Online petition calling for MM to step down

[Chuck T Masala]

He'll get no special treatment...so as a new poster he can expect the usual abuse. May his God help him if his spelling aint not good.

I've got a tenner that says the evil devil spawn uses txtspk.

or even Serbian txtspkovich!

 

[Jeff]

The players he bought may not have produced week in week out, but without their sparing ability we would have been long gone. Teams need to adapt quickly and managers play a crucial role. Just look at Norwich, they were as good as down at xmas, but a decent appointment put them right. Who knows, if we had signed a half decent manager we would have stayed up - God knows we had the ability!

So are you now saying it's MM's fault we went down because he didn't sack IH soon enough?


As you have pointed out, the players we had were good enough to stay up. I believe that would have been the case whether we MM came in or not - most of MM's signings were no better than the players we already had (based on results, they were worse).

Maybe we would have gone down if MM didn't take over. But we DEFINITELY did go down with MM in charge, and MM has to take most of the blame for that because he's the one who makes the important decisions.

 

[lazzy]

I apportion the majority of the blame at the feet of the players, especially the newer ones. Morale was obviously rock bottom, the new players arrived and got caught up. These recently "promoted characters" (those who had played with Derby and B'ham etc etc) didn't have enough character to pull round the squad and, instead of instilling confidence and belief in those they joined, they simply dwelled in the sh!t that was already there.

I think that the fact we had so many managers, all of whom did feck all shows the complete lack of character in the dressing room. How many times have we heard of players taking the initiative when their manager is cr@p??? Who stood up for our team - no-one.

MM can only do so much, he backed the managers and gave them fund to get the players they wanted - quality players (apparently). At the end of the day, LCFC doesn't have the pulling power to bring in top coaches - who would want to come?! We are therefore forced to approach medicore managers who will hopefully motivate those players who are able to take some responsibility on the pitch. Stand up and be counted - when was the last time you saw any of our players take responsibility for poor performances and actually mean it?

Even if you don't like it, MM is LCFC now. If he leaves the team will be forced into admin again and we may lose them forever. So buckle in beause it's going to be a difficult ride. MM is here to stay for the next few years so get used to it.

 

[Macky]

MM can only do so much, he backed the managers and gave them fund to get the players they wanted

Which is the reason why, ultimately, the blame lies with him.

Even if you don't like it, MM is LCFC now. If he leaves the team will be forced into admin again and we may lose them forever.

Is this opinion or fact?

 

[Dour]

If he leaves the team will be forced into admin again and we may lose them forever. So buckle in beause it's going to be a difficult ride. MM is here to stay for the next few years so get used to it.

MM would be very stupid to put the club in admin for all he would do is lose his money. He may have threatened it but it would seem a fairly hollow threat.

 

[FIF]

City fans can be so disappointing.

 

[Chrysalis]

I'm getting the sense that the mass of public opinion is finally swaying away from MM. More and more people appear to be hearing about his constant interference and control of the playing side of the club. He is stopping us from progressing. He has been an absolute disaster of a chairman.

The only place I hear these rumours is on this forum. If he goes the first thing that will happen is we will go into admin. 10 points deducted this season and half the first team sold (not necessarily a bad thing tho).

 

[Chrysalis]

What makes you think that?

We got enough points under Rob Kelly to stay up, there's no reason why we couldn't have done the same thing again, with the same team.

It wouldnt have been the same team tho as we would have had to raise approx 7 million from player sales.

Would have been worse team under kelly. So hard to say if we would have gone down or not, but kelly didn't manage many more points than this season so with a weaker team I reckon we would have gone down.

 

[The Major]

It wouldnt have been the same team tho as we would have had to raise approx 7 million from player sales.

Would have been worse team under kelly. So hard to say if we would have gone down or not, but kelly didn't manage many more points than this season so with a weaker team I reckon we would have gone down.

Have you got any proof of that?

 

[Chrysalis]

Yes the season we sold connolly and still had parachute money the club announced a profit, I then did some calculation what our profit/loss would have been had we not sold connolly and had we not had parachute money it came to 6-7 million. I then put the question to the FT and at first was ignored but then they came out with similiar figures later.

 

[lazzy]

Macky - As much as MM may love football, how much does he actually know?? Yes he has a team around him, but someone has to make a decision as to what manager to appoint. If a manager does not work out, does blame always lie with the Chairman? Of course not, it is not a one man team. Yes, he is accountable for the club, but MM had no direct impact on the way in which the Managers managed or the players played. Managers can talk all the bullsh!t they want in the interviews, but their ability is not proven until they are thorwn into the job.

I'm a firm believer in taking responsibility, and the fact remains that Holloway has managed to get away without a word, and we still hear nothing from the players. I wish someone was big enough to stand up and say what went wrong, instead of leaving us to throw around ideas. Afterall, we know **** all.

Would the team go into administration if MM left, depends on who bought the club. However, this club made a massive loss last season and, the fact that we are still in existence, shows that MM is funding the club. If we were unable to secure another well-off owner we would go into administration - you cant deny that. I would rather that we stayed put and managed as we are, instead of selling the players, going into admin and falling down the league further.

Nothing is guaranteed. MM could pass away tomorrow and we would be left like Gretna!

 

[Jeff]

The only place I hear these rumours is on this forum.

I heard a former player say it on national radio last week.

 

[Chrysalis]

you remember which player?

I suppose had MM never came it is unfair to assume annual losses would be consistently around 6-7 million as the wage bill was been reduced but there would still have been multi million losses.

lazzy yeah last season we had a 4.5mill payment of MM so if the losses were massive including that then without MM we are in trouble, of course tho MM has increased the wage bill since he came here.

 

[Jeff]

you remember which player?

I can't remember who said it. It was the Radio 5 Monday night programme last week, they were discussing the Premiership and someone brought up the subject of chairmen/owners interfering with the managerial side of the club, and Mandaric's name was mentioned as someone who does it.

 

[Macky]

City fans can be so disappointing.

Yes, but not quite as disappointing as City players

 

[Macky]

Macky - As much as MM may love football, how much does he actually know?? Yes he has a team around him, but someone has to make a decision as to what manager to appoint. If a manager does not work out, does blame always lie with the Chairman? Of course not, it is not a one man team. Yes, he is accountable for the club, but MM had no direct impact on the way in which the Managers managed or the players played. Managers can talk all the bullsh!t they want in the interviews, but their ability is not proven until they are thorwn into the job.

I'm a firm believer in taking responsibility, and the fact remains that Holloway has managed to get away without a word, and we still hear nothing from the players. I wish someone was big enough to stand up and say what went wrong, instead of leaving us to throw around ideas. Afterall, we know **** all.

That's all great lazzy but, the fact is, in the big, bad world that we live in the buck has to stop somewhere. Holloway was Mandy's appointment and, if the speculation is to be believed, he is guilty of interfering with Holloway's management of the team. Therefore, he is culpable for our huge failure last season.

 

[psychotic.fox]

wheres your petition ...........id like to stick my name on it and then ram it somewhere brown and smelly................wanting MM out isnt going to happen without some serious concequences..

can the club, with considerably less income than in the last few years , afford to stay in business.
can a financial strategy be calculated that would give the new manager a player purchacing budget that hopefully will get US out of the sh1t were in
who would actally run the thing better than the guy who has so far LOST A SHED LOAD OF HIS OWN MONEY.
a 10 point deduction of points before we kick off the new season.( big help that)
to be honest , if i was MM and i heard about your petition and some of the other ungreatfull dicks on here , id probably want to tell you to stick your club and go and find somewhere where the fans appreciate the money and effort thats been put in to try and steer your precious club back to some kind of respectability.

every one makes mistakes. if MM has actually made too many

last year he sacked a pretty poor manager (rk)who was clearly out of his depth.and you all applauded him , he got wortho in on a temporary contract to keep us up, he did that.

MA came highly recommended as a young up and coming manager with a short but pretty impressive cv, after alot of deliberating, mm signed him on....not too many complaints there then, in fact, i recall the whole stadium giving MA a resounding seal of approval and support prior to kick-off when we beat watford 4-1.....maybe a very weakened side against the trees was the last straw for MA and he was sacked before his controversial training and man-management directives screwed the players up even more.

then Milan gets megson, and straight away, we were beginning to look more proffesional. hard to score against, hard to beat, we even put away the trees after we gave them a goal head-start. lets not also the away win at villa. But the fans didnt like his style and thought that his long-ball defensive approach to playing football was somehow not good enough for the likes of leicester. so at the next available opportunity, he up and fekked off to bolton, to replies of ''good riddence'' by a large number of our deluded fans.

you didnt want colin wanker, not that he would have come here, so the shortlist of willing managers was wittled down to IO.
ollie didnt turn out to be quite the bloke we needed and was under a huge amount of preesure from day 1. his record could have better, he made some bazaar decisions, he tried till he was blue in the teeth to encourage and not slag-off his squad when everyone else was jeering , booing and being down-right rude and in some cases offencive.

At the walkers stadium the supporters rarely seemed to be bothered to really get behind the team, as though you all expected the team to turn on some kind of premier league winning display of unrelenting attacking football where every ball was swiftly played to feet ready to fired home in some roy-of-the-rovers move.......

so now you want the man ,who in my humble opinion, has tried to give us what we want, the elbow......SHAME ON YOU....

 

[psychotic.fox]

blimey...............im off for a few beers after writing that lot.




bugger

 

[FantasyFox]

psychotic fox, confuscious say 'man who goes to bed after typing too much wakes up with infected blisters'. Get down pub before you have a hernia.

Even if MM is interfering it's the managers job to tell him with all due respect to butt out. If the manager doesn't do that then he as responsible for the results as if he'd made the decisions himself. If we get through say five managers in a season then it's fair to say that MM is the problem.....DOH!

 

[psychotic.fox]

psychotic fox, confuscious say 'man who goes to bed after typing too much wakes up with infected blisters'. Get down pub before you have a hernia.

Even if MM is interfering it's the managers job to tell him with all due respect to butt out. If the manager doesn't do that then he as responsible for the results as if he'd made the decisions himself. If we get through say five managers in a season then it's fair to say that MM is the problem.....DOH!

oh king of mongies.............so you're basing your argument on what someone might or might not have mentioned in a discussion on bbc radio 5 live... doh