Millwall - 18th Match 2006

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Mr Bocadillo beat up some Bury fans when we played there.

A gross exaggeration of the truth! In fact, whilst approaching a chip-shop on the way back to the station I was surrounded by 3 or 4 of a group of young Bury fans. A couple of them went to kick me without invitation or provocation; I merely grabbed the face of the one that made the most contact and propelled his head backwards until it came into contact with the chip-shop window. His companions quickly dispersed; he followed moments later and I was able to queue for my supper in peace.

Co-incidentally in the reporting of the murder of the 11-year old lad in Bury a week or so ago, a map of the lad's home area was shown. He lived about 100 yards from Gigg Lane and about 200 yards from the chip-shop in question. And we worry about the area surrounding Millwall!!??!!
 
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Ox Fox said:
Ah the good old days at the old Den, last time we played there I got there late due to the trains, and I think Walshy was sent off - can anyone confirm this please?

Both Paul Ramsey and Steve Walsh were sent off there in the third round of the cup in January 1991. We had been winning 1-0 for much of the game, but everything fell apart in the last 5 or 10 minutes and we finished up losing 2-1 with only nine men on the field. We played there twice after that.
 
Brauny Blue said:
Thats the one. I was wandering through Brixton hoping that i'd get out alive. I can't comment on the New Den, but anyone who went to the old one( cold blow lane) deserves a medal.

Nonsense!
 
Brauny Blue said:
Last time i went we lost in a cup tie 2-0 (1985). Feckin dodgy hell hole could do with some anthrax being dropped on it.

I was at that game too and their fans were trying to climb the fences to get at us during the game and at the end when they had won!!!

It was no surprise to me that there was a riot at Luton(shown on the TV now and again in programs about hooliganism) by Milwall when they lost later in the competition (next round I think?)
 
Motown Fox said:
I was at that game too and their fans were trying to climb the fences to get at us during the game and at the end when they had won!!!

It was no surprise to me that there was a riot at Luton(shown on the TV now and again in programs about hooliganism) by Milwall when they lost later in the competition (next round I think?)

Spot on my friend. Which is why i question the provocative one word reply from Bocadillo.
 
webmaster said:
No. That's why I asked what you were doing in Brixton!
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O.K then. We travelled by train down the West side of London crossing the Thames near Putney. We then terminated from mainline at or very close to Brixton. The police then escorted us a short distance unto the underground. But i don't recall getting to New cross because the police made us walk about 2 miles through a dodgy area before reaching the ground. There maybe others who remember it. Its one of the few places i've followed city that i've no great desire to return.
 
Brauny Blue said:
Explain ?

I just don't think Millwall, old or new, is that much worse than anywhere else. There have been some very violent occasions at Leicester and I don't want a medal for going there. When there has been trouble at Millwall, most of the crowd have been unaffected by it.
 
Brauny Blue said:
Spot on my friend. Which is why i question the provocative one word reply from Bocadillo.

I wasn't trying to be provocative. As already explained, I don't think Millwall is all that unusual.
 
bocadillo said:
I wasn't trying to be provocative. As already explained, I don't think Millwall is all that unusual.

put it in perspective for some, how many times have you heard "oh ****, we're going to the Boleyn". are west ham any worse than millwall? or is it purely put down to the media and their favourites?
 
bocadillo said:
I just don't think Millwall, old or new, is that much worse than anywhere else. There have been some very violent occasions at Leicester and I don't want a medal for going there. When there has been trouble at Millwall, most of the crowd have been unaffected by it.

Leicester have played Millwall a few times since i went in 1985 and the games since then have been routine matches with nothing more than league points at stake. I can assure you that whatever happened that night was not the norm from the experiences i've had following city around the country.And because it was the only time i've been there its left a nasty taste for obvious reasons. For some reason or other the thugs associated to Millwall at that time probaly had little interest in football. I can't think of too many times a group of fans have wanted to knock six bells out of us even after they caused a cup shock at the time. The mood was very tense and there was loads of fighting outside the ground after the game. The police seemed to have little control of what was going on,and from my perspective it was a relief to be on the train heading home.
 
The old Den used to be an intimidating place to go, but their new place is OK.

I've seen more trouble at Stoke, Wolves and Birmingham in recent years than I have at Millwall.
 
Brauny Blue said:
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O.K then. We travelled by train down the West side of London crossing the Thames near Putney. We then terminated from mainline at or very close to Brixton. The police then escorted us a short distance unto the underground. But i don't recall getting to New cross because the police made us walk about 2 miles through a dodgy area before reaching the ground. There maybe others who remember it. Its one of the few places i've followed city that i've no great desire to return.

I was on that train,they made us walk for fecking miles during which we passed a Pub called The Henchman and the locals started throwing glasses at us.
i was glad we lost that night.
 
Motown Fox said:
I was at that game too and their fans were trying to climb the fences to get at us during the game and at the end when they had won!!!

It was no surprise to me that there was a riot at Luton(shown on the TV now and again in programs about hooliganism) by Milwall when they lost later in the competition (next round I think?)

Well Luton caused some trouble there last week.
 
Brauny Blue said:
Leicester have played Millwall a few times since i went in 1985 and the games since then have been routine matches with nothing more than league points at stake.

Not quite - we played them in the Cup again in 1991. That was the game in which Ramsey and Walsh got sent off that we were talking about earlier.

And I have an apology to make. I have been at the old Den when there was violence and it has taken your reminding me of the 1985 cup-tie to remember it. I went up to this match with a Millwall-supporting colleague and I do remember that it was a really really cold night. Of course we each went to our own parts of the ground when we got there and arranged to meet back at the car afterwards. You may remember that we were lcoked in afterwards, so he got back to the car ages before I did. It was while he was waiting there that a Millwall crew came along and, thinking that he must be Leicester because all the other Millwall fans had gone home, they gave him a bit of a slap. Not too much - bloody nose and a black eye IIRC. The funniest thing was when he told me that he was glad that he hadn't been hurt more seriously: he was dreading the possibility that he might be hurt bad enough to have had to go to hospital because he was wearing a pair of his wife's tights under his trousers!!
 
bocadillo said:
he was wearing a pair of his wife's tights under his trousers!!

And your all woried about millwall fans :)

all of the old trouble makers have been banned and the membership policy has got rid of most other trouble. all that remains at millwall are chavvy little barstards, which every club has. they are no worse than any other club anymore.
 
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