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One of your favourite sayings, better than a lot of other games, not exactly difficult is it.

What are the positives and what tangible effect are they having on the results and our position?
We'll considering we have apparently been the worst team in the league since October according to some on here and yet we're still not bottom, I'd say something must be having an effect.

I'm done arguing with you, it's like throwing bricks at a trampoline.
 
That doesn't explain why they looked unfit at the start of the season before we'd played a CL match

Quite. We were shagged out after an hour at Wembley whereas Man Utd had loads of running in them. We royally fecked up our pre-season and coaches such as Shakespeare and Reeves have to take as much responsibility for this mess as anyone else.

I know I've said it loads but it's patently true. Vardy at 90% fitness is a piss poor Championship striker. At 100%, he's superb. Same with people like Morgan - when he's fitter, he's substantially better as a player. Not to mention flabby tits Schmeichel.

The failings this season are widespread.
 
We'll considering we have apparently been the worst team in the league since October according to some on here and yet we're still not bottom, I'd say something must be having an effect.

I'm done arguing with you, it's like throwing bricks at a trampoline.

Won't be long before we're in that bottom three. The key is in the performances as much as the results, we don't look remotely capable of putting a few results together. The only thing that has saved us up to now is the fact that there have been a smattering of teams who have been almost as bad as us. Many of them have played the change of manager card and it's having the desired effect at Swansea and Palace. I feel it will likely be us Hull and Sunderland to go but even Sunderland have a knack for scraping through things.

For what it's worth, I agree that today was one of the better performances from us this season. Unfortunately it was still absolute shite....
 
We'll considering we have apparently been the worst team in the league since October according to some on here and yet we're still not bottom, I'd say something must be having an effect.

I'm done arguing with you, it's like throwing bricks at a trampoline.

Getting very close though aren't we?

Try opening your eyes and you might see the trampoline and stop throwing the bricks
 
Won't be long before we're in that bottom three. The key is in the performances as much as the results, we don't look remotely capable of putting a few results together. The only thing that has saved us up to now is the fact that there have been a smattering of teams who have been almost as bad as us. Many of them have played the change of manager card and it's having the desired effect at Swansea and Palace. I feel it will likely be us Hull and Sunderland to go but even Sunderland have a knack for scraping through things.

For what it's worth, I agree that today was one of the better performances from us this season. Unfortunately it was still absolute shite....
How can they be almost as bad but be below us?
 
The squad is pretty thin so I'm not sure he has much choice. And if the first teamers are steaming arseholes the chances are that their poor attitudes stretch further than just the starting eleven anyway. Ranieri is handling our situationwith more dignity than the players deserve. **** knows the temptation to have a pop in a post- match interview must be there.

I'd still rather see us hold on to Ranieri, even if it means relegation. We'd be back eventually (it's what we do) and I think he has earned the right to go on his own terms. My reservation is that we'd find it very difficult to sell on this overpaid lot so we'd have to put up with their stench whilst watching a poorer level of football.

I'd love to see Ranieri keep us up and sell the bastards on, even if it means struggling again next season. I'd trust him to rebuild. His career record is excellent. The not-being-able-to-sell problem would remain though and, unfortunately, I get the impression that the players are influential with the owners. Mind you, they did apparently ask Ranieri if he'd stay on in the event of relegation when they interviwed him, so who knows.

This whole situation is a massive shame. The one thing I'm sure of is that I want a lot of the players who won our only league title out of the club. I feel genuine disgust towards them. It's scarcely believable that it has come to this.
There's not one who looks worth keeping to be fair. What a ****ing shower.
How can they be almost as bad but be below us?
have you heard of the concept of form?
 
RANIERI AT:

VALENCIA

After a bright start, in which the Mestalla outfit picked up 14 out of a possible 18 points and beat Porto to lift the UEFA Super Cup, Valencia went into a slump starting in October. They won only once in 7 games and were knocked out of the Champions League. After a brief revival, Valencia went another 6 games without a win beginning mid-January. Apart from the unpopularity of his four Italian signings Ranieri was criticised for not playing Argentine playmaker Pablo Aimar and for persistent changes to formations and tactics, something resembling his Chelsea days. He was sacked on 25 February 2005 after Valencia were knocked out of the UEFA Cup by Steaua Bucureşti. Valencia were sixth in La Liga at the time of Ranieri's sacking. Ranieri had received £3 million from Valencia for the premature termination of his contract.

PARMA
His first season as manager of Juventus was fairly successful, as he guided the team to a 3rd-place finish just one season after they had been competing in the Serie B, qualifying for the UEFA Champions League, and finishing the season as the joint top-scoring team in the league. After Juventus struggled with injuries, and failed to register a win in seven matches during a two-month period,which left the team in third place after a 2–2 home draw with Atalanta, he was said to have been under real pressure to maintain his job as head coach with many supporters of the club publicly criticising the team and in particular Ranieri. On 18 May 2009, the board sacked Ranieri after Inter were confirmed Champions. He was replaced by youth system chief Ciro Ferrara. Ranieri had also led Juventus to the Coppa Italia semi-finals that season, where they were eliminated by Lazio, who went on to win the title. Juventus finished the league season in second place, one position better than the previous season.

ROMA
Under his guidance, Roma dramatically improved their performances and thrust themselves into the championship battle, reducing the gap between themselves and leaders Inter to only one point after Ranieri's team defeated Mourinho's Nerazzurri in Week 31. Roma then went on to win two more games consecutively and overtook Inter by Week 33, thanks to a 2–1 home win against Atalanta and Inter's 2–2 draw against Fiorentina. This left the Giallorossi on the top of the table with five games remaining. Roma then extended its unbeaten run to 23 games, and also maintained first place in the league table by winning a heated derby against crosstown rivals Lazio, extending the club's unbeaten run to 24 matches. Ranieri was hailed by the press for substituting local heroes Francesco Totti and Daniele De Rossi during half-time, while Roma was losing 1–0; the Giallorossi then won the game 2–1 thanks to two second-half goals from Mirko Vučinić. However Roma would surrender their lead in Serie A and also lose the Coppa Italia final, in both cases to treble-winning Inter. Following Roma's 1–0 defeat in the Coppa Italia final, Inter boss Mourinho publicly mocked Ranieri, as he had reportedly showed his team the film Gladiator before the match, in order to motivate his players.

The following season, Ranieri suffered yet another defeat to Inter in the 2010 Supercoppa Italiana. The season started off poorly for Roma and saw Ranieri clash with team captain Totti, who was critical of being left out of the team and of his coach's defensive tactics and constant changes to the starting line-up. Although the club's form later improved, Ranieri resigned as manager on 20 February 2011, after a poor run of results. His final game in charge was a 4–3 defeat to Genoa, in which Roma surrendered a 3–0 lead.

INTER
On 22 September 2011, Ranieri was named as the new manager of Inter Milan.
A run of seven consecutive Serie A wins in December 2011 and January 2012, including a 1–0 victory over cross-city rivals A.C. Milan, suddenly had them talking of challenging for the title.

Thereafter, Inter Milan suffered a poor run of results (which also saw the departure of Thiago Motta to Paris Saint-Germain F.C.) and their UEFA Champions League hopes were hanging by a thread after being beaten by Olympique de Marseille 1–0 in the round of 16 first leg match.

On 26 March 2012, following a 0–2 defeat against Juventus and after a run of just two wins in their last 13 games and eventual elimination by Marseille in the Champions League, Ranieri was dismissed.

LEICESTER
On 13 July 2015, Leicester City announced Ranieri as the club's new manager on a three-year contract. Leicester City clinched the Barclays Premier League title the following day, when second place team Tottenham Hotspur could only manage a 2–2 draw against Ranieri's former club Chelsea, despite leading 2–0 at half time. This was the first time the club had won the title in their 132-year history. The team's success was described as a "fairytale" and the "most unlikely triumph in the history of team sport"

The start to Ranieri's second Premier League season with Leicester was less successful: by late November, the team had lost six of their opening 12 Premier League matches, conceded 20 goals while only scoring 14, and were in 14th place in table, only two points above the relegation zone; furthermore, Leicester had only won three matches in total, and had only managed to obtain one point away from home.




Anyone see a trend?
 
RANIERI AT:

VALENCIA

After a bright start, in which the Mestalla outfit picked up 14 out of a possible 18 points and beat Porto to lift the UEFA Super Cup, Valencia went into a slump starting in October. They won only once in 7 games and were knocked out of the Champions League. After a brief revival, Valencia went another 6 games without a win beginning mid-January. Apart from the unpopularity of his four Italian signings Ranieri was criticised for not playing Argentine playmaker Pablo Aimar and for persistent changes to formations and tactics, something resembling his Chelsea days. He was sacked on 25 February 2005 after Valencia were knocked out of the UEFA Cup by Steaua Bucureşti. Valencia were sixth in La Liga at the time of Ranieri's sacking. Ranieri had received £3 million from Valencia for the premature termination of his contract.

PARMA
His first season as manager of Juventus was fairly successful, as he guided the team to a 3rd-place finish just one season after they had been competing in the Serie B, qualifying for the UEFA Champions League, and finishing the season as the joint top-scoring team in the league. After Juventus struggled with injuries, and failed to register a win in seven matches during a two-month period,which left the team in third place after a 2–2 home draw with Atalanta, he was said to have been under real pressure to maintain his job as head coach with many supporters of the club publicly criticising the team and in particular Ranieri. On 18 May 2009, the board sacked Ranieri after Inter were confirmed Champions. He was replaced by youth system chief Ciro Ferrara. Ranieri had also led Juventus to the Coppa Italia semi-finals that season, where they were eliminated by Lazio, who went on to win the title. Juventus finished the league season in second place, one position better than the previous season.

ROMA
Under his guidance, Roma dramatically improved their performances and thrust themselves into the championship battle, reducing the gap between themselves and leaders Inter to only one point after Ranieri's team defeated Mourinho's Nerazzurri in Week 31. Roma then went on to win two more games consecutively and overtook Inter by Week 33, thanks to a 2–1 home win against Atalanta and Inter's 2–2 draw against Fiorentina. This left the Giallorossi on the top of the table with five games remaining. Roma then extended its unbeaten run to 23 games, and also maintained first place in the league table by winning a heated derby against crosstown rivals Lazio, extending the club's unbeaten run to 24 matches. Ranieri was hailed by the press for substituting local heroes Francesco Totti and Daniele De Rossi during half-time, while Roma was losing 1–0; the Giallorossi then won the game 2–1 thanks to two second-half goals from Mirko Vučinić. However Roma would surrender their lead in Serie A and also lose the Coppa Italia final, in both cases to treble-winning Inter. Following Roma's 1–0 defeat in the Coppa Italia final, Inter boss Mourinho publicly mocked Ranieri, as he had reportedly showed his team the film Gladiator before the match, in order to motivate his players.

The following season, Ranieri suffered yet another defeat to Inter in the 2010 Supercoppa Italiana. The season started off poorly for Roma and saw Ranieri clash with team captain Totti, who was critical of being left out of the team and of his coach's defensive tactics and constant changes to the starting line-up. Although the club's form later improved, Ranieri resigned as manager on 20 February 2011, after a poor run of results. His final game in charge was a 4–3 defeat to Genoa, in which Roma surrendered a 3–0 lead.

INTER
On 22 September 2011, Ranieri was named as the new manager of Inter Milan.
A run of seven consecutive Serie A wins in December 2011 and January 2012, including a 1–0 victory over cross-city rivals A.C. Milan, suddenly had them talking of challenging for the title.

Thereafter, Inter Milan suffered a poor run of results (which also saw the departure of Thiago Motta to Paris Saint-Germain F.C.) and their UEFA Champions League hopes were hanging by a thread after being beaten by Olympique de Marseille 1–0 in the round of 16 first leg match.

On 26 March 2012, following a 0–2 defeat against Juventus and after a run of just two wins in their last 13 games and eventual elimination by Marseille in the Champions League, Ranieri was dismissed.

LEICESTER
On 13 July 2015, Leicester City announced Ranieri as the club's new manager on a three-year contract. Leicester City clinched the Barclays Premier League title the following day, when second place team Tottenham Hotspur could only manage a 2–2 draw against Ranieri's former club Chelsea, despite leading 2–0 at half time. This was the first time the club had won the title in their 132-year history. The team's success was described as a "fairytale" and the "most unlikely triumph in the history of team sport"

The start to Ranieri's second Premier League season with Leicester was less successful: by late November, the team had lost six of their opening 12 Premier League matches, conceded 20 goals while only scoring 14, and were in 14th place in table, only two points above the relegation zone; furthermore, Leicester had only won three matches in total, and had only managed to obtain one point away from home.




Anyone see a trend?

 
He was pretty good at getting the job on 13th July and then clinching the Premier League the next day.
 
There's not one who looks worth keeping to be fair. What a ****ing shower.

have you heard of the concept of form?
Over 23 games our form is better than theirs. People have been saying we're the worst in the league since October.
 
Leicester boss Claudio Ranieri said: "The referee is the boss, he didn't see it and we lost - in this moment everything is wrong against us, including the decision of the referee.

"We have a problem scoring goals and we conceded a goal and we have to react.

"Our target from the beginning is 40 points and we have to fight from this point."

- http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38727457
 
You are sure that's not from our last defeat? Or the one before that... I'm sure I've heard something about reacting and fighting.

Last season we actually did it, this season it's just words.
 
They should be ****ing ashamed of themselves. At this point I'd rather go down with dignity and play the kids.

This season is ****ing scandalous, they are obviously trying to get Claudio fired. The opposite should happen.

Left their own legacy in tatters. Stupid ****s.
 
Thoroughly deserved win for a team that were better than us in every single department

We are feckin' rubbish all over the pitch, and that's a fact

3 shots on target to 6.
 
If Burnley have 25 attempts against you there are serious problems.

Even more so when you barely look like scoring.

Pretty desperate times now and the fall from Champions is shambolic really.

Which shows our defence did well in some respects. 26 shots and yet they only conceeded from a handball incident. They need to shoulder blame but the wide midfielders need to be better at closing down players within 30yds of our goal and the attackers need to put a couple of chances away.

Would be nice if the midfield or attackers actually got to some of the cleared balls too. Win a header? So 1990's.

If Vardy had put that sitter in or any of the chances he had earlier then we could've been 5 up and they'd have been wary of attacking with everyone.

Morgan is tired but he and Huth are stopping a lot of attacks.
 
I'd still rather see us hold on to Ranieri, even if it means relegation. We'd be back eventually (it's what we do) and I think he has earned the right to go on his own terms.

Not having a go at the poster, but this kind of thinking really does my head in. Yes, be forever grateful for what Claudio did last season, but that is in the past and far from being our greatest ever manager, on the strength of this season he is one of our worst.

Attila the Hun once helped an old lady cross the road.
 
Are people ready to acknowledge the fact that we are in serious ****ing trouble or are we still burying our heads in the sand and pretending everything is okay?

We are utterly pathetic, I'm still waiting to understand what our approach to having the ball is after 23 games.


No quality, no threat, no bollocks

why does it matter if we acknowledge it? we can do F. all about it? It's time some of the players acknoweldged that they are playing shit.
 
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