Post Match Leicester 0 Fulham 2

[popillius]

Coaching the players into not making the same mistakes?

Basic organisation?

Correct team selection and substitutes?

I agree with you to some extent, and it’s generally said most managers don’t actually make a whole lot of difference. But surely there are some basics he’s being paid to do with whatever coaching badges he’s got, even with the hand he’s been dealt.

Otherwise we might as well have a city fan/pop dream team as the management team.

Nah. We'd be too busy necking if we were together.

 

[Payne74]

When we played football at high school we were coached to look over your shoulder to be aware of who was around you, we got fined 20p each time an opposing player received the ball when you wasn't aware they was there, I have no idea what is being coached at the £100 million training ground but Adama basically walked the ball in as Kristiansen was oblivious he was there and gave him the freedom of the pitch

RVN can coach the hell out of the players but when you have players that have no concept of tactics or awareness around them then it's impossible to get a good performance from them.

Kristiansen is one of many that aren't good enough and never will be, he needs to be moved on to any club that we can con into taking him.

 

[TommyK]

I would do two things which would seem like madness not too long ago.

1) Vardy is our best striker. But you can't play him 3 times in a week and expect him to be effective at 38.
Daka in for Vardy.

2) Put a defensive midfielder in. Winks and Soumare are not aggressive enough, don't work hard enough and don't follow there men. The only option we have really is Choudhury and although he is shit. He would offer some fight and aggression.
Put Choudhury in as a defensive midfielder.

 

[Feidlimid]

Kristiansen is one of many that aren't good enough and never will be, he needs to be moved on to any club that we can con into taking him.

I'm no fan either. Headless chicken. All rush and puff, he could do with thinking a bit more.

 

[Feidlimid]

Nervous perhaps, but terrible.

I was at first glad it wasn’t Sweetman-Kirk.

I loathe Sweetman-Kirk! It's her tone of voice, it reminds me of Alan Hansen. All kind of know-it-all and 'I am right'. Winds me up something chronic.

I think Marc was nervous and gabbled, commentator couldn't get a word in! He'll calm down... if he gets another chance.

 

[Volpone]

On a personal positive side I never renewed my season ticket so I don't have to watch this utter garbage and by the way things are going it might be a long time before I would want to. (Sorry for those poor souls that have to watch this shite)

We only renewed ours on the back of the optimism generated by Enzo Maresca. If we'd known he'd move on a few days after the deadline to be replaced by Cooper we wouldn't have bothered.

 

[ThaiSweetChilli]

Well what's the point in sacking a manager if you don't expect the next one to change things? As it happens, the appointment didn't look a great one from the start so my expectations were pretty low.

Had we hired a proper manager then we would have changed things but instead, we jumped from a clown to a duffer.

Hope. That’s what it comes down to. Hope that it changes.

Cooper needed to go. But we needed a proper replacement.

 

[Payne74]

We only renewed ours on the back of the optimism generated by Enzo Maresca. If we'd known he'd move on a few days after the deadline to be replaced by Cooper we wouldn't have bothered.

I didn't renew ours because of my Dad passing away, maybe he knew what was coming and also knew I would renew both our season tickets so decided death was a better option.

 

[Tango Fox]

I get what he’s trying to do with the subs. With the so-called creativity of BEK

Well I can say with absolute certainty that yesterday his substitutions were unfathomable. EK was our only creative player and was trying (and to a certain extent) succeeding in creating some decent passages of play. He was by far our best player.

He should therefore have picked almost anyone else on the pitch h to substitute, he SHOULD NOT have subbed EK.

The trouble is we don’t create enough when EK and Winks start. Against Palace when he changed it to a 4-4-2 with two wingers it did have an impact (albeit short-lived!) so I get why he makes those changes. People have been quick to criticise when managers don’t make changes so it seems they can’t win either way. The bottom line is that we are well below the standard of an average PL team who can pass to each other and do basic defending while looking dangerous in attack.

 

[Robin127]

I think Marc was nervous and gabbled, commentator couldn't get a word in! He'll calm down... if he gets another chance.

A few years ago MotoGP changed their co-commentator/interviewer to an ex rider, he was dreadful for the first half a dozen events. He slowly grew into the role and last season was his last as he is moving into the actual race organisation, the consensus amongst most fans is that he is going to be great loss to the broadcast.

Might be the same for Albrighton, I hope so as he wasn't that great yeaterday.

 

[Miles Away]

A few years ago MotoGP changed their co-commentator/interviewer to an ex rider, he was dreadful for the first half a dozen events. He slowly grew into the role and last season was his last as he is moving into the actual race organisation, the consensus amongst most fans is that he is going to be great loss to the broadcast.

Might be the same for Albrighton, I hope so as he wasn't that great yeaterday.

Piper used to be quite poor. He’s done brilliantly and is a voice I seek out now.

 

[Fox Fan]

Piper used to be quite poor. He’s done brilliantly and is a voice I seek out now.

Absolutely. It's criminal he's on RL when you hear some of the appalling co-comms on TV. Some of the conference league stuff in particular was unlistenable.

 

[big_mac4824]

Just watched the highlights on Sky

The ****ing defending for those goals. Holy shit, what a complete shower

Kristiansen and Vestergard absolute filth for both of them. Mavididi missing in action for the second (although our whole shape was wrong - Kristiansen should have been covering Traore)

Both goals are an abomination

I think Mavididi and Vestergaard were at fault for the second. Kristiansen was forced to cover in the goal area really which meant Mavididi should have got back to cover the guy who never ever scores goals.

our entire midfield just gave up at the start of their second it was abysmal.

 

[Feidlimid]

A few years ago MotoGP changed their co-commentator/interviewer to an ex rider

Who was it? As a matter of interest.

I used to follow BSB, WSB and MotoGP back in the early 2000s. Coming back on a flight back from Barcelona once, I sat next to Chris Walker. It was during his (unsuccessful) MotoGP year. I didn't let on that I knew who he was, and left him in peace. Worst thing was, I then couldn't read my bike mag either!

Back to Marc; yes, he gabbled. He was obviously brought on for his Leicester insights (which were kinda run of the mill in truth but maybe of interest to some/many) but.sadly he didn't know when to stop. So, yes, nerves. I hope he gets another go and settles into it.

 

[Robin127]

Who was it? As a matter of interest.

Simon Crafar.

 

[Feidlimid]

Simon Crafar.

Never heard of him! Before my time Google tells me.

Edit: just reading about, yes, rings a bell. Aaron Slight, I knew of.

 

[Brown Nose]

It was almost spontaneous. As the roar from the travelling Fulham fans started to fade after Emile Smith Rowe’s goal three minutes after the restart, the familiar chants began.

“We want Rudkin out, say we want Rudkin out.”

It has become a sporadic part of the chanting repertoire for some Leicester City supporters over the past three years as their club has gone from one that has challenged the elite of the Premier League to one that is just sinking in the quicksand to the Championship for the second time in three seasons.

Jon Rudkin, the club’s director of football for the past 10 years, is seen as a key figure in that decline.
The glory years of the Premier League title win in 2016, the Champions League, two more European campaigns and winning the FA Cup will never be forgotten, but they feel like a distant memory for the supporters who headed for the exits after Adama Traore drilled home the second goal to dampen Leicester’s fading survival hopes.

Ruud van Nistelrooy’s side have lost seven consecutive league games for only the fourth time in their history. They have failed to score in four consecutive home league games for the first time since September 1983 (run of five) while they have drawn a blank in five of their nine Premier League games under Van Nistelrooy. They did so in just one of their first 13 matches of the season under Steve Cooper and caretaker Ben Dawson.

With those numbers, it was not just Rudkin who was targeted by the chanting.

There were chants for “Sack the board” and, when Van Nistelrooy took off the popular figure of Bilal El Khannouss just four minutes before Traore’s strike, there was a chorus of boos and chants of: “You don’t know what you’re doing.”

Leicester have gone from being a model of how to compete with the top clubs to being characterised by poor decision-making and a lack of accountability.

The supporters have every right to demand answers and action as they watch their club become a fading shadow of what it once was.

Ten years ago, after a 1-0 home defeat to Stoke City, Leicester were bottom of the Premier League, three points from safety but three points better off than they are today.

The managerial structure was generally as it is now, but there was one huge difference — the inspirational, much-mourned figure of Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha was at the helm.

Back then, his son, Aiyawatt, worked closely at the club, reporting back to his father who looked over the King Power Empire from Thailand. He worked with Rudkin, who had just been promoted to director of football, while chief executive officer Susan Whelan managed the club’s general affairs.

It was a winning formula at the time. Now, the gulf left by Khun Vichai’s tragic death in the 2018 helicopter crash has never seemed bigger.

Khun Top has stepped into his father’s role to manage the entire King Power portfolio and has also started a family. Away from football, the family has also filed a £2.15billion fatal accident claim against the manufacturer of the helicopter in which his father died. An inquest into the deaths of the five people killed in the crash also began last week.

Khun Top has much more on his plate than just Leicester, but he remains the chief decision-maker of its affairs. He needs more help.

Rudkin is in charge of football affairs, although he delegates major decisions to Khun Top. But managing Leicester’s football matters has become a huge concern. Other clubs have appointed people to assist the director of football to manage the workload and speed up the decision-making, which has become too slow at Leicester.

Recruitment has been a huge issue. It has become scattergun, with no clear vision.

With five managers in the past three years, the ultimate decision on which players are brought in has been left to each of the individual managers. But with managers as diverse as Brendan Rodgers, Enzo Maresca, Steve Cooper and now Van Nistelrooy (Dean Smith did not get a transfer window), all have had different opinions on players, leading to no clearly defined philosophy on who is the right fit for the club.

One check on signings has been profitability and sustainability rules (PSR). While no Premier League club has been charged with PSR breaches in the most recent assessment, Leicester remain in a legal battle with the Premier League over club losses incurred during the three-year accounting period ending in 2023-24.
Instead of the club challenging a manager’s decision on a signing, it appears as though they have been given carte blanche.

Jannik Vestergaard is a classic example. Wanted by Rodgers, and then unwanted, he was rewarded with a new three-year contract by Maresca, unused by Cooper, but is now back at the heart of Van Nistelrooy’s defence.

Funds are precious with Leicester’s profit and sustainability concerns, but they tried to back Cooper last summer with an £80million gross spend. Only two of those signings started against Fulham — El Khannouss and Jordan Ayew.

Caleb Okoli and Oliver Skipp were recruited for a combined total of £33million. They may prove to be sound investments, but right now they are squad players and for a challenge as great as remaining in the Premier League, Leicester needed players who can overwhelmingly improve the starting XI.

The decision to use up one of Leicester’s two Premier League loan spots on striker Odsonne Edouard has been a disaster. He cannot even get into the matchday squad and would be extremely expensive to send back to Crystal Palace.

They need reinforcements desperately in this January transfer window. With two weeks to go, only one has arrived: full-back Woyo Coulibaly, for £3million, from Parma.

With PSR still potentially an issue, Leicester are struggling to do any other deals without generating more funds.

Tom Cannon was recalled from his loan at Stoke City and Leicester are trying to sell him to generate funds to be reinvested. Several clubs have expressed an interest in taking Cannon on loan, and Van Nistelrooy has said Leicester are “looking in this window at his situation, what would be best for him and for the club”. But Leicester need to move much quicker. But to many, there appears to be a lethargy that is out of place with the club’s precarious predicament.

Unlike in 2014-15, when Leicester signed Robert Huth on loan and Andrej Kramaric for £9million, there are no funds to play with. Leicester need to conjure up something special or Van Nistelrooy, who said funds and the January window were part of his negotiations with the club when he agreed to join, will be left to play the hand he has been dealt. He stressed publicly after the Fulham game nothing had changed.

In 2015, Nigel Pearson decided to make changes in his approach and personnel. It paid off. Leicester survived and so began an incredible era in the club’s history.

Ten years on, it feels very different. But changes are needed at Leicester City just as much if they are to survive.

 

[pork pie fox]

It was almost spontaneous. As the roar from the travelling Fulham fans started to fade after Emile Smith Rowe’s goal three minutes after the restart, the familiar chants began.

“We want Rudkin out, say we want Rudkin out.”

It has become a sporadic part of the chanting repertoire for some Leicester City supporters over the past three years as their club has gone from one that has challenged the elite of the Premier League to one that is just sinking in the quicksand to the Championship for the second time in three seasons.

Jon Rudkin, the club’s director of football for the past 10 years, is seen as a key figure in that decline.
The glory years of the Premier League title win in 2016, the Champions League, two more European campaigns and winning the FA Cup will never be forgotten, but they feel like a distant memory for the supporters who headed for the exits after Adama Traore drilled home the second goal to dampen Leicester’s fading survival hopes.

Ruud van Nistelrooy’s side have lost seven consecutive league games for only the fourth time in their history. They have failed to score in four consecutive home league games for the first time since September 1983 (run of five) while they have drawn a blank in five of their nine Premier League games under Van Nistelrooy. They did so in just one of their first 13 matches of the season under Steve Cooper and caretaker Ben Dawson.

With those numbers, it was not just Rudkin who was targeted by the chanting.

There were chants for “Sack the board” and, when Van Nistelrooy took off the popular figure of Bilal El Khannouss just four minutes before Traore’s strike, there was a chorus of boos and chants of: “You don’t know what you’re doing.”

Leicester have gone from being a model of how to compete with the top clubs to being characterised by poor decision-making and a lack of accountability.

The supporters have every right to demand answers and action as they watch their club become a fading shadow of what it once was.

Ten years ago, after a 1-0 home defeat to Stoke City, Leicester were bottom of the Premier League, three points from safety but three points better off than they are today.

The managerial structure was generally as it is now, but there was one huge difference — the inspirational, much-mourned figure of Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha was at the helm.

Back then, his son, Aiyawatt, worked closely at the club, reporting back to his father who looked over the King Power Empire from Thailand. He worked with Rudkin, who had just been promoted to director of football, while chief executive officer Susan Whelan managed the club’s general affairs.

It was a winning formula at the time. Now, the gulf left by Khun Vichai’s tragic death in the 2018 helicopter crash has never seemed bigger.

Khun Top has stepped into his father’s role to manage the entire King Power portfolio and has also started a family. Away from football, the family has also filed a £2.15billion fatal accident claim against the manufacturer of the helicopter in which his father died. An inquest into the deaths of the five people killed in the crash also began last week.

Khun Top has much more on his plate than just Leicester, but he remains the chief decision-maker of its affairs. He needs more help.

Rudkin is in charge of football affairs, although he delegates major decisions to Khun Top. But managing Leicester’s football matters has become a huge concern. Other clubs have appointed people to assist the director of football to manage the workload and speed up the decision-making, which has become too slow at Leicester.

Recruitment has been a huge issue. It has become scattergun, with no clear vision.

With five managers in the past three years, the ultimate decision on which players are brought in has been left to each of the individual managers. But with managers as diverse as Brendan Rodgers, Enzo Maresca, Steve Cooper and now Van Nistelrooy (Dean Smith did not get a transfer window), all have had different opinions on players, leading to no clearly defined philosophy on who is the right fit for the club.

One check on signings has been profitability and sustainability rules (PSR). While no Premier League club has been charged with PSR breaches in the most recent assessment, Leicester remain in a legal battle with the Premier League over club losses incurred during the three-year accounting period ending in 2023-24.
Instead of the club challenging a manager’s decision on a signing, it appears as though they have been given carte blanche.

Jannik Vestergaard is a classic example. Wanted by Rodgers, and then unwanted, he was rewarded with a new three-year contract by Maresca, unused by Cooper, but is now back at the heart of Van Nistelrooy’s defence.

Funds are precious with Leicester’s profit and sustainability concerns, but they tried to back Cooper last summer with an £80million gross spend. Only two of those signings started against Fulham — El Khannouss and Jordan Ayew.

Caleb Okoli and Oliver Skipp were recruited for a combined total of £33million. They may prove to be sound investments, but right now they are squad players and for a challenge as great as remaining in the Premier League, Leicester needed players who can overwhelmingly improve the starting XI.

The decision to use up one of Leicester’s two Premier League loan spots on striker Odsonne Edouard has been a disaster. He cannot even get into the matchday squad and would be extremely expensive to send back to Crystal Palace.

They need reinforcements desperately in this January transfer window. With two weeks to go, only one has arrived: full-back Woyo Coulibaly, for £3million, from Parma.

With PSR still potentially an issue, Leicester are struggling to do any other deals without generating more funds.

Tom Cannon was recalled from his loan at Stoke City and Leicester are trying to sell him to generate funds to be reinvested. Several clubs have expressed an interest in taking Cannon on loan, and Van Nistelrooy has said Leicester are “looking in this window at his situation, what would be best for him and for the club”. But Leicester need to move much quicker. But to many, there appears to be a lethargy that is out of place with the club’s precarious predicament.

Unlike in 2014-15, when Leicester signed Robert Huth on loan and Andrej Kramaric for £9million, there are no funds to play with. Leicester need to conjure up something special or Van Nistelrooy, who said funds and the January window were part of his negotiations with the club when he agreed to join, will be left to play the hand he has been dealt. He stressed publicly after the Fulham game nothing had changed.

In 2015, Nigel Pearson decided to make changes in his approach and personnel. It paid off. Leicester survived and so began an incredible era in the club’s history.

Ten years on, it feels very different. But changes are needed at Leicester City just as much if they are to survive.

I’ve just been reading that article. This bit particularly caught my eye:

“With five managers in the past three years, the ultimate decision on which players are brought in has been left to each of the individual managers. But with managers as diverse as Brendan Rodgers, Enzo Maresca, Steve Cooper and now Van Nistelrooy (Dean Smith did not get a transfer window), all have had different opinions on players, leading to no clearly defined philosophy on who is the right fit for the club.”

Sounds like madness, but also sounds entirely plausible, given what we can see with our own eyes.

 

[camberwell fox]

I’ve just been reading that article. This bit particularly caught my eye:

“With five managers in the past three years, the ultimate decision on which players are brought in has been left to each of the individual managers. But with managers as diverse as Brendan Rodgers, Enzo Maresca, Steve Cooper and now Van Nistelrooy (Dean Smith did not get a transfer window), all have had different opinions on players, leading to no clearly defined philosophy on who is the right fit for the club.”

Sounds like madness, but also sounds entirely plausible, given what we can see with our own eyes.

If there was an unlike button then I would have pressed it.

I've just read the same article and drawn the same conclusion as you. Idiots.

 

[Tango Fox]

What the heck is Glover supposed to be doing?