Leicester City v Watford 4-2

[Miles Away]

Because he was "fat" and "dogshite."

His mate's were doing the Poznan after all 4 goals and he actually refused to join in for the second because Yakubu scored it: "I don't know how any Leicester fan can celebrate that fat bastard scoring" :icon_roll Changed his mind and joined in for his second as well.

Glad he was a one off and doesn't sit behind me every week.

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You couldn't make it up.

I'm sure the man in question was at the peak of his physical powers too?

 

[tedfoxxx]

:icon_eek::icon_eek:

Now thats just silly.

 

[Profondo Rosso]

You couldn't make it up.

I'm sure the man in question was at the peak of his physical powers too?

Unsurprisingly, he looked like he's had more than one too many pies himself. :icon_roll

 

[beaumontfox]

Now Bruma has scored two does that mean we sing a crap song everytime he gets the ball and ignore the mistakes he makes?

No.
I can't forget how utterly shite he has been and that we've been cack since he has been playing for us.
Two decent goals won't change that.

At this moment in time, ignoring pre-destination and all that:

Would you rather be a Leicester fan or a Leeds fan?

Who would ever WANT to be a leeds fan?

I don't know if it was a one off, but goals aside Bruma was outstanding in the middle today. calm collected and great play making.

I thought he was better second half than first, where he didn't seem at all bothered to track back or put tackles in.
He can still feck off back to Cheatsea.

Oh, and sorry to BF for causing you agro with that guy in the ticket office!

Not at all, he agreed with what I was saying in the end! Obviously swayed by my gawjusness!!:icon_roll

 

[Miles Away]

So if we could get Bruma on a season long next season...would people approve of that?

He obviously has some pedigree and if he was part of a balanced side maybe he would become useful. I know I was excited when we got him in initially, and while his stay has been less than impressive I still think he will be a useful player.

 

[GazLCFC]

Also, I make that the third season (i.e. season in which we played Watford, so not counting the League One season) in a row in which we've hit 4 past Watford at home.

Did I miss a game :icon_wink

 

[David Gwilliam]

At this moment in time, ignoring pre-destination and all that:

Would you rather be a Leicester fan or a Leeds fan?

To be a Leeds fan would involve coming to terms with the fact that their great and supremely gifted Revie team was built on a foundation of corruption.

I have seen nearly a thousand Leicester games and I have no reason to doubt that win or lose the result of every one has been decided on the pitch. No Leeds fan can honestly say the same.

 

[David Gwilliam]

I think you must be imagining things PR. We didn't play Watford at home the season we went down. Crazy talk to suggest we did!

I thought that Martin Allen's last match was against Watford - if not who?

In the first half I thought that the Watford defence was superb and ours was poor. This was completely reversed in the second half.

I found it a really good match full of incident.

Tunch only came on in the dying seconds of the match to great acclaim. I wondered if it was just a way of saying goodbye.

 

[Profondo Rosso]

To be a Leeds fan would involve coming to terms with the fact that their great and supremely gifted Revie team was built on a foundation of corruption.

I have seen nearly a thousand Leicester games and I have no reason to doubt that win or lose the result of every one has been decided on the pitch. No Leeds fan can honestly say the same.

What about any Leeds fan too young to remember the Revie era? What about any Leicester fan old enough to remember the 1949 season where Leicester were heavily accused of match-fixing?

Were Leeds ever proven to be "corrupt" under Revie anyway? Or is it just yet more nonsense mythology which increases the deification of Clough?

 

[Siouxsie]

Was I watching a different game or are you lot making up this change of formation? (or just believing everything that radio Leicester say).

There was no change in shape, just personnel.

To me it looked like they had no shape / some weird diamond in the first half and a definite 4-4-2 in the 2nd. I certainly wasn't listening to Radio Leicester.

I still wasn't impressed by Bruma, despite the goals.
Vitor was my MOTM.

I bet all the "fans" who booed at half time are so pleased with themselves that the team responded and changed their attitude in the 2nd.

 

[beaumontfox]

To me it looked like they had no shape / some weird diamond in the first half and a definite 4-4-2 in the 2nd. I certainly wasn't listening to Radio Leicester.

I still wasn't impressed by Bruma, despite the goals.
Vitor was my MOTM.

I bet all the "fans" who booed at half time are so pleased with themselves that the team responded and changed their attitude in the 2nd.

Same.

I moved my ST after the game cos there is no way I'm sitting near the mongie family from hell any longer. In fact, before I leave L1 after the Ipswich game I may tell them what I think of them:icon_wink

 

[beaumontfox]

BTW due to me being an idiot I've got more SC Player of the Year tickets than I was supposed to get, so if anyone wants one for after the Ipswich game PM me and I'll sort it out with ya.
Can't believe I paid for the darn things without double-checking if they had been put to one side for me first!

PFFFFT


BG and BM: Got yours, so just pay up when I sees ya to give you your tickets!:icon_bigg

 

[Graz]

BTW due to me being an idiot I've got more SC Player of the Year tickets than I was supposed to get, so if anyone wants one for after the Ipswich game PM me and I'll sort it out with ya.

:icon_eek: Now there's an offer.

 

[beaumontfox]

:icon_roll

As if I'd be lucky enough to get any of that sort of action.

 

[David Gwilliam]

What about any Leeds fan too young to remember the Revie era? What about any Leicester fan old enough to remember the 1949 season where Leicester were heavily accused of match-fixing?

Were Leeds ever proven to be "corrupt" under Revie anyway? Or is it just yet more nonsense mythology which increases the deification of Clough?

I have no idea about the 1949 season.

Bob Stokoe was manager of Bury when Revie took over a Leeds side facing relegation to the Third Division. He claimed that Revie offered £500 for his team to go easy.
Gary Sprake admitted that attempts were made to bribe Wolves players for the final game of the season. Wolves manager Bill McGarry warned his players that anyone he suspected of taking bribes would never play football again and Wolves won the match.
Gary Sprake said he had been asked by Revie and refused to try and bribe two Birmingham players Green and Hennessey who were Welsh team mates of his.
Jim Barron the Forest goalkeeper in the early 1970s claimed that Billy Bremner came into the Forest dressing room to try and do a deal.

Obviously attempts at bribery are more likely to come to light when they fail. It is interesting that no such accusations were made against other top managers.

Nothing in sport is as destructive as match fixing. Jake La Motta was one of the greatest of all boxers and yet when Madison Square Garden honours its "legends" local boy La Motta is never invited. In 1947 he threw a fight against Billy Fox. Over sixty years later Madison Square Garden has not forgiven him and they are right.

The "deification" of Clough is something that happened rather after the Revie years. In the late 1960s early 1970s Clough and Revie were two of a number of big characters - Englands greatest manager Sir Alf had tremendous status, Matt Busby was still around, Bill Shankly Joe Mercer and Bertie Mee were very successful and the charismatic Tommy Docherty was a very strong presence. None of them had the unsavoury repuation of Don Revie.

Please excuse a hobbyhorse of mine but people looking back - and not only in football - create a simple story e.g. Revie vs Clough whereas the past is in fact infinitely complex and for some of us infinitely fascinating.

 

[Profondo Rosso]

I have no idea about the 1949 season.

Bob Stokoe was manager of Bury when Revie took over a Leeds side facing relegation to the Third Division. He claimed that Revie offered £500 for his team to go easy.
Gary Sprake admitted that attempts were made to bribe Wolves players for the final game of the season. Wolves manager Bill McGarry warned his players that anyone he suspected of taking bribes would never play football again and Wolves won the match.
Gary Sprake said he had been asked by Revie and refused to try and bribe two Birmingham players Green and Hennessey who were Welsh team mates of his.
Jim Barron the Forest goalkeeper in the early 1970s claimed that Billy Bremner came into the Forest dressing room to try and do a deal.

So to answer my question, no, none of this has ever been proven.

Obviously attempts at bribery are more likely to come to light when they fail. It is interesting that no such accusations were made against other top managers.

Nothing in sport is as destructive as match fixing. Jake La Motta was one of the greatest of all boxers and yet when Madison Square Garden honours its "legends" local boy La Motta is never invited. In 1947 he threw a fight against Billy Fox. Over sixty years later Madison Square Garden has not forgiven him and they are right.

The "deification" of Clough is something that happened rather after the Revie years. In the late 1960s early 1970s Clough and Revie were two of a number of big characters - Englands greatest manager Sir Alf had tremendous status, Matt Busby was still around, Bill Shankly Joe Mercer and Bertie Mee were very successful and the charismatic Tommy Docherty was a very strong presence. None of them had the unsavoury repuation of Don Revie.

Please excuse a hobbyhorse of mine but people looking back - and not only in football - create a simple story e.g. Revie vs Clough whereas the past is in fact infinitely complex and for some of us infinitely fascinating.

I just find it strange that people hate Revie as an "unsavory" character and still hate Leeds decades after Revie has left them for reasons such as match-fixing and playing pragmatic football which don't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Then the exact same people deify the far more despicable character of Brian Clough who was unabashedly homophobic and xenophobic (and in destroying the career of the only openly gay footballer who was eventually driven to suicide, halted any professional players coming out even today in fear of the reaction of fans/teammates/managers and why fans (through lack of familiarity) still chant those disgusting chants such as those some of our fans chanted at Wes Hoolahan only a few weeks back) and who physically assaulted his own fans unprovoked.

Not only that, but I absolutely despise Brian Clough's (and Bill Shankly's) influence on English football. Every single quote of Clough and Shaknly gets taken as gospel by so many people and they constantly quote them as if the game hasn't moved on in 40 years. The "tactics don't matter" attitude (yes, they may not have done in the English game of the 1970's, but with the detailed analysis and modern computer programmes teams have now, every little detail will be scrutinised to get the edge). The idea that "if a player is not interfering with play he shouldn't be on the pitch." Rubbish! If a player is down injured in the corner completely away from the game then the goal should be disallowed for offside? Really? The quotes about players not being "man" enough, the "oh, look how passionate and working class I am. I bleed red blood, I hate Everton etc. etc."

Then there is the Victorian headmaster ultra-strict approach of Clough and Shankly. All it has done is spawned 100s of managers in the Martin Allen ilk who think winning football matches is about creating an atmosphere of some kind of benign dictatorship of treating players like they are dirt.

That is my own personal hobbyhorse.

 

[Blue Maniac]

I just find it strange that people hate Revie as an "unsavory" character and still hate Leeds decades after Revie has left them for reasons such as match-fixing and playing pragmatic football which don't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Then the exact same people deify the far more despicable character of Brian Clough who was unabashedly homophobic and xenophobic (and in destroying the career of the only openly gay footballer who was eventually driven to suicide, halted any professional players coming out even today in fear of the reaction of fans/teammates/managers and why fans (through lack of familiarity) still chant those disgusting chants such as those some of our fans chanted at Wes Hoolahan only a few weeks back) and who physically assaulted his own fans unprovoked.

Not only that, but I absolutely despise Brian Clough's (and Bill Shankly's) influence on English football. Every single quote of Clough and Shaknly gets taken as gospel by so many people and they constantly quote them as if the game hasn't moved on in 40 years. The "tactics don't matter" attitude (yes, they may not have done in the English game of the 1970's, but with the detailed analysis and modern computer programmes teams have now, every little detail will be scrutinised to get the edge). The idea that "if a player is not interfering with play he shouldn't be on the pitch." Rubbish! If a player is down injured in the corner completely away from the game then the goal should be disallowed for offside? Really? The quotes about players not being "man" enough, the "oh, look how passionate and working class I am. I bleed red blood, I hate Everton etc. etc."

Then there is the Victorian headmaster ultra-strict approach of Clough and Shankly. All it has done is spawned 100s of managers in the Martin Allen ilk who think winning football matches is about creating an atmosphere of some kind of benign dictatorship of treating players like they are dirt.

That is my own personal hobbyhorse.

Truly one of the best things I've read on this site spot on. Cheers PR.

 

[H T B]

Stringer during commentary after Weale had made a save, "that makes up for the mistake against Forest".

No it doesn't you feckin knobjockey!