 | 26 |
| 13 | Tottenham | 21 | 24 |
| 14 | Palace | 21 | 24 |
| 15 | Manchester U | 20 | 23 |
| 16 | Everton | 20 | 17 |
| 17 | Ipswich | 20 | 16 |
| 18 | Wolves | 21 | 16 |
| 19 | Leicester | 21 | 14 |
| 20 | Southampton | 20 | 6 |
