Disillusioned

[Joe_Fox]

Well, that won't come as much surprise to any of you I'm sure - I've been disillusioned for a long time now - I blame, amongst other things, TV, the government, the weak tomato sauce in alphabetti, an irrational fear of Christa Ackroyd of BBC Look North news.

Since the appointment of Gary Megson as the new Leicester City manager, I have now become even more disillusioned and also now completely disillusioned with Leicester City FC. My perpetual question is this: What the funk is going on behind the scenes at the club?

It's become clearly clearly obvious that the people in authority at the club are very keen to lie, be extremely economical with the truth or just fail to disclose anything of relevance to anyone who cares. Maybe this is because they are scared of being lynched by the tyrant at the helm. Maybe their jobs have become so insecure that no-one dares step out of line for fear of the chop - and who can blame them?

Leicester City are at a critical point of their existence. It's either going to go the right way or the wrong way and if the past few months have been anything to go by, it's the wrong way that looks the most likely.

The chairman is clearly is as impatient as a constipated woman who's recently scoffed her annual dose of laxatives and he wants results. My question is whether he wants the results for the greater good of Leicester City or whether he wants them to claim a personal victory (and of course line his already well lined pockets a little bit more). Who knows, but I think people will agree that quick 'fixes' won't fix a problem for long.

The problem has deep roots. To solve them needs deep thought and as I'm now disillusioned, I can't be bothered to give such a problem the thought it needs.

I hope any fan who is still very much in love and associated with the club will strive to ask the questions that need asking, probe deeply and thoroughly and finally get to the bottom of what seems to be an inherent problem at the club.

Cheers.

Joe_Fox

 

[EMC Fox]

Blimey.. most of that made sense!

 

[drew]

Probably copied and pasted.

 

[SwedeFox]

Well said I suppose, and I guess we can't hide from it: This club has major problems. I just hope we can sort it out without going into administration or drop a few divisions.

 

[spionfox]

My question is whether he wants the results for the greater good of Leicester City or whether he wants them to claim a personal victory (and of course line his already well lined pockets a little bit more).

Does it matter seeing as both we and he will be happy if we achieve success?

 

[Brauny Blue]

Who has pinched Joe's username

 

[Bobby Smith]

In an attempt to become successful again we have changed managers, coaches, we've tried old players then young ones, tried a singing section, called out players names b4 kick-off, changed the music, changed the owner, tried new pies, I've swapped seats, we've shortened the pitch, widened it, then put it back, watered the pitch, introduced a multiball system, sold cheap tickets, given them away, gone 4-4-2, 5-3-2, 3-5-2 & 4-3-3 and tried a few different kits on varying years cycles.

You could be right Joe, surely we could at least have a go at thickening up the tom sauce in the alphabetti.

 

[alex]

Vote JF you tossers....

 

[Micky]

In an attempt to become successful again we have changed managers, coaches, we've tried old players then young ones, tried a singing section, called out players names b4 kick-off, changed the music, changed the owner, tried new pies, I've swapped seats, we've shortened the pitch, widened it, then put it back, watered the pitch, introduced a multiball system, sold cheap tickets, given them away, gone 4-4-2, 5-3-2, 3-5-2 & 4-3-3 and tried a few different kits on varying years cycles.

You could be right Joe, surely we could at least have a go at thickening up the tom sauce in the alphabetti.

What about playing Bernie at left back.

 

[Joe_Fox]

In an attempt to become successful again we have changed managers, coaches, we've tried old players then young ones, tried a singing section, called out players names b4 kick-off, changed the music, changed the owner, tried new pies, I've swapped seats, we've shortened the pitch, widened it, then put it back, watered the pitch, introduced a multiball system, sold cheap tickets, given them away, gone 4-4-2, 5-3-2, 3-5-2 & 4-3-3 and tried a few different kits on varying years cycles.

You could be right Joe, surely we could at least have a go at thickening up the tom sauce in the alphabetti.

:icon_lol: A beautiful response mate, top draw and like Alex so consistently says vote Joe_Fox you tossers!

 

[Redditch Fox]

My question is whether he wants the results for the greater good of Leicester City or whether he wants them to claim a personal victory (and of course line his already well lined pockets a little bit more). Who knows, but I think people will agree that quick 'fixes' won't fix a problem for long.

Joe_Fox

I don't care if he is mainly interested in "a personal victory" and I would welcome a quick fix - the quicker the better.

The problems are deep seated but hardly complicated and are as follows: we don't seem to be able to attract a quality manager anymore or alternatively we are making wrong choices and secondly we keep signing mainly poor quality players so we overlay one set of mediocrities over the last set of mediocrities. Somehow both these cycles need to be broken.....or things will never improve.

 

[Virkie Fox]

Aren't we just in the same situation as about 95% of clubs outside the Premier League (i.e. we'd like to get there but have very little chance at the moment)? Just a fact of life that unfortunately we might have to get used to. With the parachute payments as they are now, I wouldn't be surprised if promotion and relegation from the Premier League/Championship was contested by Watford, Sheffield United, West Brom, Reading, Wigan, Sunderland, D***y, Charlton, Birmingham etc for the next ten years. Milan has some money, and we're all grateful for it I'm sure, but he'd need to put about £25 million each year into LCFC just to keep up with those mentioned above.

We were spoiled under Martin O'Neill - for most of our history we've been a yo-yo club that has achieved very little, like the vast majority of clubs in England. That's just the way it is. :icon_cry:

 

[DesertFox]

You complete pessimist Virkie Fox! I for one expect nothing less than the Champion's League trophy in the Filbo Way cabinet by May 2010 at the very latest.

 

[Matt_B]

Aren't we just in the same situation as about 95% of clubs outside the Premier League (i.e. we'd like to get there but have very little chance at the moment)? Just a fact of life that unfortunately we might have to get used to. With the parachute payments as they are now, I wouldn't be surprised if promotion and relegation from the Premier League/Championship was contested by Watford, Sheffield United, West Brom, Reading, Wigan, Sunderland, D***y, Charlton, Birmingham etc for the next ten years. Milan has some money, and we're all grateful for it I'm sure, but he'd need to put about £25 million each year into LCFC just to keep up with those mentioned above.

We were spoiled under Martin O'Neill - for most of our history we've been a yo-yo club that has achieved very little, like the vast majority of clubs in England. That's just the way it is. :icon_cry:

Excellent post

 

[Real Sharapova]

Dear disillusioned, a quick answer to your problems - just top yourself.

 

[Joe_Fox]

Ok, thanks for that.

 

[Real Sharapova]

Ok, thanks for that.

No problem, pleased to be of help.

 

[The Old Fox]

I don't care if he is mainly interested in "a personal victory" and I would welcome a quick fix - the quicker the better.

The problems are deep seated but hardly complicated and are as follows: we don't seem to be able to attract a quality manager anymore or alternatively we are making wrong choices and secondly we keep signing mainly poor quality players so we overlay one set of mediocrities over the last set of mediocrities. Somehow both these cycles need to be broken.....or things will never improve.

The position is surely the classic Catch-22. We cannot attract the right calibre of manager/player because of our lowly league status. We cannot improve our lowly league status due to the poor calibre of manager/player that we can attract.
The only way to break out of that cycle is to get an up and coming manager - viz. another Martin O'Neill and build upon the best of the players coming through from our excellent academy; adding the right players in the twilight of their career for experience.
If one agrees with this analysis, then we seem to be heading in a diametrically oposite manner. Martin Allen may have been the wrong man, but he is the correct type of manager and the peppering of new signings needs to be replaced with a carefully considered selection.

 

[From Gradel to Grave]

The position is surely the classic Catch-22. We cannot attract the right calibre of manager/player because of our lowly league status. We cannot improve our lowly league status due to the poor calibre of manager/player that we can attract.
The only way to break out of that cycle is to get an up and coming manager - viz. another Martin O'Neill and build upon the best of the players coming through from our excellent academy; adding the right players in the twilight of their career for experience.
If one agrees with this analysis, then we seem to be heading in a diametrically oposite manner. Martin Allen may have been the wrong man, but he is the correct type of manager and the peppering of new signings needs to be replaced with a carefully considered selection.

An aside but surprised at this from you Diken. You're obviously a man of letters but your now on a very long list of people who misuse the term catch 22.

What you're describing is a vicious circle. Not catch 22.

 

[newtonfox]

:icon_lol: A beautiful response mate, top draw and like Alex so consistently says vote Joe_Fox as im a tossers!

Dont be so hard on yourself joe