Kisnorbo Ban
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Yorkshire Vixen
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Re: Kisnarbo Ban
think its 3 games and starts straight away but that might depend on us appealing the card
think its 3 games and starts straight away but that might depend on us appealing the card
Hazzman
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Re: Kisnarbo Ban
According to the FA:
Three game ban immediately starting on Saturday.
''Suspended from all football until the Club have completed 3 first team matches for a Sending Off in a match played on 19/09/2006.''
That means Colchester, Brum and Southampton. He'll back for the 17/10 game against Leeds.
According to the FA:
Three game ban immediately starting on Saturday.
''Suspended from all football until the Club have completed 3 first team matches for a Sending Off in a match played on 19/09/2006.''
That means Colchester, Brum and Southampton. He'll back for the 17/10 game against Leeds.
bocadillo
Water Gypsy
Re: Kisnarbo Ban
A claim for 'wrongful dismissal' has been lodged and acknowledged by the FA.
The Hereford player who was dismissed has also appealed on the grounds that he was not the player involved in the incident with Levi Porter - he cites Martyn Giles as the person who should have been sent off.
All evidence to support the appeals must be lodged with the FA by 1:00 p.m. and both hearings will be held tomorrow afternoon. (Claims are heard by Disciplinary Commissions and consideration of the appeal is based on video evidence and written submissions only; neither Kisnorbo nor anybody from the club will appear. Disciplinary Commissions may increase the penalty if they deem the claim to be frivolous!!)
A claim for 'wrongful dismissal' has been lodged and acknowledged by the FA.
The Hereford player who was dismissed has also appealed on the grounds that he was not the player involved in the incident with Levi Porter - he cites Martyn Giles as the person who should have been sent off.
All evidence to support the appeals must be lodged with the FA by 1:00 p.m. and both hearings will be held tomorrow afternoon. (Claims are heard by Disciplinary Commissions and consideration of the appeal is based on video evidence and written submissions only; neither Kisnorbo nor anybody from the club will appear. Disciplinary Commissions may increase the penalty if they deem the claim to be frivolous!!)
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Hazzman
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Re: Kisnarbo Ban
I bet the Hereford player Martyn Giles is unhappy, he must surely be second choice.
I bet the Hereford player Martyn Giles is unhappy, he must surely be second choice.
bocadillo
Water Gypsy
Re: Kisnarbo Ban
The FA have already transferred Trent McClenahan's 1-game ban to Martyn Giles. That was quick!!
The FA have already transferred Trent McClenahan's 1-game ban to Martyn Giles. That was quick!!
TornadoShaunUK
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Re: Kisnarbo Ban
Has anyone seen the sendings off on a replay yet? Was Kisnorbo's a definate red or was it a little harsh? What are our chances of getting it down to a one-game ban?
Has anyone seen the sendings off on a replay yet? Was Kisnorbo's a definate red or was it a little harsh? What are our chances of getting it down to a one-game ban?
Boy Genius
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Re: Kisnarbo Ban
I thought they wer both straight reds, so why is one a 1 match ban and the other a 3 match ban?
I thought they wer both straight reds, so why is one a 1 match ban and the other a 3 match ban?
Real Sharapova
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Re: Kisnarbo Ban
Not an expert, but I think because Kisnorbo's was violent conduct.
Not an expert, but I think because Kisnorbo's was violent conduct.
Profondo Rosso
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Re: Kisnarbo Ban
Me and my freind were wondering about this earlier. It's for all domestic compitions and not jsut for the league cup, right??
Just wondering, because if you get sent off in Europe the ban is only for the European games, but i guess that's because it's a different organisation running the compitition
Me and my freind were wondering about this earlier. It's for all domestic compitions and not jsut for the league cup, right??
Just wondering, because if you get sent off in Europe the ban is only for the European games, but i guess that's because it's a different organisation running the compitition
bocadillo
Water Gypsy
Re: Kisnarbo Ban
Exactly.
Receiving a second caution in the same match - one match (no appeal possible)
Denying a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by physical means or by handling the ball - one match
Offensive or insulting or abusive language/gestures - two matches
Violent Conduct, Serious Foul Play or spitting at an opponent or any other person - three matches.
All suspensions for sendings-off begin immediately.
Exactly.
Receiving a second caution in the same match - one match (no appeal possible)
Denying a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by physical means or by handling the ball - one match
Offensive or insulting or abusive language/gestures - two matches
Violent Conduct, Serious Foul Play or spitting at an opponent or any other person - three matches.
All suspensions for sendings-off begin immediately.
bocadillo
Water Gypsy
Re: Kisnarbo Ban
I spoke to loads of people after the game and not one had seen anything of the incident - perhaps the ref was the only person who did!
Don't know what chance there is in this particular case, but the player and the club must think that there is some chance after reviewing the video or they wouldn't be risking the possibility of an increased punishment for a frivolous claim. Last season about 20% of the straight reds were appealed against. In some cases the appeal was withdrawn before teh Disciplinary Committee got a chance to hear it and in some cases the evidence/video was not available to the commission and therefore the appeal could not proceed. Out of the 65 appeals that were heard, 23 were upheld - so Kisnorbo's chances might seem to be slightly better than 1 in 3. Perhaps Jeff could open a vbook on the outcome.
I spoke to loads of people after the game and not one had seen anything of the incident - perhaps the ref was the only person who did!
Don't know what chance there is in this particular case, but the player and the club must think that there is some chance after reviewing the video or they wouldn't be risking the possibility of an increased punishment for a frivolous claim. Last season about 20% of the straight reds were appealed against. In some cases the appeal was withdrawn before teh Disciplinary Committee got a chance to hear it and in some cases the evidence/video was not available to the commission and therefore the appeal could not proceed. Out of the 65 appeals that were heard, 23 were upheld - so Kisnorbo's chances might seem to be slightly better than 1 in 3. Perhaps Jeff could open a vbook on the outcome.
Tamworth Fox
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Re: Kisnarbo Ban
Leicester appeal against it.
http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10274~900422,00.html
Leicester appeal against it.
http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10274~900422,00.html
bocadillo
Water Gypsy
beaumontfox
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Re: Kisnarbo Ban
even the Hereford fans i've spoke to on TFF said they never saw anything which warranted Kisnorbo getting a straight red.
even the Hereford fans i've spoke to on TFF said they never saw anything which warranted Kisnorbo getting a straight red.
Re: Kisnarbo Ban
I've seen some reports that say he stamped on their player when he was on the ground, others that say he kicked their player in the head. :icon_conf
Has anyone seen TV footage of the incident?
I've seen some reports that say he stamped on their player when he was on the ground, others that say he kicked their player in the head. :icon_conf
Has anyone seen TV footage of the incident?
bocadillo
Water Gypsy
Re: Kisnarbo Ban
I'm not even sure that I saw any players of either side on the ground in the moments before the red card was shown. I joked earlier about what Kisnorbo might have been saying to the Hereford player immediately after having been shown the red card, but I think it was clear that he felt that the player had got him sent off.
Don't expect they'll be showing any video of the incident down here in the south-east though.
I'm not even sure that I saw any players of either side on the ground in the moments before the red card was shown. I joked earlier about what Kisnorbo might have been saying to the Hereford player immediately after having been shown the red card, but I think it was clear that he felt that the player had got him sent off.
Don't expect they'll be showing any video of the incident down here in the south-east though.
beaumontfox
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all they showed on Sky before the Villa match started was Hammond's goal.
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