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highland fox said:
So people who get divorced doso because of drink and drugs.You live in a very simplistic world if thats the case.When things happen in people's lives there isn't always a reason:icon_roll
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Its not the only reason people get divorced obviously, but drug use, drinking and violent abuse, constitutes a high number.
 
highland fox said:
Self Harmers? They know what they are doing so you wouldn't treat them ?
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Different thing all together. But I have yet to see someone claims that illness on to why they drink, smoke and take drugs.
There would be self harmers about even if there was no tobacco, drink or illegal drugs in this world.
 
"Yes I know you are having a heart attack right now, Mr Homer, but could you first fill in this short questionaire about how many units of alcohol you consume on average, and how many cigarettes you have smoked over the past thirty years. I can't administer any treatment until I have assesed you against this 'Personal Blame Matrix' devised by one of our consultants"
 
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Boy Genius said:
Different thing all together. But I have yet to see someone claims that illness on to why they drink, smoke and take drugs.
There would be self harmers about even if there was no tobacco, drink or illegal drugs in this world.
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People self harm because its a coping mechanism,the same in that some people drink or smoke becauses it helps them cope when things are bad in their life .I fail to see the difference.
 
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homer said:
"Yes I know you are having a heart attack right now, Mr Homer, but could you first fill in this short questionaire about how many units of alcohol you consume on avarage, and how many cigarettes you have smoked over the past thirty years. I can't administer any treatment until I have assesed you against this 'Personal Blame Matrix' devised by one of our consultants"
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spot on, thats the american way I believe. They will make sure you have either a credit card or enough insurance.

In your scenario just given, I would issue a bill to cover costs if it was proved to be down to drink or smoking, even more so if you have ignored the advise of a doctor to give up.
 
Boy Genius said:
spot on, thats the american way I believe. They will make sure you have either a credit card or enough insurance.

In your scenario just given, I would issue a bill to cover costs if it was proved to be down to drink or smoking, even more so if you have ignored the advise of a doctor to give up.
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So thats what you want,us to become like America? FFS:icon_roll
 
highland fox said:
People self harm because its a coping mechanism,the same in that some people drink or smoke becauses it helps them cope when things are bad in their life .I fail to see the difference.
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people don't have to drink or smoke to cope, that is just complete bollux and a good cop out.
Take fags and booze away from an addict and he can be cured, he wont die. Drugs certain types they have to be taken off slowly, but a self harmer is so different and I dont really understand how you can compare.
 
Boy Genius said:
people don't have to drink or smoke to cope, that is just complete bollux and a good cop out.
Take fags and booze away from an addict and he can be cured, he wont die. Drugs certain types they have to be taken off slowly, but a self harmer is so different and I dont really understand how you can compare.
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No,what you are talking is a complete load of bollux and you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.I do know what I'm talking about on this,one of the few things I do know about
I think I'm best walking away from this
 
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Boy Genius said:
spot on, thats the american way I believe. They will make sure you have either a credit card or enough insurance.
In your scenario just given, I would issue a bill to cover costs if it was proved to be down to drink or smoking, even more so if you have ignored the advise of a doctor to give up.
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This is true. I was waiting to have stitches in a hand wound, and was called thru before the guy next to me, who was having attack of pendasitas (?).They were waiting for insurance proof.

Isnt there talk of charging drunks at A&E.
 
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highland fox said:
No,what you are talking is a complete load of bollux and you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.I do know what I'm talking about on this,one of the few things I do know about
I think I'm best walking away from this
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so HF you would put self harmers in the same boat as drug addicts, smokers and drunks.
 
Boy Genius said:
so HF you would put self harmers in the same boat as drug addicts, smokers and drunks.
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I'm not arguing with you on this.Not all drug addicts,smokers and alcoholics are horrible despicable people
 
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homer said:
Just about sums it up nicely

If you like it so much why don't you just go and live there.............
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Since i lived there, they now have to treat you insurance or not.If you have insurance, fine.If not, they come after you for it.

Thats the American system.They dont have the money taken out of their wages.They pay for what level of health they need.Good system if you ask me.

Those that dont get insurance are taking a big gamble. A bit like abusing drugs.
 
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