Player Ratings vs Inter Milan

[Lboro fox]

Maybe with you liberal slags but I'd like to see a real rating system.

Theres always one!!!

 

[fcukcov]

Great work sheffield but I have a real problem with players earning a 5 for just turning up for 10 grand a week.
Why should they earn only 4 points less than someone playing a blinder?

well why not give them a one out of ten then they get upto 9 less points.

 

[MKFox]

because my rating wouldn't be taken seriously then.
I'm not dissing you sheff, just making a point..


10 - Couldn't have played any better. A perfect outstanding performance.

9 - An excellent performance, a near perfect game.

8 - A very good performance, played above himself.

7 - A good performance, contributed well to the team.

6 - An average performance. Didn't do badly but could have done better.

5 - Not a good performance but did not disgrace himself.

4 - Played considerably below the level that he can. A poor performance.

3 - A very poor performance, needs to improve considerably.

2 - A disgraceful performance, had an absolute nightmare.
1 - Did not do a thing right for the time he was on. Woeful is being kind.

5. If it's not a good performance by a pro then surely he did disgrace himself...

If anyone voted more than 3 for MDV against Inter then the whole thing doesn't stack up. So when the average voter puts MDV on a par with (and in many case above) Tiatto, I wonder what is the point as the voters clearly do not understand football.
Final moan, why the feck did the players get clapped off?

 

[fcukcov]

Is the point of this type of rating and for that matter any rating that it is the opinion of the person rating the players. Ratings in the papers are often wrong in my opinion, espcially with the Suns "star man rating".

What you are sayng is your opinion on how players played and that is fair enough. Overall I believe that Sheff would understand that this is never going to be a scientific process, certainly for the pre season games. Different fans see different aspects of the game. It will aways be opinion based. There is no other way. When and if sheff publishes the overall scores then hopefully the picture will be a little clearer and the averages will work out closer to what actually happened on the night. There has been several different opinions on this forum alone on how tiatto played on that night.

 

[highland fox]

because my rating wouldn't be taken seriously then.
I'm not dissing you sheff, just making a point..


10 - Couldn't have played any better. A perfect outstanding performance.

9 - An excellent performance, a near perfect game.

8 - A very good performance, played above himself.

7 - A good performance, contributed well to the team.

6 - An average performance. Didn't do badly but could have done better.

5 - Not a good performance but did not disgrace himself.

4 - Played considerably below the level that he can. A poor performance.

3 - A very poor performance, needs to improve considerably.

2 - A disgraceful performance, had an absolute nightmare.
1 - Did not do a thing right for the time he was on. Woeful is being kind.

5. If it's not a good performance by a pro then surely he did disgrace himself...

If anyone voted more than 3 for MDV against Inter then the whole thing doesn't stack up. So when the average voter puts MDV on a par with (and in many case above) Tiatto, I wonder what is the point as the voters clearly do not understand football.
Final moan, why the feck did the players get clapped off?

It's just opinions MK,everyone sees different things,rates players differently from others.Some on here thought Tiatto was shite and MDV was OK doesn't mean you are right and they are wrong.I'd imagine some people clapped them off because they enjoyed it,you obviously didn't.I know you like to see commitment and effort but if you expect players to go out 110% in a pre-season friendly then I think you are going to be dissapointed.

 

[fcukcov]

It's just opinions MK,everyone sees different things,rates players differently from others.Some on here thought Tiatto was shite and MDV was OK doesn't mean you are right and they are wrong.

yeh my sentiments summed up. Thanks Highland.

 

[Steven]

Is the point of this type of rating and for that matter any rating that it is the opinion of the person rating the players. Ratings in the papers are often wrong in my opinion, espcially with the Suns "star man rating".

What you are sayng is your opinion on how players played and that is fair enough. Overall I believe that Sheff would understand that this is never going to be a scientific process, certainly for the pre season games. Different fans see different aspects of the game. It will aways be opinion based. There is no other way. When and if sheff publishes the overall scores then hopefully the picture will be a little clearer and the averages will work out closer to what actually happened on the night. There has been several different opinions on this forum alone on how tiatto played on that night.

Exactly.

 

[MKFox]

but if you expect players to go out 110% in a pre-season friendly then I think you are going to be dissapointed.

Ok, I'll take it on the chin and agree that others have their own opinions... Those opinions, however, suck...:icon_lol:
I do expect 100%+ from anyone wearing the sacred blue.
Pre-season or Champions league final. shouldn't matter. Playing for a place or a medal.
Where's the passion gone??:icon_sad:

 

[fcukcov]

Ok, I'll take it on the chin and agree that others have thier own opinions... Those opinions, however, suck...:icon_lol:
I do expect 100%+ from anyone wearing the sacred blue.
Pre-season or Champions league final. shouldn't matter. Playing for a place or a medal.
Where's the passion gone??:icon_sad:

Good on ya .

I reckon we are showing more passion for the blue shirt than we were last season. It was my major moan for last season that the passion and pride for the blue shirt wasnt there. I think something that comes from Micky Adams policy of buying older players that Micky Adams told Micky Adams would do a job for us but that Micky Adams quickly realised wasnt going to happen.

 

[highland fox]

Ok, I'll take it on the chin and agree that others have thier own opinions... Those opinions, however, suck...:icon_lol:
I do expect 100%+ from anyone wearing the sacred blue.
Pre-season or Champions league final. shouldn't matter. Playing for a place or a medal.
Where's the passion gone??:icon_sad:

Put a sock in it..you Big Tart.

 

[fcukcov]

Put a sock in it..you Big Tart.

I think thats another way of putting it.:icon_lol:

 

[highland fox]

Where's the passion gone??:icon_sad:

Now is not the time for us to discuss your relationship with Mrs MK.....she's probably just met someone with a bigger dick.

 

[MKFox]

she's probably just met someone with a bigger dick.

That Bungle off Rainbow has been sniffing around...

 

[CM]

Went to the game in hope of seeing some stars. Adriano you wimp. It only cost a fiver though.

Henderson 7
Canero 6
Sheehan 7
Johansson 8
Gerrbrand 8
Sylla 7
Wilcox 6
Tiatto 5
Williams 5
Dublin 6
De Vries 4
Half time Yorkie and Tea 8
Pre match beer 4

De Vries looked awful. Complete donkey from where I was sitting (which was painfully low down)

The defence looked ok for the most part but Inter were set through a few times and if that bald striker was any good he could have scored a hattrick. Albeit with a very poor linesman to help him.

 

[Durham Fox]

because my rating wouldn't be taken seriously then.
I'm not dissing you sheff, just making a point..


10 - Couldn't have played any better. A perfect outstanding performance.

9 - An excellent performance, a near perfect game.

8 - A very good performance, played above himself.

7 - A good performance, contributed well to the team.

6 - An average performance. Didn't do badly but could have done better.

5 - Not a good performance but did not disgrace himself.

4 - Played considerably below the level that he can. A poor performance.

3 - A very poor performance, needs to improve considerably.

2 - A disgraceful performance, had an absolute nightmare.
1 - Did not do a thing right for the time he was on. Woeful is being kind.

5. If it's not a good performance by a pro then surely he did disgrace himself...

If anyone voted more than 3 for MDV against Inter then the whole thing doesn't stack up. So when the average voter puts MDV on a par with (and in many case above) Tiatto, I wonder what is the point as the voters clearly do not understand football.
Final moan, why the feck did the players get clapped off?

MK, you aren't being fair. as you are not a regular at the walkers you look at it differently. These performances are head and shoulders above most that we saw last season, hence the clapping. MDV was considerably better than last season too. For the record I thought Tiatto was OK but he loses posession too easily.

 

[Dunc]

I thought Tiatto played well hence I gave him a 7 I think and I thought De Vries was ok, so I gave him a 6. Dublin was worse but not terrible and so I gave him a 5.

MDV didn't do have "A very poor performance, needs to improve considerably" in my opinion. He won his fair share of flicks, held the ball up well, linked play and created a couple of efforts through his skill and strength. Granted he didn't take them but in my opinion that falls into "An average performance. Didn't do badly but could have done better".

 

[Durham Fox]

I thought Tiatto played well hence I gave him a 7 I think and I thought De Vries was ok, so I gave him a 6. Dublin was worse but not terrible and so I gave him a 5.

MDV didn't do have "A very poor performance, needs to improve considerably" in my opinion. He won his fair share of flicks, held the ball up well, linked play and created a couple of efforts through his skill and strength. Granted he didn't take them but in my opinion that falls into "An average performance. Didn't do badly but could have done better".

Yep, sums up MDV's performance for me.

 

[Mike - True Blue Tinter]

A ratings system by definition is subjective, unless you compare every position with some 'gold standard', e.g. De Vries against Henry etc.

Also people have different expectations of players - personally I am quite happy to see Tiatto in the 'Robbie Savage' role - chasing everything, snapping at ankles and disrupting their midfield. I know he sometimes puts a pass astray but if he does all the rest and keeps the team fired up he will always get a good vote from me - unless he does a stupid 'Dabizas' challenge and gets a yellow or red card!

If we do not allow for individual expectation we might as well not bother and just look at the OPTA stats - tackles, assists, no of passes, yards covered etc.

 

[sheffield_fox]

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate any comments to do with any aspect of the site and as you have mentioned the guidelines, I feel I ought to say thats simply what they are, guidelines. Its meant to keep people from straying to the ridiculous like giving a 1 to a player who didn't play anywhere near his best, but 1 is the lowest you can get so surely that states he can't have possibly played any worse where 99% of the time they could have.

People will always have their own views of how they want to rate but take a scenario where not that many people vote, say one player is averaging around 4 or 5 but then one person comes in and gives him a 1. This takes the player's average way down and then surely it is not a reflection of the fans views as a whole, it is one voter having more influence on the ratings than the rest?

Anyway, voting closes at 6pm tonight so could anyone who has not yet voted on my site who wants to vote please do so before then. A few of the awards are extremely close at the moment so your vote will make a difference.