Fox Fan
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Dude why would the Leeds players be able to hear what he said?
Im not certain they did but if thats what hes saying...
Doobs doesn't like Tiatto
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Im not certain they did but if thats what hes saying...
Melton Fox
Dancing Queen
I know for a fact they didn't
LS6_Fox
Active Member
I think you may be right, if they did they have incredible hearing
Find some of the attitudes on here quite alarming. Either dismissing that he could have made such a remark (you don't know him, he could be a complete racist c**t) or worse, that if he made the remark it doesn't really matter.
If it turns out he has, I hope he gets severly punished. To be honest, wouldnt be bothered if he never played for us again.
If it turns out he has, I hope he gets severly punished. To be honest, wouldnt be bothered if he never played for us again.
Melton Fox
Dancing Queen
As I put in post 19 above, if he did say something, then he should be dealt with accordingly. You'll find most people on here echo this sentiment.
Lets wait fior the evidence and the verdict before we start calling each other.
Bilborough Fox
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Could have just been a reaction to him being called a Aussie C**t. Maybe Dubberry didn't hear that or ignored it. Must admit it's only what I've been told by someone at that end. So don't take as fact,but if it goes further they did mention that they were thinking of making a complaint.
Duberry and Diao need to inform the FA of what was said, with testimonials from the alleged witnesses on both teams:
If it proves that Tiatto used racist taunts then he should be banned for as many games as the FA rules allow, and fined as much as the club rules allow for. and stripped of any of the captaincy remit he still might have at Leicester (is he still 'club' captain)
However, if nothing is proven, or no complaint is made, Duberry should receive exactly the same punishment as would have been metered out to Tiatto.
Bottom Line: calling someone a bl*ck whatever or an aussie c*nt is EXACTLY THE SAME THING. Both are racially discriminative, one being no more or less serious than the other.
AND making a public comment calling someone a racist is SLANDER unless you are prepared to offer provable evidence.
If it proves that Tiatto used racist taunts then he should be banned for as many games as the FA rules allow, and fined as much as the club rules allow for. and stripped of any of the captaincy remit he still might have at Leicester (is he still 'club' captain)
However, if nothing is proven, or no complaint is made, Duberry should receive exactly the same punishment as would have been metered out to Tiatto.
Bottom Line: calling someone a bl*ck whatever or an aussie c*nt is EXACTLY THE SAME THING. Both are racially discriminative, one being no more or less serious than the other.
AND making a public comment calling someone a racist is SLANDER unless you are prepared to offer provable evidence.
Lako42
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i fecking would, seeming as hes the only midfielder at the entire club with any ****ing balls. plays his heart out every game and more often than not makes a difference when all we have is the most under achieving midfield in the league e.g. stoke
Motown Fox
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Isnt the fact that the team is from Stoke enough of an insult?
Perhaps Tiatto called him a Black Country wa^>£^ and Doobs took it as an offence against himself?
Perhaps Tiatto called him a Black Country wa^>£^ and Doobs took it as an offence against himself?
drew
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http://www.worldfootballers.com/foo...verpool-midfielder-racially-abused-15719.html
That's disgusting, they are actually making Tiatto out to be guilty before any proof or evidence has been revealed.
If he did say something why hasn't Diao come forward, or is it Diao isn't so innocent.....
That's disgusting, they are actually making Tiatto out to be guilty before any proof or evidence has been revealed.
If he did say something why hasn't Diao come forward, or is it Diao isn't so innocent.....
Naughty Fox
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I think Pipes was pointing out we were playing Stoke so Leeds players must have fecking good hearing.:icon_wink
Lboro fox
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http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.u...ts=yes&more_nodeId2=158326&contentPK=15833598
FA TO QUIZ DUBERRY OVER ALLEGED RACISM COMMENT More Headlines | Back to home page 2 readers have commented on this story. Click here to read their views.
09:40 - 02 November 2006 Stoke City skipper Michael Duberry is to be quizzed by the Football Association after he accused Leicester's Danny Tiatto of racially abusing the Potters' Senegalese midfielder Salif Diao.Duberry claims Tiatto called Diao a French c*** when the Australian defender and Stoke's loan signing from Liverpool clashed during Tuesday's Championship match at the Walkers Stadium.
He said: "It wasn't a black or white remark, there was no mention of colour, but it's still racism.
"I'm willing to speak out because we all wear the badge to kick it out. We are trying to stamp out that sort of thing.
"Tiatto knows what he said. He should be disgusted. He should have been sent off for the comment."
The FA revealed yesterday that referee Graham Laws made no reference to the incident in his match report, meaning no further action will be taken unless an official complaint is lodged by Stoke or the players concerned.
"Anyone with information in such incidents should bring them to our attention so that any appropriate disciplinary action can be taken," said an FA spokesman.
However, Duberry has already said he does not intend to make a formal complaint to the FA, while Tiatto and officials from both Leicester and Stoke City were unavailable for comment yesterday.
Diao has also declined to talk about the incident which comes just days after all English clubs took part in the ongoing Professional Footballers' Association campaign to kick racism out of football.
Even though the alleged slur made no reference to colour, PFA assistant chief executive Bobby Barnes said the term would still be considered racist and treated as such if a complaint was made.
The 43-year-old former West Ham winger, a key figure in the PFA's anti-racism programme, said: "This is a very difficult situation as there has been no formal complaint, so we are just talking about ifs. But if this incident did take place then it would be taken very seriously.
"A term does not have to just mention colour to be racist and if this statement was true then it would be considered racist."
Barnes admitted that derogatory terms are part and parcel of football games, but there was a line that should not be crossed. He hoped that if the incident did occur then Tiatto would be regretting it.
However, Barnes added: "Nobody has heard Danny Tiatto's side of the story.
"Football is a passionate game and in the heat of the moment players say things they do not necessarily mean.
"There is always going to be sledging in sport, but we can't accept abuse against race, colour or creed."
FA TO QUIZ DUBERRY OVER ALLEGED RACISM COMMENT More Headlines | Back to home page 2 readers have commented on this story. Click here to read their views.
09:40 - 02 November 2006 Stoke City skipper Michael Duberry is to be quizzed by the Football Association after he accused Leicester's Danny Tiatto of racially abusing the Potters' Senegalese midfielder Salif Diao.Duberry claims Tiatto called Diao a French c*** when the Australian defender and Stoke's loan signing from Liverpool clashed during Tuesday's Championship match at the Walkers Stadium.
He said: "It wasn't a black or white remark, there was no mention of colour, but it's still racism.
"I'm willing to speak out because we all wear the badge to kick it out. We are trying to stamp out that sort of thing.
"Tiatto knows what he said. He should be disgusted. He should have been sent off for the comment."
The FA revealed yesterday that referee Graham Laws made no reference to the incident in his match report, meaning no further action will be taken unless an official complaint is lodged by Stoke or the players concerned.
"Anyone with information in such incidents should bring them to our attention so that any appropriate disciplinary action can be taken," said an FA spokesman.
However, Duberry has already said he does not intend to make a formal complaint to the FA, while Tiatto and officials from both Leicester and Stoke City were unavailable for comment yesterday.
Diao has also declined to talk about the incident which comes just days after all English clubs took part in the ongoing Professional Footballers' Association campaign to kick racism out of football.
Even though the alleged slur made no reference to colour, PFA assistant chief executive Bobby Barnes said the term would still be considered racist and treated as such if a complaint was made.
The 43-year-old former West Ham winger, a key figure in the PFA's anti-racism programme, said: "This is a very difficult situation as there has been no formal complaint, so we are just talking about ifs. But if this incident did take place then it would be taken very seriously.
"A term does not have to just mention colour to be racist and if this statement was true then it would be considered racist."
Barnes admitted that derogatory terms are part and parcel of football games, but there was a line that should not be crossed. He hoped that if the incident did occur then Tiatto would be regretting it.
However, Barnes added: "Nobody has heard Danny Tiatto's side of the story.
"Football is a passionate game and in the heat of the moment players say things they do not necessarily mean.
"There is always going to be sledging in sport, but we can't accept abuse against race, colour or creed."
Durham Fox
El Dude Brother.
How pathetic
Melton Fox
Dancing Queen
Knowing the context of that debarcle we witnessed that night, he probably overheard the crowd singing "Who's the Wanker in the black" and misconstrued what we were singing
Yorkshire Vixen
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:icon_lol:
Steven
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So how does calling someone a 'French ****' fall into that category. What happens as well if he uses the defence that he was merely stating a fact.
A fact can never be racist. As far as I am concerned then 'Doobs', :icon_roll , is an English ****.
Melton Fox
Dancing Queen
By which logic, "Black Bastard" isnt racist. Fact = A bastard that happens to be blackSo how does calling someone a 'French ****' fall into that category. What happens as well if he uses the defence that he was merely stating a fact.
Darth Vodka
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boils down to this then:-
is calling someone a "french c_nt" racist.... ?
it's xenophobic, but i wouldn't say it was racist, surely the whole idea of race is it's about colour!
to say "There was no mention of colour, but it's still racism." is a complete f_cking oxymoron
is calling someone a "french c_nt" racist.... ?
it's xenophobic, but i wouldn't say it was racist, surely the whole idea of race is it's about colour!
to say "There was no mention of colour, but it's still racism." is a complete f_cking oxymoron
Darth Vodka
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By which logic, "Black Bastard" isnt racist. Fact = A bastard that happens to be black
black=colour
france=country
colour => racism
country => xenophobism
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