F1 2011 Season

[Durham Fox]

Anyone apart from me looking forward to the new season?

A few of the new cars have been launched:

Sauber

Lotus

Ferrari

 

[fcukcov]

Which Lotus?:icon_wink

I'm looking forward to it. These new rear wings could be interesting and will hopefully help with overtaking.

 

[Durham Fox]

Which Lotus?:icon_wink

I'm looking forward to it. These new rear wings could be interesting and will hopefully help with overtaking.

Personally I think they are a bad move, especially if they create artificial overtaking.The thing that makes F1 interesting to me is the driving skill and engineering achievements required to make it the pinnacle of motorsport. Overtaking becomes memorable because it doesn't happen every lap like NASCAR. Lewis Hamilton performed something like 80 passes last season which IMO is enough.

 

[fcukcov]

Personally I think they are a bad move, especially if they create artificial overtaking.The thing that makes F1 interesting to me is the driving skill and engineering achievements required to make it the pinnacle of motorsport. Overtaking becomes memorable because it doesn't happen every lap like NASCAR. Lewis Hamilton performed something like 80 overtakes last season which IMO is enough.

Hmmm on some tracks though it becomes too much of a procession and we don't want to see that. I wonder how some of the other top drivers would compare to Lewis in terms of overtakes, specifically the red bull boys.

 

[Durham Fox]

Hmmm on some tracks though it becomes too much of a procession and we don't want to see that. I wonder how some of the other top drivers would compare to Lewis in terms of overtakes, specifically the red bull boys.

Agreed, theres a few tracks where overtaking is almost impossible. Hungary, Abu Dhabi and Valencia spring to mind. The answer to me is to change the circuit layouts rather than alter the cars which are providing good entertainment at 90% of the races.

 

[Durham Fox]

The new other Lotus (it's a Renault sponsored by the the Proton group who bizarrely have used it as a platform to promote their Lotus cars brand and confuse the shit out of everyone).

 

[Durham Fox]

Hmmm on some tracks though it becomes too much of a procession and we don't want to see that. I wonder how some of the other top drivers would compare to Lewis in terms of overtakes, specifically the red bull boys.

I'm not sure to be honest but his places gained vs places lost average per race is more than double that of anyone else competing in the sport currently,including Alonso and Schumacher.

 

[Durham Fox]

In terms of competitive overtakes ie not including lapping, Hamilton completed 30, Vettel 18 and Webber 15.

 

[fcukcov]

The new other Lotus (it's a Renault sponsored by the the Proton group who bizarrely have used it as a platform to promote their Lotus cars brand and confuse the shit out of everyone).

Renault Lotus and Lotus Renault both competing. Good Look Brundle and square face!!

In terms of competitive overtakes ie not including lapping, Hamilton completed 30, Vettel 18 and Webber 15.

Hmm thought that may be the case, he's had a few times where mistakes have meant he has had to chase much slower cars, its where cars are more evenly matched, i.e. around the top of the field (where the red bulls have been majoritly) that the overtaking is more difficult but that could also be down to the fact that the drivers are better at that end of the grid.

Oh god who knows, lets wait for the 1st race and see what happens, actually thats Abu Dhabi where no one can overtake, lets wait for the 2nd and 3rd race!

 

[Durham Fox]

Red Bull RB7

 

[Durham Fox]

New Williams

 

[Durham Fox]

New Mercedes

 

[Durham Fox]

New Toro Rosso

 

[Durham Fox]

Mclaren launches on Friday, Virgin on Monday and the HRT and Force India has no date currently.

 

[fcukcov]

Red Bull RB7

Im really liking the look of the cars this year.

 

[fcukcov]

Mclaren launches on Friday, Virgin on Monday and the HRT and Force India has no date currently.

Never?

 

[Durham Fox]

Never?

I understand they hope to run their new car at the final test session. Clearly not learnt their lesson from last year. I suspect they will be even more of a joke this year than last. The other new teams are making big progress and HRT will be left at the back.

 

[fcukcov]

I understand they hope to run their new car at the final test session. Clearly not learnt their lesson from last year. I suspect they will be even more of a joke this year than last. The other new teams are making big progress and HRT will be left at the back.

Is the 107% rule back in? If so I can see that they will struggle to even qualify.

 

[Durham Fox]

Is the 107% rule back in? If so I can see that they will struggle to even qualify.

Yes it is and yes they will.

 

[Durham Fox]

New Mclaren