Cooper Out

[Fox Fan]

You're a spoilt brat if you think this.

We were out of the Premier League for 10 years and dropped to League One for the first time in our history before they took over.

Even with masterminding a relegation last year, we still came straight back up.

Things are shit right now, but it's a million miles better even now than before KP took over.

I was there throughout that time. I was at Accrington away in the cup when we scraped through with Fryatt on the wing, but let's call a spade a spade.

Aston Villa nearly went out of business in 2018. They were literally hours away from administration in the championship. Fast forward to the present day and they're playing Juventus in the champions league this week.

AND YET, our team, which benefited from a premier league title, fa cup, CL quarter final and the semi final of the Europa conference league over the past 10 years can't muster a decent defence of our premier league status - it can't be down to anything other than rank incompetence.

But maybe I'm just spoilt

 

[londonfox]

You're a spoilt brat if you think this.

We were out of the Premier League for 10 years and dropped to League One for the first time in our history before they took over.

Even with masterminding a relegation last year, we still came straight back up.

Things are shit right now, but it's a million miles better even now than before KP took over.

So what, KP’s legacy won’t (potentially) be tarnished as long as we’re in any position higher than League One?

Of course they’re tarnishing their ****ing legacy. Remember when we were touted by everyone as a model club. We were the club and ownership model that the likes of Brighton and Bournemouth wanted to be and have. Now we’re being run by an unqualified manchild and his two clown buddies.

Wanting component people in charge of the running of our club does not make one entitled.

 

[FOX Franks]

Just watching motd and I think something has just made sense to me

We go to football matches because we don’t know what’s going to happen. We still go to the games where underdogs play clearly better teams we might witness a surprise result.

Having listened to and watched a couple of games this season, there appears to be pretty much no chance of a surprise result against the big boys. That’s why attendance was shit yesterday.

Everyone on this forum knew - not expected - we were going to lose yesterday. That’s enough for me.

 

[Micky]

Just watching motd and I think something has just made sense to me

We go to football matches because we don’t know what’s going to happen. We still go to the games where underdogs play clearly better teams we might witness a surprise result.

Having listened to and watched a couple of games this season, there appears to be pretty much no chance of a surprise result against the big boys. That’s why attendance was shit yesterday.

Everyone on this forum knew - not expected - we were going to lose yesterday. That’s enough for me.

Spot on. It's boring.

 

[Brown Nose]

It's the inevitability of relegation that I'm struggling with.

Our manager isn't good enough. Our infrastructure isn't good enough. Our squad isn't good enough. Our senior leadership team isn't good enough.

There is zero chance that we finish above the likes of Palace or Wolves.

Everton are the only possibility if they ditch Dyche and go to shit. And, of course, the possible Man City punishment.

However, I'm now even thinking that Ipswich and Southampton might end up above us. We've regressed that much.

It doesn't matter how I look at it now, I can only see it ending badly.

Our only real shot is to make a change early enough for a decent alternative manager to believe he can keep us up. That's our season now. We're just tapping our foot, looking at the goons in the directors box, wondering how long it will take.

 

[homer]

Spot on. It's boring.

No no, it was boring last year - remember when we were scoring loads of goals and winning the league and stuff

That was boring, apparently - this is total football under ‘the entertainer’

 

[Brown Nose]

No no, it was boring last year - remember when we were scoring loads of goals and winning the league and stuff

That was boring, apparently - this is total football under ‘the entertainer’

Two things can be true at once.

It was boring for many fans last season. There were enough supporters that felt that way for it to be a real thing.

I had shuddering moments of traumatic memory triggered by the Chelsea defenders just stopping play yesterday. Chelsea aren't playing like we did but the whole 'killing the clock' thing, that EM admitted doing, was apparent at times.

Anyway, that's an old argument that we really don't need to dig up.

 

[alex]

Simple question. When was the last time you saw Leicester play well? Not glimpses, actually play well over a game.

 

[Brown Nose]

Simple question. When was the last time you saw Leicester play well? Not glimpses, actually play well over a game.

11/02/2023

 

[popillius]

Simple question. When was the last time you saw Leicester play well? Not glimpses, actually play well over a game.

Loads of times last season. Despite the ludicrous claims to the counter.

 

[camberwell fox]

Last season but probably not towards the back end of the campaign as (if I remember correctly). We limped over the line.

 

[The Old Fox]

I didn't expect Leicester to take points yesterday. I expected a larger margin of defeat than we ultimately suffered. I still do not believe that the team put out, or that performance was acceptable. Ayew's injury time penalty was our only shot on target and almost our only attempt.

I was lucky; I was sitting at home watching on a stream: if I had put in effort to get to the ground and paid money for this, I would have been spitting feathers.

I also find Steve Cooper's verbal assault on the referee embarrassing. If he really couldn't see how second rate our performance was, then I cannot see a future under his management.

 

[FOX Franks]

I didn't expect Leicester to take points yesterday. I expected a larger margin of defeat than we ultimately suffered. I still do not believe that the team put out, or that performance was acceptable. Ayew's injury time penalty was our only shot on target and almost our only attempt.

I was lucky; I was sitting at home watching on a stream: if I had put in effort to get to the ground and paid money for this, I would have been spitting feathers.

I also find Steve Cooper's verbal assault on the referee embarrassing. If he really couldn't see how second rate our performance was, then I cannot see a future under his management.

Agreed. Our loss yesterday was definitely not the referee’s fault.

 

[popillius]

Agreed. Our loss yesterday was definitely not the referee’s fault.

It's what managers who know they are bang to rights, do. They start to blame everyone else but themselves. I found it quite refreshing the first couple of times he took responsibility for our poor performances. It got boring when he continued to do it after changing nothing. Now he's blaming the referees, VAR, the black cat who chat on his path, anything that takes the heat from him.

He needs binning and we need Moyes, Van Nistleroy, Gary Megson, Steve Bruce, Ian Holloway or Alan Carr to step in and do a better job.

 

[M17TT C]

Especially as Wilf, and possibly even Soumare, could have been sent off.

It's embarassing having to hear him try and blame the officials after every defeat.

Long-term we are going no-where with Cooper - Soton and Ipswich may well go down too but they will be much better than us long term as they play with an identity rather than just trying not to get beat every week.

 

[SilverFox]

Especially as Wilf, and possibly even Soumare, could have been sent off.

It's embarassing having to hear him try and blame the officials after every defeat.

Long-term we are going no-where with Cooper - Soton and Ipswich may well go down too but they will be much better than us long term as they play with an identity rather than just trying not to get beat every week.

I agree. It was a step back appointing him and it’s hard to be mad at Cooper because that (for once) isn’t ‘on him’.

 

[Micky]

No no, it was boring last year - remember when we were scoring loads of goals and winning the league and stuff

That was boring, apparently - this is total football under ‘the entertainer’

I was bored of us last season. Sorry to disappoint.

 

[alex]

A malaise hangs heavy over the club, reminiscent of the Claude Puel era's dying embers. A sense of defeat permeates and a feeling of inevitability that we simply won't compete. Perhaps judging Chelsea at their current peak is harsh, but against Nottingham Forest, Manchester United, and even more worryingly, Ipswich, Bournemouth, Southampton, and Palace, scraping by felt more like fortune than design.

While desperately wanting Steve Cooper to succeed, a confluence of factors has eroded my faith. Had the anticipated points deduction materialised, perhaps Cooper would have rallied the troops, forged a fighting spirit, and become the architect of our resurgence. It's also likely that recruitment, both players and staff, was hampered by planning for a scenario far rosier than merely eclipsing Derby County's Premier League record.

While ownership and leadership are easy targets, these are the same individuals who secured the coup of Enzo, a masterstroke in hindsight. I suspect they craved a different manager, but the potential punishments arguably hindered their ability to attract a top choice.

The question lingers: has Enzo's brilliance amplified my disappointment in Cooper, or is a once-capable coach simply not suited to this challenge? Yesterday's performance offered a stark answer. Cooper doesn't seem to have instilled belief in this group. Taking a swipe at the referee at the final whistle was a particularly poor display, especially considering our fortunate escape for N'Didi's tackle.

My hope is that the same decisive leadership that brought Enzo to the club is now pulling out all the stops to secure Graham Potter. In my opinion, Potter's talent surpasses much of the public perception. Partnered with the brilliant Billy Reid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Reid_(footballer,_born_1963)) by his side, they could be the spark to reignite this squad's fire.

My fear is inertia. That will be relegation into an EFL that cannot wait to dish out the fines and a very real decline awaits which has very serious ramifications indeed. We need to act now.

 

[SilverFox]

A malaise hangs heavy over the club, reminiscent of the Claude Puel era's dying embers. A sense of defeat permeates and a feeling of inevitability that we simply won't compete. Perhaps judging Chelsea at their current peak is harsh, but against Nottingham Forest, Manchester United, and even more worryingly, Ipswich, Bournemouth, Southampton, and Palace, scraping by felt more like fortune than design.

While desperately wanting Steve Cooper to succeed, a confluence of factors has eroded my faith. Had the anticipated points deduction materialised, perhaps Cooper would have rallied the troops, forged a fighting spirit, and become the architect of our resurgence. It's also likely that recruitment, both players and staff, was hampered by planning for a scenario far rosier than merely eclipsing Derby County's Premier League record.

While ownership and leadership are easy targets, these are the same individuals who secured the coup of Enzo, a masterstroke in hindsight. I suspect they craved a different manager, but the potential punishments arguably hindered their ability to attract a top choice.

The question lingers: has Enzo's brilliance amplified my disappointment in Cooper, or is a once-capable coach simply not suited to this challenge? Yesterday's performance offered a stark answer. Cooper doesn't seem to have instilled belief in this group. Taking a swipe at the referee at the final whistle was a particularly poor display, especially considering our fortunate escape for N'Didi's tackle.

My hope is that the same decisive leadership that brought Enzo to the club is now pulling out all the stops to secure Graham Potter. In my opinion, Potter's talent surpasses much of the public perception. Partnered with the brilliant Billy Reid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Reid_(footballer,_born_1963)) by his side, they could be the spark to reignite this squad's fire.

My fear is inertia. That will be relegation into an EFL that cannot wait to dish out the fines and a very real decline awaits which has very serious ramifications indeed. We need to act now.

The EFL will be delighted to **** us over. Delighted.

 

[terrysopinion]

Who do we want that is available for next manager to replace Cooper? Not Potter!

COOPER OUT AND TAKE WOUT FAES WITH HIM!