Why we should be protesting against those running our club

[Jenks]

I'm not in a position to know but considering that season ticket access has been pretty much a closed shop for years now, isn't the average age of a ST holder pretty high by now?
Younger people are pretty much shut out &/or priced out. Does the KP resemble a geriatric ward now?
If so that might help explain it. Old gits like me have seen a title win & an FA Cup which has pretty much fulfilled all their dreams so are likely happy to just live off that nostaligia forever & sit in the ground every week with an oblivious warm glow, reminiscing. Its what old gits tend to do with most things.
Just a thought & I might be wrong, but maybe it's a factor.

I’m an old git and you are partly right. I have lived the wonder years and consequently wonder what else is there for me. This is my final year as a STH, not because I’m about to die or owt, but because I think I’ve seen my fill, and it’s time, hopefully, for someone younger. But then you say “ are they priced out?” Unfortunately I think so, yes. I have worked my whole life and can reasonably afford this luxury. Unfortunately I think the price is now too high. All I get are emails asking me to buy this or that. ( and wtf is this shit about not being able to get an autograph now without paying a tenner? Disgusting) The club is all too obviously about making a buck. Make it somewhere else, not from me.

 

[Volpone]

It was embarrassingly, excruciatingly shit in every ****ing way

Rudkin, Ginetta and Volpone will be delighted

I'm not delighted. The only bit I was against was protesting while the game was on. The people around me in the main stand thought the chant was We Are Going Down. They didn't understand it was We Want Rudkin Out. That's how pathetic it was.

 

[H T B]

hmmm

 

[Robin127]

...The people around me in the main stand thought the chant was We Are Going Down. They didn't understand it was We Want Rudkin Out. That's how pathetic it was.

Are the two mutually exclusive?

 

[H T B]

Bunch of entitled pricks, followed by a load of sheep .

 

[SilverFox]

I'm not delighted. The only bit I was against was protesting while the game was on. The people around me in the main stand thought the chant was We Are Going Down. They didn't understand it was We Want Rudkin Out. That's how pathetic it was.

They don’t even sound similar

 

[Miles Away]

I'm not in a position to know but considering that season ticket access has been pretty much a closed shop for years now, isn't the average age of a ST holder pretty high by now?
Younger people are pretty much shut out &/or priced out. Does the KP resemble a geriatric ward now?
If so that might help explain it. Old gits like me have seen a title win & an FA Cup which has pretty much fulfilled all their dreams so are likely happy to just live off that nostaligia forever & sit in the ground every week with an oblivious warm glow, reminiscing. Its what old gits tend to do with most things.
Just a thought & I might be wrong, but maybe it's a factor.

I find the place incredibly grim when I visit on account of all the cotton heads there.

It does not bode well for the future of the club, or indeed the sport.

 

[HFox]

I didn’t go despite my dislike of Ruskin and wanting to change. Largely off the back of the anonymous nature of the Project Reset but then asking people to put their own name to media articles which I was highly cynical of

Little notice as well of four days to shape plans. The lack of a leader talking to friends had a real factor. Then the 14th minute chant, I can’t help but feel for UFS who lead it but barely anyone else joined in. So know it gets connected with them and that’s exactly why the fan groups were right not to put it towards the front of their agenda.

If future protests to work, there has be an understanding of someone being a martyr for it and people have to acknowledge that you are going to upset some. The protest tried to be anonymous and tried to keep the peace. You aren’t going too.

Whether KPFC supporters like it or not, it’s going to be a long, toxic struggle for a year or so.

 

[HFox]

Well that was a waste of everybody's time wasn't it?

I don’t think it was. It got picked up by the media sources. Spoken about on the likes of MOTD, carried by the big media websites

In the post Truth world that’s all that matters. If the banner got on the PL world feed and it got spoken about, that will have gone down like a shit storm at KP Towers.

It’s all about narrative and reputation. Everything in between is noise

 

[HFox]

I find the place incredibly grim when I visit on account of all the cotton heads there.

It does not bode well for the future of the club, or indeed the sport.

Notably yesterday a few fair Arsenal fans amongst it all as well. Similar to Man City v Madrid in the week.

The idolisation at middle management level of Daniel Levy has fully taken hold amongst the clubs who think they belong at the top table

 

[LoopisDeLupis]

Notably yesterday a few fair Arsenal fans amongst it all as well. Similar to Man City v Madrid in the week.

The idolisation at middle management level of Daniel Levy has fully taken hold amongst the clubs who think they belong at the top table

“The Monetization of the Fan”

 

[HFox]

“The Monetization of the Fan”

You just question how much of that milking can occur at ‘provincial’ clubs at our own. Clearly there’s a fine line when you consider four games against mid table London aides haven’t sold out despite being on general sale

 

[Leigh]

I'm not in a position to know but considering that season ticket access has been pretty much a closed shop for years now, isn't the average age of a ST holder pretty high by now?
Younger people are pretty much shut out &/or priced out. Does the KP resemble a geriatric ward now?
If so that might help explain it. Old gits like me have seen a title win & an FA Cup which has pretty much fulfilled all their dreams so are likely happy to just live off that nostaligia forever & sit in the ground every week with an oblivious warm glow, reminiscing. Its what old gits tend to do with most things.
Just a thought & I might be wrong, but maybe it's a factor.

Quite possibly true, but two of the people I mentioned are early-30s so not quite ready for retirement yet.

The (necessary? paranoid?) secrecy about the details of the protest up until the last minute and the lack of clarity of the message also contributed to people not showing up. Most fans will only consume the PR from the club or from national media who mostly still report that we have amazing owners that all the fans love. These people will have no idea about half of the mismanagement that has gone on and to break through to them the message and the reason behind it must be clearer.

The fact that this has been picked up by the media is good but it will be tied in with the on field performances 'win a couple of games and they will all shut up'.

 

[LoopisDeLupis]

You just question how much of that milking can occur at ‘provincial’ clubs at our own. Clearly there’s a fine line when you consider four games against mid table London aides haven’t sold out despite being on general sale

Depends if you have the 'big clubs' visiting.

If we keep up low attendances, you watch - the big clubs will be insisting that unsold seats are made available to away fans

 

[ThaiSweetChilli]

Well that was a waste of everybody's time wasn't it?

Very poorly organised and really quite embarrassing.

I turned up and thought 'oh, this might be something, there are a lot here'. I then waited. And waited. And just before 12, we walked to the ground with the odd song being sung and a couple of flares being let off*

It was piss poor. The banners on the van were a mix of good and awful which didn't help. I'd guess that there were 600-700 in the 'march' and most of us wished we hadn't bothered.

If this was a start, so be it. If this was it, blimey, King Power will be pissing themselves laughing this afternoon.

*Pop - I know you'll be concerned about this terrible criminal behaviour but I can assure you that there were loads of police about and they were totally disinterested in intervening. The only issue was when a little kid picked one up in front of a police officer. I did think I should grab the kid and hand him over asking for him to be removed from his family. Does the fact that I didn't mean I need to be banned?

I'm sure it'll be the start.

Were there any local press covering?

 

[Brown Nose]

I read a statistic that two out of three kids that inherit their daddy's company ruin it.

Led me to read up a bit on how King Power are doing.

It's not a pretty picture. They're loaded up with debt and seem to be shuffling loans and deferring interest payments all over the place. They've been losing money for years now. Just like us.

As we know, they have an incredibly corrupt monopoly but Aiyawatt still appears to be ****ing it up.

The view that LCFC can afford to live massively beyond their means because King Power will cover losses may one day soon end up destroying us.

https://moodiedavittreport.com/airports-of-thailand-sets-the-record-straight-on-king-power-duty-free-concession-relief-report-as-share-price-slumps/#:~:text=Airports of Thailand (AOT) today,over the past five days.

 

[pork pie fox]

I read a statistic that two out of three kids that inherit their daddy's company ruin it.

Led me to read up a bit on how King Power are doing.

It's not a pretty picture. They're loaded up with debt and seem to be shuffling loans and deferring interest payments all over the place. They've been losing money for years now. Just like us.

As we know, they have an incredibly corrupt monopoly but Aiyawatt still appears to be ****ing it up.

The view that LCFC can afford to live massively beyond their means because King Power will cover losses may one day soon end up destroying us.

https://moodiedavittreport.com/airports-of-thailand-sets-the-record-straight-on-king-power-duty-free-concession-relief-report-as-share-price-slumps/#:~:text=Airports of Thailand (AOT) today,over the past five days.

To be fair loads of companies are loaded up with debt, that seems to be the modus operandi these days. That doesn’t mean that they’re doing any good, but being debt-laden seems to be fairly normal these days.

 

[Micky]

How do you actually find anything about the turnover of King Power over the past couple of years?

 

[popillius]

To be fair loads of companies are loaded up with debt, that seems to be the modus operandi these days. That doesn’t mean that they’re doing any good, but being debt-laden seems to be fairly normal these days.

All massive companies are run using debt. Why wouldn't they? The risk is somebody else's then. That has nothing to do with how financially stable they are. Moody's still suggests that they are in a good position;

King Power is considered to be very stable (Moody's Investors Service), indicating a strong financial position with minimal risk of significant changes in the near future; their main source of revenue, the duty-free business, benefits from its close ties to the Thai government, acting as a largely government-sanctioned monopoly.

Moody's has affirmed King Power Capital's credit rating with a stable outlook, signifying confidence in their financial health.

 

[HFox]

https://www.nationthailand.com/business/corporate/40046425

King Power struggling to reward their contract with the airports due to a reduction in revenue post-Covid 19 .

I don't think that part of the story is that worrying; they are well in with the establishment but it's more worrying the story is leaked, running out of friends?