Justice for the 96

[Mawsley]

Finally.

 

[Mawsley]

 

[SJN-Fox]

 

[Motown Fox]

Wow.
Just a pity it took so long to get it to this stage.
What happens to all those that had a hand in all those things that went wrong.

 

[Lako42]

CPS considering bringing criminal charges against high ranking officers.

 

[Rich B]

All steam ahead for the compensation brigade now.

 

[Lako42]

All steam ahead for the compensation brigade now.

Is this actually a dig at the people who have sacrificed their entire lives trying to get justice?

 

[Feriol]

All steam ahead for the compensation brigade now.

Seriously?

 

[bocadillo]

Seriously?

There are many who will think that parts of this verdict are as perverse as the first one. To try to lay the blame at the feet of any one person or group of people is ridiculous. I deplore the cover-up that took place last time but it seems that this verdict has not taken full account of the conditions that applied at the time of the disaster.

 

[Feriol]

There are many who will think that parts of this verdict are as perverse as the first one. To try to lay the blame at the feet of any one person or group of people is ridiculous. I deplore the cover-up that took place last time but it seems that this verdict has not taken full account of the conditions that applied at the time of the disaster.

I was questioning the comment about compensation. It seems to suggest that this is an important consideration for the families of the victims, which anyone who has lost loved ones in tragic circumstances would find offensive.

 

[bocadillo]

I was questioning the comment about compensation. It seems to suggest that this is an important consideration for the families of the victims, which anyone who has lost loved ones in tragic circumstances would find offensive.

Whether or not it will have been an important consideration will be seen in time.

 

[Feriol]

Whether or not it will have been an important consideration will be seen in time.

If they pursue compensation, it doesn't mean that it was their goal all along.

 

[bocadillo]

If they pursue compensation, it doesn't mean that it was their goal all along.

Nor should we be obliged to believe that it wasn't.

 

[Feriol]

It seems as though some people are jealous. Perhaps they wish some of their family had died, then they would have quite a windfall coming.

 

[bocadillo]

It seems as though some people are jealous. Perhaps they wish some of their family had died, then they would have quite a windfall coming.

I'm sure nobody is jealous. Simply wary.

 

[Feriol]

I'm sure nobody is jealous. Simply wary.

I'm not obliged to believe that...

 

[Mawsley]

All steam ahead for the compensation brigade now.

Thank you for your input, Mr MacKenzie.

 

[Motown Fox]

 

[pork pie fox]

Just in case anybody hasn't seen Andy Burnham's speech in Parliament:

 

[Brown Nose]

I think David Conn was in attendance throughout the two years in court. His article is the best I've read on the subject and worth a read for anyone lacking an awareness of the detail:

http://www.theguardian.com/football...and-lies-that-lasted-decades?CMP=share_btn_tw

I remember we were at home to Chelsea on the day of Hillsborough. There was trouble in the crowd that day at Filbert St as there were approximately 10,000 Chelsea fans there. I heard my first rumour and innuendo about the Liverpool fans on the terraces that day.

Anyone that routinely travelled to away matches in the mid to late 80s or, horrifically, even following 1989 for a few more years, witnessed disgusting treatment at the hands of police officers.

We all knew that South Yorkshire and West Midlands forces were the worst, with Nottinghamshire not far behind. They looked at you as though you were vermin, sneered at you, pushed and threatened and laughed at you. They intimidated you with their horses and dogs. They learned these dark arts from the miner's strike and I witnessed many instances of officers breaking the law and loving every moment of it. It helped me to understand how normal people could always be made to behave appallingly.

In 1993 I wrote my dissertation on the subject of the policing of football and many of the themes and conclusions of the trial are in my 23 year old words too. I researched by shadowing police officers at Filbert St and witnessed some horrific conversations between officers about supporters. For almost every officer I encountered back then, football was a wonderful opportunity for overtime, a bit of a skive and the occasional bit of fun teasing and tempting young men into wrong-doing.

My respect and admiration goes to those that fought for justice for so long. They have done their lost loved ones proud.

What this story taught me is to never believe what you're told to believe. It's served me well.