Football thugs aka wankers

[FIF]

FIF, have you ever been involved with trouble at a football match? I very much doubt it from what I have read of your posts in this thread.

Of course I have. I didn't miss a game in the 80s - I saw an old man walking along the opposite side of the street suddenly engulfed by thugs and beaten to a bloody mess within seconds as the wave passed, I've ran in fear down side streets as hundreds ran up them and I've seen the same hundreds turn tale as City "supporters" came down the other way. I 've seen police beaten up and police beat up.

I can't believe that you think it's a footy problem, its a tribal thing which has happened for millenia.

 

[Matt_B]

Of course I have. I didn't miss a game in the 80s - I saw an old man walking along the opposite side of the street suddenly engulfed by thugs and beaten to a bloody mess within seconds as the wave passed, I've ran in fear down side streets as hundreds ran up them and I've seen the same hundreds turn tale as City "supporters" came down the other way. I 've seen police beaten up and police beat up.

I can't believe that you think it's a footy problem, its a tribal thing which has happened for millenia.

Then when is it far less common with Rugby/Cricket/Basketball/NFL fans groups?

 

[Cate Fox]

Get a room you pair :icon_roll

nowt wrong with healthy debate

 

[FIF]

Then when is it far less common with Rugby/Cricket/Basketball/NFL fans groups?

Sorry I don't understand your question.

 

[Cate Fox]

Sorry I don't understand your question.

Think he meant why instead of when

 

[Boy Genius]

Of course I have. I didn't miss a game in the 80s - I saw an old man walking along the opposite side of the street suddenly engulfed by thugs and beaten to a bloody mess within seconds as the wave passed, I've ran in fear down side streets as hundreds ran up them and I've seen the same hundreds turn tale as City "supporters" came down the other way. I 've seen police beaten up and police beat up.

I can't believe that you think it's a footy problem, its a tribal thing which has happened for millenia.

I remember in the 70's being involved giving Leeds Utd fans a good kicking in Leeds, purely because they were Leeds Utd fans and nothing else. This was football related and nothing else. If you want to call a group of people a tribe then do so and hide behind academic theories and such, but it is all to do with football. It's a policing problem if anything.

 

[BOB HAZELL]

I bet that's the one I said used to work at the club early on in the thread.

Can't be sure without looking but I think it was the third pic on the top row.

The one that isn't a 'twin', BF.....

 

[FIF]

I remember in the 70's being involved giving Leeds Utd fans a good kicking in Leeds, purely because they were Leeds Utd fans and nothing else. This was football related and nothing else. If you want to call a group of people a tribe then do so and hide behind academic theories and such, but it is all to do with football. It's a policing problem if anything.

I remember running from Cheatsea fans in the 70's, and I remember being pretty scared walking to the old QPR ground for some reason too. it's not a football problem is a society problem. I don't think it's a policing problem but an educational problem (home/school/community)

 

[FIF]

I also remember a lot of shit being talked by BS members in the pub opposite Cranmer St/Ridley st which I stopped going to soon after.

 

[Matt_B]

Sorry I don't understand your question.

Think he meant why instead of when

I did sorry. If it is a tribal thing surely it would be as prevelant throughout all groups?

 

[Boy Genius]

I remember running from Cheatsea fans in the 70's, and I remember being pretty scared walking to the old QPR ground for some reason too. it's not a football problem is a society problem. I don't think it's a policing problem but an educational problem (home/school/community)

you quote two FOOTBALL teams there FIF, can you tell me of any other "tribes" you ran away from that were not connected to football. Seems to be football connected every time.

You seemed to do a lot of running away though.

 

[footyguts]

beaut.if i ever ran which i aint i dont think i'd be able to tell thousands that i did.so fair play fluff.

 

[Boy Genius]

beaut.if i ever ran which i aint i dont think i'd be able to tell thousands that i did.so fair play fluff.

That's why he lives in France.

 

[footyguts]

thats a long way to run.

 

[Cate Fox]

thats a long way to run.

I'd see him more as a person who lived in Italy...

 

[beaumontfox]

The one that isn't a 'twin', BF.....

Indeed. Didn't he get sacked from the club?

 

[Macky]

I have to say, I agree entirely with FIF on this one (which seems to be happening far too much recently).
It isn't a football problem, it has been happening for longer than football has existed.
The fact is, there has always been a section of working class males that enjoy group violence, it is a buzz for them. Football has traditionally been a working class sport and provides a convenient tribal group for them to associate with.

If football didn't exist, organised group violence between groups of working class men still would.

 

[footyguts]

so like i said its gonna happen wherever, its better away from the ground than at it nowadays.which is what the government wanted in all honestly.

 

[Macky]

so like i said its gonna happen wherever, its better away from the ground than at it nowadays.which is what the government wanted in all honestly.

What did the government want and how do you know this?

 

[Jeff]

, its better away from the ground than at it

Of course it's not.

If it happens at the ground the police will already be there and will be able to deal with it.

There's no way something as bad as last season at Cov would have happened at a ground.