Petition to save Wrexham AFC's ground, the Racecourse

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owl8

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Hello Leicester fans. Sorry for the intrusion, and if this has been posted here before (sorry, I don't have time to check)

Could you please spare a few minutes to read the following and if you agree, could you please sign the petition? Many thanks in advance for your support.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?WREXHAM&1

Wrexham fans hope to get 10,000 signatures before a meeting tomorrow (16 June) - 6150 signatures have been obtained so far and obviously 10,000 signatures would seem an impossible target. However, there's always hope :) Every signature is vital.

If you know anyone who's from Wrexham and who might not be aware of this petition, please let him or her know about it. Many thanks.

Here's a write-up on the financial crisis facing Wrexham (which is 130 years old):

BRAZILIANT
Posts: 461
(28/5/04 1:01 pm)
Reply Re: Where have you advertised the petition
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THE STORY............COPY IT FOR ANY WEBSITE

Two years ago the then chairman of Wrexham Football Club, Mr Pryce Griffiths, who was a real Wrexham supporter and had the best interests of the club at heart, was struggling to cope with the increased stress of running the club due to ill health and decided to sell his 78% of shares in the club to a Mr Mark Guterman, a property developer, believing after several meetings that he would continue to look after the club and take it forward.

After Mark Guterman took over, the club won promotion back to Division Two and everything seemed fine, but no money was ever provided for transfer fees by the new chairman/owner and then starting in November last year the players wages started to be paid late and carried on being paid late until his sudden resignation last week. On several occasions the phones had been cut off and also the players had no hot water at the training complex at Colliers Park.

A Mr John Reames had appeared on the scene over the last couple of months, claiming he was here as a favour to Mark Gutterman and was not receiving a penny for his help, and on Monday night at a board meeting called due to Mark Gutermans departure he was made Managing Director. He was previously involved at Lincoln City where he was chairman and their fans cannot believe he has been allowed to obtain a position of power at another football club.

Amazingly, Mr Reames has admitted that Mark Gutterman was never owner of Wrexham Football Club and the owner is in fact a Mr Alex Hamilton, another property developer who is a close friend and business associate of Mark Guterman, and Mr Alex Hamilton has admitted himself "that he has no interest in football". Mr Alex Hamilton also bought the freehold of the ground from Wolverhampton and Dudley Breweries over a year ago for £300,000 and this was never reported in the local press along with several other very important issues regarding the club. The club had a 125 year lease agreed for a peppercorn rent, this is now worthless as Mr Hamilton owns both the club and the freehold and can do what he likes with them.

According to Mr Reames, Mr Hamilton wishes to demolish the Kop and Yale stands during the season after next and rotate the pitch ninety degrees during the summer break to "free up" more space for redevelopment, once this is done Mr Hamilton will walk away from the club with a handsome profit leaving the club debt free. This will lead to the loss of the club car park and a reduction in capacity of the ground by 1500.

Obviously this is very worrying for any Wrexham fan as the current ground is a very good stadium and is better left as it is, and can it really be believed that all the work can be done while the team still plays at the stadium? Why do we need to build a smaller stadium on the same site allowing a property developer to walk off with millions in profit and pay off debts that have been created while he has been the owner, it just doesn't make any sense apart from someone asset stripping the land for their own benefit.

The obvious main worry is that once the work begins an excuse will be made that we will have to groundshare because of the work taking too long etc and we will never return as the land will be sold once we are off site, and for anyone who doubts this is a possibility, just ask any Brighton fan who are now fully supporting our cause as can be seen from the petition, along with fans of all other football clubs including not surprisingly Lincoln City.

Unquote

Thanks for taking the time to read this, and again sorry if this has been posted on one of the other forums.
 

Fox Fan

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I do belive Wrexham hold the record forthe quickest hat-trick being scored against them by one player?

Can anyone confrm this?
 

Anonymous

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wrecsam

We at Chester did warn you about Gutterman when he joined you. He got Chester in trouble when he was here. When we warned you on a forum all you said was he had learned by his mistakes-sorry,but the old saying comes to mind "I told you so"
 

Anonymous

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owl8 said:
Hello Leicester fans. Sorry for the intrusion, and if this has been posted here before (sorry, I don't have time to check)

Could you please spare a few minutes to read the following and if you agree, could you please sign the petition? Many thanks in advance for your support.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?WREXHAM&1

Wrexham fans hope to get 10,000 signatures before a meeting tomorrow (16 June) - 6150 signatures have been obtained so far and obviously 10,000 signatures would seem an impossible target. However, there's always hope :) Every signature is vital.

If you know anyone who's from Wrexham and who might not be aware of this petition, please let him or her know about it. Many thanks.

Here's a write-up on the financial crisis facing Wrexham (which is 130 years old):

BRAZILIANT
Posts: 461
(28/5/04 1:01 pm)
Reply Re: Where have you advertised the petition
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE STORY............COPY IT FOR ANY WEBSITE

Two years ago the then chairman of Wrexham Football Club, Mr Pryce Griffiths, who was a real Wrexham supporter and had the best interests of the club at heart, was struggling to cope with the increased stress of running the club due to ill health and decided to sell his 78% of shares in the club to a Mr Mark Guterman, a property developer, believing after several meetings that he would continue to look after the club and take it forward.

After Mark Guterman took over, the club won promotion back to Division Two and everything seemed fine, but no money was ever provided for transfer fees by the new chairman/owner and then starting in November last year the players wages started to be paid late and carried on being paid late until his sudden resignation last week. On several occasions the phones had been cut off and also the players had no hot water at the training complex at Colliers Park.

A Mr John Reames had appeared on the scene over the last couple of months, claiming he was here as a favour to Mark Gutterman and was not receiving a penny for his help, and on Monday night at a board meeting called due to Mark Gutermans departure he was made Managing Director. He was previously involved at Lincoln City where he was chairman and their fans cannot believe he has been allowed to obtain a position of power at another football club.

Amazingly, Mr Reames has admitted that Mark Gutterman was never owner of Wrexham Football Club and the owner is in fact a Mr Alex Hamilton, another property developer who is a close friend and business associate of Mark Guterman, and Mr Alex Hamilton has admitted himself "that he has no interest in football". Mr Alex Hamilton also bought the freehold of the ground from Wolverhampton and Dudley Breweries over a year ago for £300,000 and this was never reported in the local press along with several other very important issues regarding the club. The club had a 125 year lease agreed for a peppercorn rent, this is now worthless as Mr Hamilton owns both the club and the freehold and can do what he likes with them.

According to Mr Reames, Mr Hamilton wishes to demolish the Kop and Yale stands during the season after next and rotate the pitch ninety degrees during the summer break to "free up" more space for redevelopment, once this is done Mr Hamilton will walk away from the club with a handsome profit leaving the club debt free. This will lead to the loss of the club car park and a reduction in capacity of the ground by 1500.

Obviously this is very worrying for any Wrexham fan as the current ground is a very good stadium and is better left as it is, and can it really be believed that all the work can be done while the team still plays at the stadium? Why do we need to build a smaller stadium on the same site allowing a property developer to walk off with millions in profit and pay off debts that have been created while he has been the owner, it just doesn't make any sense apart from someone asset stripping the land for their own benefit.

The obvious main worry is that once the work begins an excuse will be made that we will have to groundshare because of the work taking too long etc and we will never return as the land will be sold once we are off site, and for anyone who doubts this is a possibility, just ask any Brighton fan who are now fully supporting our cause as can be seen from the petition, along with fans of all other football clubs including not surprisingly Lincoln City.

Unquote

Thanks for taking the time to read this, and again sorry if this has been posted on one of the other forums.

i would help but the link dont work anymore
 

gagandeep

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Anonymous said:
owl8 said:
Hello Leicester fans. Sorry for the intrusion, and if this has been posted here before (sorry, I don't have time to check)

Could you please spare a few minutes to read the following and if you agree, could you please sign the petition? Many thanks in advance for your support.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?WREXHAM&1

Wrexham fans hope to get 10,000 signatures before a meeting tomorrow (16 June) - 6150 signatures have been obtained so far and obviously 10,000 signatures would seem an impossible target. However, there's always hope :) Every signature is vital.

If you know anyone who's from Wrexham and who might not be aware of this petition, please let him or her know about it. Many thanks.

Here's a write-up on the financial crisis facing Wrexham (which is 130 years old):

BRAZILIANT
Posts: 461
(28/5/04 1:01 pm)
Reply Re: Where have you advertised the petition
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE STORY............COPY IT FOR ANY WEBSITE

Two years ago the then chairman of Wrexham Football Club, Mr Pryce Griffiths, who was a real Wrexham supporter and had the best interests of the club at heart, was struggling to cope with the increased stress of running the club due to ill health and decided to sell his 78% of shares in the club to a Mr Mark Guterman, a property developer, believing after several meetings that he would continue to look after the club and take it forward.

After Mark Guterman took over, the club won promotion back to Division Two and everything seemed fine, but no money was ever provided for transfer fees by the new chairman/owner and then starting in November last year the players wages started to be paid late and carried on being paid late until his sudden resignation last week. On several occasions the phones had been cut off and also the players had no hot water at the training complex at Colliers Park.

A Mr John Reames had appeared on the scene over the last couple of months, claiming he was here as a favour to Mark Gutterman and was not receiving a penny for his help, and on Monday night at a board meeting called due to Mark Gutermans departure he was made Managing Director. He was previously involved at Lincoln City where he was chairman and their fans cannot believe he has been allowed to obtain a position of power at another football club.

Amazingly, Mr Reames has admitted that Mark Gutterman was never owner of Wrexham Football Club and the owner is in fact a Mr Alex Hamilton, another property developer who is a close friend and business associate of Mark Guterman, and Mr Alex Hamilton has admitted himself "that he has no interest in football". Mr Alex Hamilton also bought the freehold of the ground from Wolverhampton and Dudley Breweries over a year ago for £300,000 and this was never reported in the local press along with several other very important issues regarding the club. The club had a 125 year lease agreed for a peppercorn rent, this is now worthless as Mr Hamilton owns both the club and the freehold and can do what he likes with them.

According to Mr Reames, Mr Hamilton wishes to demolish the Kop and Yale stands during the season after next and rotate the pitch ninety degrees during the summer break to "free up" more space for redevelopment, once this is done Mr Hamilton will walk away from the club with a handsome profit leaving the club debt free. This will lead to the loss of the club car park and a reduction in capacity of the ground by 1500.

Obviously this is very worrying for any Wrexham fan as the current ground is a very good stadium and is better left as it is, and can it really be believed that all the work can be done while the team still plays at the stadium? Why do we need to build a smaller stadium on the same site allowing a property developer to walk off with millions in profit and pay off debts that have been created while he has been the owner, it just doesn't make any sense apart from someone asset stripping the land for their own benefit.

The obvious main worry is that once the work begins an excuse will be made that we will have to groundshare because of the work taking too long etc and we will never return as the land will be sold once we are off site, and for anyone who doubts this is a possibility, just ask any Brighton fan who are now fully supporting our cause as can be seen from the petition, along with fans of all other football clubs including not surprisingly Lincoln City.

Unquote

Thanks for taking the time to read this, and again sorry if this has been posted on one of the other forums.

i would help but the link dont work anymore

that was me
 
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