Melton Fox
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Never heard of him either. Can't be worth £10m though, surely?
Martin's strategy
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SilverFox
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He won't speculate £10m to accumulate about £60m
He is an idiot then.
Will £10 million guarantee promotion then?
If not, what happens if he spends £10 million and we don't go up, so he wants his money back?
Underground Fox
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Up until the end of June most of what we will see will be free transfers on released players having to use their summer to find a new club - everyone else is on holiday. i expect to see us splashing the cash come July once everyone is back but I would be surprise to see it exceed £2m even after the sale of Paddy Mc.
SilverFox
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Any money that is spend does certainly need to be spent wisely...but I think that promotion could be acheived on less than £10m.
At the end of the day it is Milan's risk to take. He said that he was going to take us to the premier league within 3 years, and he said whatever was necessary would be done...clearly finance is necessary and if he is not willing to spend then in my opinion he will miss out on a £60m pay day.
Just because something is a risk it doesn't mean it should not be taken. If we want to be a premiership club we will have to do what is necessary...that means taking risks. That is business I'm afraid.
If he isn't going to invest sufficiently he will need to satisfy himself with being a mediocre championship team because IMO that will be the most he can expect.
Babylon
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He won't speculate £10m to accumulate about £60m
He is an idiot then.
No he won't as there is no guarantee it will get us promoted.
SilverFox
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In a nutshell as I said above investing nothing will also guarantee we don't get promoted.
2-3 million spent wisely is better than 10m spent on players that don't gel. Leicester promotion teams were never based on big signings (more on big sales like Kitson, really).
Our early nineties team had Joachim and Neil Lewis from the youth team, talented clubmen like Walsh and Mills, and astute signings like Steve Thompson, Roberts, Gee and Carey, who on the surface of things were nothing special but allowed us to play play off winning football.
When O'Neill built his side, Muzzy came on a free, Savage and Lennon for a few hundred thousand each. Heskey from the youth team, Claridge for virtually nothing, Julian Watts for virtually nothing, same for Guppy, with a bit more paid for Matt Elliot.No star names, but they all became them.
Our next promotion team should therefore be built on a small amount of homegrown talent (Mattock, Odhiambo, Dodds, Weso, Mckay, Wykes?), Some strong, in the trenches characters (Kisnorbo, Mcauley, N'Gotty) and then some lower league talent spots (all the players we are currently linked with).
Thinking about it, Allen seems to be following the O'Neill and Little route to putting together the next good Leicester side.
Our early nineties team had Joachim and Neil Lewis from the youth team, talented clubmen like Walsh and Mills, and astute signings like Steve Thompson, Roberts, Gee and Carey, who on the surface of things were nothing special but allowed us to play play off winning football.
When O'Neill built his side, Muzzy came on a free, Savage and Lennon for a few hundred thousand each. Heskey from the youth team, Claridge for virtually nothing, Julian Watts for virtually nothing, same for Guppy, with a bit more paid for Matt Elliot.No star names, but they all became them.
Our next promotion team should therefore be built on a small amount of homegrown talent (Mattock, Odhiambo, Dodds, Weso, Mckay, Wykes?), Some strong, in the trenches characters (Kisnorbo, Mcauley, N'Gotty) and then some lower league talent spots (all the players we are currently linked with).
Thinking about it, Allen seems to be following the O'Neill and Little route to putting together the next good Leicester side.
SilverFox
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Melton Fox
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And £10m spent wisely on players that do gel is better than £10m on players that don't.
Silly thing to say
How much did Watford spend before they went up?
You don't have to spend a fortune to get promoted, if you have the right manager. Spending money can help, but spending money by itself doesn't guarantee anything.
it illustrates the point that the teams that spend 10m aren't always the teams that get promoted, Derby tried it a few times, Wolves tried it more. Leicester have NEVER gone down the 10m route except when in the top division.
And i don't see that trend changing this season.
Last season Sunderland and B'ham spent their parachute money and money from player sales on a gamble to get back into the top division, we don't have that luxury, but do have a heritage of pairing lower league 'stars' with homegrown/nurtured talent that i mentioned in my last post.
So all in all, not a silly thing to say.
And i don't see that trend changing this season.
Last season Sunderland and B'ham spent their parachute money and money from player sales on a gamble to get back into the top division, we don't have that luxury, but do have a heritage of pairing lower league 'stars' with homegrown/nurtured talent that i mentioned in my last post.
So all in all, not a silly thing to say.
SilverFox
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I agree. But we DO need to spend some money. I am certain that freebies will not get us out of this league.
Watford did do wonderfully but how often does that really happen? How often do teams find the right blend of players for free who can achieve promotion.
I don't know how much Watford spent overall but I know it wasn't just freebies...there was a reasonable fee for Jordan Stewart if I remember.
Certainly wasn't £10 million - their net spend on transfer fees was five figures.
They sold Helguson for £1.3 million, then spent virtually the same amount on several players - the most they spent was £500,000 for Marlon King, Jordan Stewart was £125,000.
SilverFox
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I think we can achieve promotion for less than £10m. That isn't a figure I would suggest spending and was the figure that Babs used so I took it as an example to illustrate that spending £10m would be worthwhile if the net result was £60m...
I think we could probably come close to assembling a promotion chasing side for about £4m. Quality players generally command a fee. All I am trying to say is that to get promotion we are going to have to speculate a little.
If we don't want to spend any money ever because it might go wrong we have no business being a professional football club.
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But if we gamble recklessly using money we don't have, we may not have a future as a professional football club.
SilverFox
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I agree...so we should spend it wisely on quality rather than throwing wages away on unproven players as we have been doing for the past 7-8 years.
Am I being really stupid?
Babylon
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Yes :icon_wink
SilverFox
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:icon_lol:
But I hope you can see where I am coming from. I would rather have 4 quality signings we spend some money on rather than 10 shots in the dark.
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