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Last year I was talking to a very well known figure at the Walkers and he was saying how little pride there was amongst the players. Small things such as not turning up looking smart when meeting "the public" whilst representing the club at offical events. In the past it would have been a jacket and probably a tie, now it is often jeans and t-shirt.
To some it may not seem significant but he felt it was indicative of the general feeling.

They need to take pride in their performance first before worrying about pride in their appearance. ;)
 
They need to take pride in their performance first before worrying about pride in their appearance. ;)

oh I dunno - if they are going to play rubbish at least they can look good. You don't think us female fans really go to watch the football do you? :icon_wink *


I still think their off the field attitude reflects their on the field lack of pride, commitment and discipline.






*(tongue very firmly in cheek, before other females on here pounce on me)
 
I still think their off the field attitude reflects their on the field lack of pride, commitment and discipline.

Spot on, I remember reading a few years ago a statement from Steve Walsh saying that he knew the new gaffer (Brian Little) meant business as the pool table had gone from the training ground the first time they arrived to meet him and that fines were put in place for being un-shaven and not wearing flip flops after coming out of the shower.
Discipline plays a very big part.
 
I have not changed my track from the first post what I am trying to say is
1. the club not so long ago was almost finished
2. 60% of that team is not up to the standard
3. even if RK had outlined some brilliant talent pre season would you as a pro player have taken a risk with city?
4. if the current team is not up to scratch then investment is needed and the only option is mandaric
5. the fact is we are up against it so stop whining and accept the fact that if MM falls through then we are looking at a min 5yrs in wilderness as this current squad IMO is not capable of stringing more than 3 wins together, although I dont think we will be relegated as well.
6. the current board to a certain extent have there hands tied, and it would be morally wrong of them to risk more debt on the club, and to say they are not looking for investment is BLX!
 
I have not changed my track from the first post what I am trying to say is
1. the club not so long ago was almost finished
2. 60% of that team is not up to the standard
3. even if RK had outlined some brilliant talent pre season would you as a pro player have taken a risk with city?
4. if the current team is not up to scratch then investment is needed and the only option is mandaric
5. the fact is we are up against it so stop whining and accept the fact that if MM falls through then we are looking at a min 5yrs in wilderness as this current squad IMO is not capable of stringing more than 3 wins together, although I dont think we will be relegated as well.
6. the current board to a certain extent have there hands tied, and it would be morally wrong of them to risk more debt on the club, and to say they are not looking for investment is BLX!

You are as bad as I am when I am trying to put words into other peoples' mouths.

It's not about them looking for investment - of course they are - they're skint and it's only thing they can do.

The point that is being made is that the board give the appearance of being crap at everything they do - and their weakness runs through the management and is reflected in the players slovernly appearance and performances.
 
6. the current board to a certain extent have there hands tied, and it would be morally wrong of them to risk more debt on the club, and to say they are not looking for investment is BLX!

O.K we all admit that things were bad when this current lot took over, and if we blame them for the present situation then they also should take credit for our last promotion but look at the decisions they have made over the last four years. The gamble on MA's OAP's squad now looks like a sick joke, that season and it's money could have been used as a platform to build some solid foundations, but no they blew it on short term measures and silly wages. Then the appointment of CL with a whole new 'development' or 'lets get the wage bill down and hope for the best' policy, similar to the one adopted by F*rest, a complete U turn! Now RK is scratching his head and keeps mentioning the need for 'experience'. Their hands are tied but they are 100% responsible for that situation and their presence at the club is the reason we do still risk further debt.
 
6. the current board to a certain extent have there hands tied, and it would be morally wrong of them to risk more debt on the club, and to say they are not looking for investment is BLX!

there are shareholders/board members who have a lot more money than their initial investment (at the time of admin), surely what is "morally wrong" is that these same people have watched the club slide badly over the past 2/3 years and have done nothing to try and restructure the club (unless I've missed something), for instance after he left Levein said he couldn't get a decision from 'upstairs' unless 10 people all agreed to it, and that can't be anyway to run a business let alone a football club
 
for instance after he left Levein said he couldn't get a decision from 'upstairs' unless 10 people all agreed to it, and that can't be anyway to run a business let alone a football club

The vast majority of decisions don't go that route.

The board of Directors do agree certain guidlines. If rules are laid down about only offering X years contracts for players in an age range a-b and shorter ones to older players & then CL wanted to offer longer deals, than that has to go back to the original people setting those guidelines.
 
The vast majority of decisions don't go that route.

The board of Directors do agree certain guidlines. If rules are laid down about only offering X years contracts for players in an age range a-b and shorter ones to older players & then CL wanted to offer longer deals, than that has to go back to the original people setting those guidelines.

Does the trust know if any of the employed shareholders (TD for example) will be staying on in any capacity should MM take over?
 
our problems are I think a combination of the following factors.

(a) too much of the first team isnt good enough - down to lack of team funding, lack of reserve team.
(b) those that are good enough dont perform consistently - down to bad management/coaching
(c) bad tactics in games - bad management
(d) the club as a whole feeling down - down to poor leadership at board level and lack of funding and fans feeling negative
 
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