Thursday at the Walkers

[Brown Nose]

Really can't say that it keeps me awake at night but:

Allen appointed staff without prior clearance or authorisation - SO WHAT, WASN'T HE THE CLUB'S MANAGER?

Allen denigrated the young lads by saying they hadn't earned the right to be in the changing rooms (despite winning a small trophy last season) - QUITE RIGHT TOO. THE PONCEY LITTLE FECKERS WERE/ARE WAY TOO BIG FOR THEIR BOOTS.

Allen banned vital staff from the training ground (who have/need constant contact with the players during the working day) LIKE WHO? APART FROM COACHES AND PHYSIOS, WHO ELSE MATTERS?

Allen fell out with an "important" long-serving, non-playing member of staff - IF THIS WAS BIRCH AS I WAS LED TO BELIEVE, FAIR PLAY TO HIM. HE'S NEEDED CHUCKING OUT OF BELVOIR DRIVE FOR YEARS.

Allen bullied members of the playing staff leading to a strong sense of dissatisfaction - GOOD!

Allen caused three senior players to lead a revolt and demand transfers - NOT ONE OF WHOM WOULD HAVE BEEN MISSED.

Allen was rude to and unprofessional with staff - VERY VAGUE. AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, SO WAS MON PRETTY REGULARLY. NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING.

Allen was unprofessional in his dealings with third parties - NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN.

If that's all MM's apologists can come up with, it still stinks.

 

[newtonfox]

Really can't say that it keeps me awake at night but:

Allen appointed staff without prior clearance or authorisation - SO WHAT, WASN'T HE THE CLUB'S MANAGER?

Allen denigrated the young lads by saying they hadn't earned the right to be in the changing rooms (despite winning a small trophy last season) - QUITE RIGHT TOO. THE PONCEY LITTLE FECKERS WERE/ARE WAY TOO BIG FOR THEIR BOOTS.

Allen banned vital staff from the training ground (who have/need constant contact with the players during the working day) LIKE WHO? APART FROM COACHES AND PHYSIOS, WHO ELSE MATTERS?
Allen fell out with an "important" long-serving, non-playing member of staff - IF THIS WAS BIRCH AS I WAS LED TO BELIEVE, FAIR PLAY TO HIM. HE'S NEEDED CHUCKING OUT OF BELVOIR DRIVE FOR YEARS.

Allen bullied members of the playing staff leading to a strong sense of dissatisfaction - GOOD!

Allen caused three senior players to lead a revolt and demand transfers - NOT ONE OF WHOM WOULD HAVE BEEN MISSED.

Allen was rude to and unprofessional with staff - VERY VAGUE. AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, SO WAS MON PRETTY REGULARLY. NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING.

Allen was unprofessional in his dealings with third parties - NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN.

If that's all MM's apologists can come up with, it still stinks.

 

[Steven]

Allen denigrated the young lads by saying they hadn't earned the right to be in the changing rooms (despite winning a small trophy last season) - QUITE RIGHT TOO. THE PONCEY LITTLE FECKERS WERE/ARE WAY TOO BIG FOR THEIR BOOTS.

This is ironic, isn't? :icon_conf

 

[newtonfox]

This is ironic, isn't? :icon_conf

isnt it just the lads win the league with 5 games too go :icon_cool:icon_wink

 

[newtonfox]

isnt it just the lads win the league with 5 games too go :icon_cool:icon_wink

and the first team just manage to stay up FFs

 

[Boy Genius]

and what about the rumour he twatted one of the players just before Clive Clarke had his problem? Did he twat a player and could that be the reason he went?
Another rumour was he had a pop at MM before the forest game because he refused to play Kaebi, MA struggled to deal with an interpreter so would not play him.
But we will never be given the answer to those questions will we, and to be honest what would fans gain from knowning it?
I noticed at the Watford game HK was stood in the technical area with MA for ages before he came on. There was plenty of chances to get him on but it never happened until the last 5 mins or so. Saying that since that game HK has not had a look in despite a good run out with the reserves.

 

[Jeff]

Another rumour was he had a pop at MM before the forest game because he refused to play Kaebi, MA struggled to deal with an interpreter so would not play him.

Expect Megson to be on his way soon then.

This is what he said when he signed a foreign player for WBA:

"We're going to have to give him time to adjust to a different way of life and to learn the language - but he will be given that time"

 

[Boy Genius]

Expect Megson to be on his way soon then.

This is what he said when he signed a foreign player for WBA:

"We're going to have to give him time to adjust to a different way of life and to learn the language - but he will be given that time"

and I bet he was just talking about a taffy there as well....

 

[indierich06]

Really can't say that it keeps me awake at night but:

Allen appointed staff without prior clearance or authorisation - SO WHAT, WASN'T HE THE CLUB'S MANAGER?

Allen denigrated the young lads by saying they hadn't earned the right to be in the changing rooms (despite winning a small trophy last season) - QUITE RIGHT TOO. THE PONCEY LITTLE FECKERS WERE/ARE WAY TOO BIG FOR THEIR BOOTS.

Allen banned vital staff from the training ground (who have/need constant contact with the players during the working day) LIKE WHO? APART FROM COACHES AND PHYSIOS, WHO ELSE MATTERS?

Allen fell out with an "important" long-serving, non-playing member of staff - IF THIS WAS BIRCH AS I WAS LED TO BELIEVE, FAIR PLAY TO HIM. HE'S NEEDED CHUCKING OUT OF BELVOIR DRIVE FOR YEARS.

Allen bullied members of the playing staff leading to a strong sense of dissatisfaction - GOOD!

Allen caused three senior players to lead a revolt and demand transfers - NOT ONE OF WHOM WOULD HAVE BEEN MISSED.

Allen was rude to and unprofessional with staff - VERY VAGUE. AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, SO WAS MON PRETTY REGULARLY. NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING.

Allen was unprofessional in his dealings with third parties - NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN.

If that's all MM's apologists can come up with, it still stinks.

You're right mate, it's really, really good that the players didn't seem to like or respect the manager - he'll really get the best out of them that way. And if they don't like it, sell them! Brilliant. :icon_roll

I don't understand why people like you are so in love with that stupid mockney cnut. His CV is a ****ing joke compared to Megson and the other managers we were linked with at the time; Megson is already light-years ahead of him in his career and he's only a few years older. Now we have a manager who has got a team promoted from the championship twice as opposed to one who has gotten two lower league teams into the playoffs and then ****ed it up.

These are the cold, hard facts; Megson is the better manager. Probably because he spends his time on the training pitch rather than writing pathetic, needy little posts on the OS to the fans.

This post might seem a little angry... but I'm completely sick of all these idiots. There is 'only one Martin Allen' and he's not at our club anymore, so ****ing well deal with it.

 

[Boy Genius]

You're right mate, it's really, really good that the players didn't seem to like or respect the manager - he'll really get the best out of them that way. And if they don't like it, sell them! Brilliant. :icon_roll

I don't understand why people like you are so in love with that stupid mockney cnut. His CV is a ****ing joke compared to Megson and the other managers we were linked with at the time; Megson is already light-years ahead of him in his career and he's only a few years older. Now we have a manager who has got a team promoted from the championship twice as opposed to one who has gotten two lower league teams into the playoffs and then ****ed it up.

These are the cold, hard facts; Megson is the better manager. Probably because he spends his time on the training pitch rather than writing pathetic, needy little posts on the OS to the fans.

This post might seem a little angry... but I'm completely sick of all these idiots. There is 'only one Martin Allen' and he's not at our club anymore, so ****ing well deal with it.

 

[Jeff]

These are the cold, hard facts; Megson is the better manager.

How exactly are you measuring this 'fact'?

If you're basing it on his record at WBA, that means nothing.
What matters is how good he is now, and how good that is we'll have to wait and see - if MM is prepared to wait long enough for us to find out.

 

[Chrysalis]

A question I want answered is this.

Over recent weeks we have signed strikers and some wingers, but you have now employed a defensive manager who is unlikely to play these players at least on a regular basis. How does this fit in with your promotion ambitions?

 

[homer]

These are the cold, hard facts; Megson is the better manager

Even if that were true (and the point is debatable), it's not really saying much, is it...??

 

[western road]

Going back to the thread.........Wont this meeting by M.M.
lean towards the supporters groups and therefore straight to people who in MHO will not say too much and put forward searching questions, individuals might be passed by, if they are deemed to be akward in there questioning.

 

[homer]

Why the feck would anyone want to go this meeting ?

a) It will be full of deluded sycophants with 'planted' questions allowing MM to come out with some ridiculous sound-bites about getting back where we belong etc. etc.
b) The 'challenging' questions will be rebuffed with a load of spin about how the fans must trust MM/we are fecked without MM/MM is desperate to see us go up and will do everything and anything to achieve it blah blah blah
c) Any hint of 'opposition' will be met with tub-thumping rhetoric about being 'real' fans and ridicule about you are not helping the team etc.
d) The outcome will be a load of Blanderson-led PR shite that highlights all of the positive spin and none of the negativity - and will feed the Serb's rampaging egomania

It's all designed in MMs favour, and it will all be engineered to make him look like a saint, and all who oppose him (or GM) look like complete nutters who should be shunned at every opportunity (or preferably banned from the Walkers altogether)

You will not gain any insight into what has gone on in recent weeks (apart from some heavy hints that Allen was mental, or something)
This is a cynical attempt to boost his position - you will play right into his hands

If you genuinely oppose what is going on, then some poxy meeting, with a pre-determined outcome is not the way to do it

Don't go

 

[Cate Fox]

Why the feck would anyone want to go this meeting ?

a) It will be full of deluded sycophants with 'planted' questions allowing MM to come out with some ridiculous sound-bites about getting back where we belong etc. etc.
b) The 'challenging' questions will be rebuffed with a load of spin about how the fans must trust MM/we are fecked without MM/MM is desperate to see us go up and will do everything and anything to achieve it blah blah blah
c) Any hint of 'opposition' will be met with tub-thumping rhetoric about being 'real' fans and ridicule about you are not helping the team etc.
d) The outcome will be a load of Blanderson-led PR shite that highlights all of the positive spin and none of the negativity - and will feed the Serb's rampaging egomania

It's all designed in MMs favour, and it will all be engineered to make him look like a saint, and all who oppose him (or GM) look like complete nutters who should be shunned at every opportunity (or preferably banned from the Walkers altogether)

You will not gain any insight into what has gone on in recent weeks (apart from some heavy hints that Allen was mental, or something)
This is a cynical attempt to boost his position - you will play right into his hands

If you genuinely oppose what is going on, then some poxy meeting, with a pre-determined outcome is not the way to do it

Don't go

agree 100%

 

[Brown Nose]

You're right mate, it's really, really good that the players didn't seem to like or respect the manager - he'll really get the best out of them that way. And if they don't like it, sell them! Brilliant. :icon_roll

etc

What a load of nonsense made by another loony who has totally missed the point. I couldn't give a toss about MA or Megson. It's nothing to do with them. It's about how our club is run. If you're happy with it, fine. Many fans are not because being a laughing stock is not good. Players and Managers will steer clear of us because of it. Our own players are clearly all over the place as a result of it. We are an embarrassing shambles run by a man who tells us to 'trust him'. I don't. Most people don't. That is the point.

 

[Brown Nose]

Why the feck would anyone want to go this meeting ?

a) It will be full of deluded sycophants with 'planted' questions allowing MM to come out with some ridiculous sound-bites about getting back where we belong etc. etc.
b) The 'challenging' questions will be rebuffed with a load of spin about how the fans must trust MM/we are fecked without MM/MM is desperate to see us go up and will do everything and anything to achieve it blah blah blah
c) Any hint of 'opposition' will be met with tub-thumping rhetoric about being 'real' fans and ridicule about you are not helping the team etc.
d) The outcome will be a load of Blanderson-led PR shite that highlights all of the positive spin and none of the negativity - and will feed the Serb's rampaging egomania

It's all designed in MMs favour, and it will all be engineered to make him look like a saint, and all who oppose him (or GM) look like complete nutters who should be shunned at every opportunity (or preferably banned from the Walkers altogether)

You will not gain any insight into what has gone on in recent weeks (apart from some heavy hints that Allen was mental, or something)
This is a cynical attempt to boost his position - you will play right into his hands

If you genuinely oppose what is going on, then some poxy meeting, with a pre-determined outcome is not the way to do it

Don't go

Totally agree homer. Excellent post.

 

[Ox Fox]

As fringe event on Thursday evening I am organising a burning of effigies of the following:

Peter Taylor
John Elsom
Micky Adams
Chris Makin
Nathan Blake
Jason Jarret
Dave Bassett
Howard Wilkinson
Stephen Hughes

Please feel free to bring an effigy of your own personal favourite contributor to the downfall of LCFC to chuck on, and/or a bottle and nibbles.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Why the feck would anyone want to go this meeting ?

a) It will be full of deluded sycophants with 'planted' questions allowing MM to come out with some ridiculous sound-bites about getting back where we belong etc. etc.
b) The 'challenging' questions will be rebuffed with a load of spin about how the fans must trust MM/we are fecked without MM/MM is desperate to see us go up and will do everything and anything to achieve it blah blah blah
c) Any hint of 'opposition' will be met with tub-thumping rhetoric about being 'real' fans and ridicule about you are not helping the team etc.
d) The outcome will be a load of Blanderson-led PR shite that highlights all of the positive spin and none of the negativity - and will feed the Serb's rampaging egomania

It's all designed in MMs favour, and it will all be engineered to make him look like a saint, and all who oppose him (or GM) look like complete nutters who should be shunned at every opportunity (or preferably banned from the Walkers altogether)

You will not gain any insight into what has gone on in recent weeks (apart from some heavy hints that Allen was mental, or something)
This is a cynical attempt to boost his position - you will play right into his hands

If you genuinely oppose what is going on, then some poxy meeting, with a pre-determined outcome is not the way to do it

Don't go

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