Campbell

[Kingy_85]

No "here we go again", people had said that his loan finished at the end of the regular season, this story shows this is not the case and was just pointing out the fact.

Unfortunately your about the 5th person to point it out.

 

[Darth Vodka]

is Cambell an emergency loan?

 

[Blue Maniac]

is Cambell an emergency loan?

No.

 

[Darth Vodka]

No.

then the 93 day rule doesn't apply

 

[Hazzman]

Imagine penalities in Cardiff....touching cloth thought that.

 

[Han]

Imagine penalities in Cardiff....touching cloth thought that.

I reckon big Nige will keep a spare substitute til the end so that he can bring on Logan.


Getting excited now.

 

[Blue Maniac]

then the 93 day rule doesn't apply

The 93 day rule applies to short term loans. Since DJ is over 24, it
must be a short term loan.

 

[David Gwilliam]

If we do get promoted I wonder whether DJs contract gets him a payrise.

 

[Blue Maniac]

If we do get promoted I wonder whether DJs contract gets him a payrise.

I'd be surprised if it didn't.

 

[alex]

which is why im hoping forest 'do them' in the semis

I'm not.

 

[Joe_Fox]

me neither

 

[Jeff]

So everyone banging on about the fact there was no way he could play in the playoffs for Blackpool were wrong?

I don't think anyone said there's "no way" he could play in the play-offs. What was said is that they would have to get special permission from the authorities to extend the loan past the 93 day maximum, and I'm surprised that seems to have been allowed.
There have been cases in the past when players haven't been allowed to play in the play-offs because the 93 days is up so I don't see why Blackpool should get special treatment - unless their other strikers are injured.

It could turn out to be a very good bit of business by Leicester though if he helps Blackpool knock out the trees, then can't play against us in the final.

 

[Darth Vodka]

The 93 day rule applies to short term loans

so you're saying he isn't playing in the play offs then?

according to (admittedly ropey!) http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=180755

some Palace fan has got a copy of the rules and they state:-

48.1.1 Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season

making Cambell's an emergency loan

Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan

meaning we can't recall him (as mentioned before)

48.2.7 The cumulative total number of days of all Emergency Loans of one Player to the same Club may not exceed 93 days (unless extended by the Executive in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 48.2.5).

so an emergency loan is 93 days unless overruled. so has The Executive overruled it?

 

[Jeff]

some Palace fan has got a copy of the rules

Some Leicester fan got a copy of the rules too. Hello!

As I mentioned on a previous thread, the rules on the Football League's website are well out of date. I they're the rules quoted on the Palace site.

The rules followed by league clubs are now set by the FA, and they're available from the FA's site. They say pretty much the same thing. Short term loans have a maximum of 93 days, long term loans are for players under 24.

 

[Darth Vodka]

Some Leicester fan got a copy of the rules too. Hello!

oh aye sorry, was googling to try and find the official ones and forgot about your dig early

 

[Jeff]

The FA's 2009/10 handbook can be found here:
http://thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandRegu..._CROP.ashx/FA_Handbook_Full_Proof_NO_CROP.pdf


From page 614:

6.4.4 Short Term Loan Transfers – Loans of Contract Players shall be allowed to or from clubs in
membership of:
• The FA Premier League Limited
• The Football League Limited
• The Football Conference Limited
• The Isthmian Football League Limited
• The Northern Premier Football League Limited
• The Southern Football League Limited
• Any other Leagues which have been authorised by The FA as shown in Appendix [ ].
on such terms and conditions as shall be mutually agreed by the two clubs and the Player
For transfers between Clubs in the same Competition the transfer must be completed on
the National League System Temporary Transfer Form and for transfers between Clubs in
different Competitions the transfer must be completed on FA Form H3.
The Competition shall not approve more than TWO short term loan transfers to or from
any one club including FA Premier League or Football League clubs at any one time.
A Club can have up to a MAXIMUM of 12 Players on short term loan during the season.
The minimum period of a short term loan transfer must be 28 days with a maximum of 93
days in any one season.
Short term loan transfers which become permanent before their expiry date shall not count
against a Club’s quota of days or Players.
A Player whose contract registration is cancelled by mutual consent and immediately reregistered
by the same or a different Club on a Non-Contract basis shall not subsequently
be registered as a contract Player for the same Club within three months of the date of the
cancellation except with the consent of the Board.
On completing the National League System Temporary Transfer Form or FA form H3, a Club
must send the top copy to The FA, one copy to the Company and the third copy to the
secretary of the league with which the Player is registered.
To extend the period of any short term loan transfer a further National League System
Temporary Transfer Form or FA form H3 must be completed, with copies sent as provided
above.
The Player being taken on short or long term loan must sign a Competition contract
registration form, which will be valid for the full period of the loan, including any extension
to the loan period. The standard Competition cancellation form must be used to
prematurely end the temporary transfer period.
The short term transfer of a Player to a Club must be completed and registered with the
Company at least [ ] hours before the scheduled time of the kick-off of the fi rst match in
which the Player is required to play.
If the short term loan transfer is extended, only the Club for whom the Player was originally
registered will be allowed to cancel the agreement at any time within the extension period.
In the case of a goalkeeper, Clubs may mutually agree, if they so wish, to include a recall
clause in the agreement to enable the Club for whom the Player was originally registered to
recall the Player at any time during the loan period. Players, other than goalkeepers, may
NOT be recalled within the fi rst month (i.e. 28 days) of any loan period.
Any short term loan transfer which may terminate after the last day for registrations (Rule
6.5) may be extended for a further period.
The short term loan transfer of a Player must be continuous. If the same Player is taken
on loan at a later date, this second loan period will count against the permitted number of
short term loan transfers.
A Player cannot play for a Club on a short term loan for more than 93 days in any one
Season.
6.4.5 Long Term Loan Transfers shall be for a Playing Season or from the commencement of the
Playing Season to 31st December or from 1st January (the January Transfer Window) to the
end of the Playing Season. The Board may approve loans between Clubs in membership
of the competitions referred to in Rule 6.4.4 in respect of Players aged 24 and under on or
before 30th June prior to the commencement of the Playing Season and provided the loan
is registered by four (4) hours before the Club’s fi rst fi xture of its Playing Season or from
any date between the commencement of a Membership Year to the 31st August in that
Membership Year to any date between 1st and 31st January following or from any date
between 1st and 31st January in a Membership Year to the end of that Playing Season
relative to the Club taking him on loan.
A Player on long term loan may not be recalled except for a goalkeeper or where the Player
is to be transferred permanently by the Club holding his registered contract. A Player other
than a goalkeeper so recalled cannot be permitted to play for the Club holding his
registration after such recall until the end of the Season. Players so recalled can only be
replaced by a further long term loan with permission from the Company. Long term loans
transfers will not count against the number of short term loans in Rule 6.4.4.

 

[beaumontfox]

How could he be an Emergency Loan?

It certainly wasn't described as that when he went there.

 

[Jeff]

How could he be an Emergency Loan?

The football league used to (maybe still do) use the term "emergency loan" for any short term loan, as a way to get around FIFA's transfer window rules.

 

[beaumontfox]

Wouldn't surprise me if we both get to Wembley and somehow he'll be able to play for Blackpool.........

 

[Jeff]

Wouldn't surprise me if we both get to Wembley and somehow he'll be able to play for Blackpool.........

Interesting situation he'd be in then.

He would know if Leicester win he'd get a big pay rise.

He would know if Blackpool win they might want to sign him - but I bet they couldn't offer him the same money he'd get if he was in the Prem with Leicester.

Maybe we could get a message to him before the game to tell him we wouldn't sell him to Blackpool for any price if they get promoted, so he'll want us to win instead.