Boltons Tatics: Fair or Not

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Scarby

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i dont believe that Bolton were right in implying these tatics from free kick positions!! it is in my view a form of cheating!! what do you think.

i believe it should be classed as off-side
 

Scarby

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we did do it!! taggart did it and it nearly worked i still think its taking reading the rule book a bit to far
 

Petrescu

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Fair, no question. I thought it was a good idea and confused us a few times. I think we should do it from now on, we are good from set pieces and i think this will help even more. But it should be someone quicker than Taggart running back! Maybe Bent.
 

Ricey

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Credit to Bolton for exploiting this stupid rule but on many occasions a player WAS offiside and the linesman should of noticed that!
 

Ricey

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Scowcroft said:
Can someone clarify this new FIFA directive?
If you were offside but not interfering, you can step back onside and carry on with out being flagged.

It complicated ;)
 

Scowcroft

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I have noticed Southampton doing this lone before this directive came in. They would put about 5 players miles offisde and they would all run back. I remember last season Southampton benefited from this by scoring against Arsenal.

Obviously its legitimate, but its an absolute farce. Its just going to confuse officials, and all teams will now be employing these tactics. Its changed the whole complexion of football now - If aint broke, why fix it?
 

foxylady

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I'm sorry, but I thought it was a farce!
I want to see a game of football - not a game of chess
Surely if you are in the Keepers vision, you are causing a distraction, thus interfering with play.
If you are not gaining an advantage from standing in that position - then why were they standing there?
 

buzzer_b

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ScarboroughFox said:
we did do it!! taggart did it and it nearly worked i still think its taking reading the rule book a bit to far
Good old Taggart. I actually thought he was taking the piss :lol:
 

Scarby

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Bolton's Sam Allardyce has explained the way in which he exploited the change in the offside law to claim a share of the points against Leicester City.
Bolton used a system of placing players in obvious offside positions but then running back, taking advantage of Fifa's ruling change.

The system caused Leicester all kinds of problems - and the equalising goal came directly from such a set-piece.

"We've had a look at the new regulations and we have got to use them to our benefit," said an apologetic Allardyce.

"I don't like them and I think they detract from the game, but it is not the referee's fault he has to implement them and I blame Fifa.

"They have to change them, but in the mean time we have to use them to our advantage.

"It doesn't add anything to the game and it leave players and fans upset and angry.

"What we have done today doesn't look good to the fans but it makes it hard for the opposition. I think it shows the rule up to be honest."
 

lumberjack

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Referees struggle to get the simplist of off side decisions right. What hope have they got now.
Ok so Taggart is not the fastest to dart from an offside position back to being on side but if Dickov decided he wanted to do it the linesman would not have clue.
Pretty stupid really :roll:
 

Steven

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City Fan said:
The tactics Bolton used are allowed so fair play to them for exploiting it.
Exactly, so why weren't we alive to the possibilities as well :?: :roll: FIFA have got to sort this out and quickly or else there will be riots at football games. If that happens it will be FIFA's fault.
 

Joe_Fox

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foxylady said:
....Surely if you are in the Keepers vision, you are causing a distraction, thus interfering with play.
If you are not gaining an advantage from standing in that position - then why were they standing there?
That's what I thought - it was ok when Nolan (absolute penis that he is) was way "offside", but when another player came and blocked Walker's vision, he is "active" and interferring in play. The linesman should have flagged several times but was obviously very confused and in my honest opinion clueless.

I know that Walker cocked it up, but offside should have been called way before it got that far.

I have lost a lot of respect for Bolton, CHEATING WANKERS
 

Naughty Fox

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Joe_Fox said:
foxylady said:
....Surely if you are in the Keepers vision, you are causing a distraction, thus interfering with play.
If you are not gaining an advantage from standing in that position - then why were they standing there?
That's what I thought - it was ok when Nolan (absolute penis that he is) was way "offside", but when another player came and blocked Walker's vision, he is "active" and interferring in play. The linesman should have flagged several times but was obviously very confused and in my honest opinion clueless.

I know that Walker cocked it up, but offside should have been called way before it got that far.

I have lost a lot of respect for Bolton, CHEATING WANKERS
Sorry Joe it is not cheating, they played within the rule book and fair play to them, but the whole thing stinks because the fine line of being off side has just got finer. Linesman and refs do not have a clue and will constantly make the wrong call and it will be very sad to have a team relegated or win the championship due to a stupid technicality the FIFA have put in halfway through the season.
Unless this rule gets changed it is the death of the beutiful game :cry:
 

Joe_Fox

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The new ruling states that the player is offside or "active" if he is blocking the keeper's or the referee's line of vision. The Bolton player was doing this, therefore he was offside!
 

Naughty Fox

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Joe_Fox said:
The new ruling states that the player is offside or "active" if he is blocking the keeper's or the referee's line of vision. The Bolton player was doing this, therefore he was offside!
I agree Joe, but it is down to the refs opinion and because they are all total tossers the game of football will become a farse. One week a team will get away with it the next they won't and we can all guess who will never get away with it. :roll:
 

Joe_Fox

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Naughty Fox said:
Joe_Fox said:
The new ruling states that the player is offside or "active" if he is blocking the keeper's or the referee's line of vision. The Bolton player was doing this, therefore he was offside!
I agree Joe, but it is down to the refs opinion and because they are all total tossers the game of football will become a farse. One week a team will get away with it the next they won't and we can all guess who will never get away with it. :roll:
Why don't we just scrap the off side rule. :roll:
Also, something I missed out of my "OBSERVATIONS" but nevertheless of huge importance, was the other cheating tactic.

When Bolton had a corner, two of their fat players stood infront of Walker and screened him, but also pushed him back into the net. Now ok, the ball went over but had it been on target from the corner, would the "ref" have allowed the goal? I think he would have, leading to me losing sleep and probably getting wrecked and arguing with someone. These "refs" do not understand the importance of their decisions and I for one am scared.
 

trickytrev

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This topic is not rocket science is it? If you are invloved in a move to try and score a goal how can you not be interfeering? Stupidity!!
 

Bobby Smith

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I think that someone needed to bring this law into the limelight.

If I was a betting man I would have said that Allardyce would be the first one to do it. With his media fed over-inflated opinion of himself it was guaranteed to be him.

What an ungracious tw*t he is.
 

Joe_Fox

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When Bolton had a corner, two of their fat players stood infront of Walker and screened him, but also pushed him back into the net. Now ok, the ball went over but had it been on target from the corner, would the "ref" have allowed the goal? I think he would have, leading to me losing sleep and probably getting wrecked and arguing with someone. These "refs" do not understand the importance of their decisions and I for one am scared.
 

highland fox

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It's FIFA's ruling and like some of their rules in the past it's awful.They must sit there and think up these ideas just to piss everyone off.I'm not one for defending referees but it's virtually an impossible rule to put into practice,theres no use 'belly aching'about Rennie.....although his performance was shambolic to say the least.
 

lazzer

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highland fox said:
It's FIFA's ruling and like some of their rules in the past it's awful.They must sit there and think up these ideas just to piss everyone off.I'm not one for defending referees but it's virtually an impossible rule to put into practice,theres no use 'belly aching'about Rennie.....although his performance was shambolic to say the least.
The thing with rennie is that it is every kin time he was at at filbo or here he has had shocker he was demoted after one of our games and he should have stayed demoted ive had better refs on a sunday morning
on aylestone park
 
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