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What do we reckon?
Play him from the start? Stick him on the Bench? Get rid of Him?

I think he just encourages us to play the long ball whenever he is in the team be it at the back or up front.Wasn't he brought into the game by John Beck at Cambridge? would explain a lot.I think MDV gets a lot of criticism whilst Dublin gets very little.Yeah I know he's played at the back quite a bit but when playing up front he 's hardly been prolific for us in front of goal.
 
well he is too old of a fruit for my picking

and put henderson for douglas

why did we buy douglas, he is an old fossil that seems never to get blamed for the fluke goals and the "not his faults" goal. Replace him for henderson imo
 
He has his good points, he is a leader on the pitch and directs the young uns and organises well. On the negative he does play the ball long from the back. I also don't rate him greatly up front. He wins little more than MDV and when he does his headers are misdirected. We have better players potentially.
 
Think he can still do a decent job for us at the back and good to have a experienced player amongst the younger ones. However, bag of pants up front, too slow and needs too many chances before he converts one!
 
Keep him on the bench. He can "play" defence or upfront, so he's worth having with our small squad as backup. But he shouldn't be playing as often as he is.

As I said before, when he plays at the back he hoofs it up front, and when he plays upfront everyone else hoofs it to him! Neither work!

He leads the team well, but doesn't play well. I think his experience is of use to players in training, but I don't rate him as a player.


And I still can't understand why De Vries gets so much stick. He isn't supposed to be our out and out goalscorer, and his tally so far this season isn't too bad at all for someone who's main purpose is to hold the ball up and and try and get it to other people. It's not his fault no one else can score! De Vries is our top scorer, and set up Elvis' goal the other day..
 
Against QPR Dublin played two great 50 yard passes from left back to right wing to the player's feet. But if you want to call it 'hoof ball' !?

He is also the only one currently that appears to be able to rise in the box from set pieces and get a header towards goal.

His organising and motivating skills on the pitch have already been acknowledged, so why are some people saying he is crap because he is older?

To reverse a metaphor - 'If he is good enough, he is young enough'!

I applaud CL giving chances to our young talent such as Stearman, Sheehan, Chambers and Wesolowski, but if you could win a league with kids, why are Chelsea, Arsenal and the rest using their 'old boys' for the backbone of their teams?
 
Mike - True Blue Tinter said:
His organising and motivating skills on the pitch have already been acknowledged, so why are some people saying he is crap because he is older?

Not at any stage am I questioning his age (his age has little to do with his displays over his time with our club!), and in many ways, you are correct in what you say regarding his "organising and motivating" abilities. The point I am trying to convey is all is not as it seems with DD - he is not the die-for-the-cause local hero he likes to portray himself as.
 
Mike - True Blue Tinter said:
I applaud CL giving chances to our young talent such as Stearman, Sheehan, Chambers and Wesolowski, but if you could win a league with kids, why are Chelsea, Arsenal and the rest using their 'old boys' for the backbone of their teams?

man utd????
 
Mike - True Blue Tinter said:
Against QPR Dublin played two great 50 yard passes from left back to right wing to the player's feet. But if you want to call it 'hoof ball' !?

He is also the only one currently that appears to be able to rise in the box from set pieces and get a header towards goal.

His organising and motivating skills on the pitch have already been acknowledged, so why are some people saying he is crap because he is older?

To reverse a metaphor - 'If he is good enough, he is young enough'!

I applaud CL giving chances to our young talent such as Stearman, Sheehan, Chambers and Wesolowski, but if you could win a league with kids, why are Chelsea, Arsenal and the rest using their 'old boys' for the backbone of their teams?

I think this is the only reply on this thread that makes any sense. Dublin changed the game when he came on last night and i for one would rather have him up front than at the back. He won about 98% of the balls in the air, ok this is promoting "hoof" tactics but we seem to do it when De Vries is on the pitch the only difference is Dublin wins the ball.

And for some unknown reason people are still defending De Vries. Did anyone else notice an ironic cheer when he got subbed and i dont think that was all because of Dublin coming on. De Vries did have a couple of nice touches last night but strikers are paid to score so i would much rather him put a bullet header in the back of the net than lay off neat passes.
 
BOB HAZELL said:
Not at any stage am I questioning his age (his age has little to do with his displays over his time with our club!), and in many ways, you are correct in what you say regarding his "organising and motivating" abilities. The point I am trying to convey is all is not as it seems with DD - he is not the die-for-the-cause local hero he likes to portray himself as.

Sadly these detract him from actually doing any defending, although he is better now stewart is too far away too shout at. Bench at best for me.
 
He does a job. Plus we arent getting that many crosses into the box this season so Dublin isnt getting the ball where he needs it when he has played up front.

At the back he is solid and does a cracking job when called on. I would play him and Eric at the back if Dublin was able to play two games a week, which he isnt.

Also I believe he offers a lot in terms of experience and support in the dressing room. I cant Wilcox, Tiatto or Rab offering this to the younger players.
 
webmaster said:
You must have been at a different match to me if you think he changed the game. He may have won a few more headers, but he was no more effective than MdV was.


In a way I can see what hes saying. Dublin certainly didnt change the game but the game changed somewhat around the time of his introduction.
 
webmaster said:
You must have been at a different match to me if you think he changed the game. He may have won a few more headers, but he was no more effective than MdV was.

You have to be joking dont you?? I can only recall him losing out in one arial challenge. He also nearly scored at the end from that cross shot. The thing is about Dublin he has the experience to know that he can use his strength to hold off defenders so he can pick a pass or win a header.
Some of his headers he just held off the defender and so didnt need to jump. When De Vries was on the pitch half the time the ball was pumped forward to him and came straight back. He had a good chance in the second half which was unlucky but was too slow to react to the rebound.


I just dont understand why a lot of people on here defend him so much. He may be top scorer but he will never be a consistant goal scorer. Some others complain about people phoning in to RL after the match to slate him but to be honest they are saying it as it is. Im sorry but we will not get to the play-offs with him playing in attack. There are plenty more options.
 
Dublin didnt impress me the start of last season, second half he improved looked better maybe because he was so shite before.

This season he seems like he plods along, just doing the stuff when need be. Basically dead wood.
 
Yes but you dont see the other side do you. You just see his performances on the pitch. CL didnt purely keep Dublin for footballing ability alone you muppet! If you think that then you must be stupid.

Dublin isnt mobile thats correct and he is no where near the player he once was but we need him. Face facts sometimes in games we will have to pump it up field. Our other strikers are not capable of playing this way, therefore we need dublin as he offer a different option.

Plus hes two players in one something we need on the budget.
 
PONTUS KAAMARK said:
Face facts sometimes in games we will have to pump it up field.
But why 95% of the time? Because CL wants to play it that way, we had some lovely moves down the right flank yesterday, and the crowd showed their appreciation in not playing hoofball. I hope CL was listening.
 
MKFox said:
But why 95% of the time? Because CL wants to play it that way, we had some lovely moves down the right flank yesterday, and the crowd showed their appreciation in not playing hoofball. I hope CL was listening.

Well it wasnt 95% of the time, Dion only played half and hour tops.

Yes that is true but the aim of the game was to get the ball inthe net.CL obviously felt that that wasnt going to happen playing football so he did what he felt was right and added some fresh impitus. We did look like scoring after Dions introduction.

The other major factor was MDV fitness I doubt he coud have carried on and after he missed that great chance cl felt the need to change it.
 
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