Poor attendances

[GazLCFC]

I do not understand the business model in the Prem of clubs who do not fill grounds not reducing season ticket prices.

Clubs like Blackburn and Wigan that barely get 20000 on a gate, perhaps £15million in a season.

That is dwarfed by their Sky payments of £30-40million. If they dropped their ST prices say by £100 they would need perhaps an extra 4000 fans to make up the shortfall, but there would also be an extra 4000 fans in their store and on the concourses buying food and drink.

Can anyone who understands how football business works explain why Prem Clubs with low gates do not reduce ticket prices to get a bigger spend with a larger footfall to the ground?

A lot of clubs contact out their catering therefore do not make more money for selling more food.

 

[Jeff]

A lot of clubs contact out their catering therefore do not make more money for selling more food.

A lot use external caterers, but keep the profits from the catering.

Some might sell the rights for the catering to a company, but that would be worth more if the crowds are higher.

 

[Mike - True Blue Tinter]

That reminds me ... now that Top and Susan Whelan have given us the best screens and pitch in the entire league and one of the best training grounds anywhere, and a better manager, when are they are going to sort out the best catering in the league for us. I mean you cannot even get chips on the concourse FFS!

 

[Jeff]

That reminds me ... now that Top and Susan Whelan have given us the best screens and pitch in the entire league and one of the best training grounds anywhere, and a better manager, when are they are going to sort out the best catering in the league for us. I mean you cannot even get chips on the concourse FFS!

The chip cob I had at Alfreton Town last week was the best food I've had at any football match.
They had a lot more choice than most grounds at our level, and it was much cheaper. It was like a having a proper chip shop inside the ground.

 

[glyn]

The same source that glyn used above shows that Derby's average attendance this season is just 26,023. If it's true that they have sold 24k season tickets, they are doing incredibly poorly on single match tickets.

That only shows up to last season I believe.

This source shows they are under 26k this season

And we are 4th biggest.

 

[spionfox]

I think people forget we are a rugby city as much as a football one.

Yes the attendance is lower than we would like but 22,000 on a Sunday in late November after the Tigers had played at home the previous evening isn't that bad.

 

[Jeff]

I think people forget we are a rugby city as much as a football one.

No we're not. We're much more of a football city than a rugby one.

The Tigers are averaging 18,000 this season, and they attract fans from a much wider area than the football team.

 

[spionfox]

No we're not. We're much more of a football city than a rugby one.

I wasn't arguing which had most support. I was simply stating that we are a rugby city as much as a football one.

I could have also mentioned cricket but that is pretty much a minority sport really.

 

[Jeff]

I was simply stating that we are a rugby city as much as a football one.

But that's just not true.

There are a lot more football supporters in the city than rugby supporters. Therefore we're not a rugby city as much as a football one.
The fact that we have a successful rugby team might mean the football team loses out on some fans, but that doesn't make the two sports equal.

 

[Matt_B]

But that's just not true.

There are a lot more football supporters in the city than rugby supporters. Therefore we're not a rugby city as much as a football one.

Would you accept that we are a Rugby city as well as a football city?

 

[Jeff]

Would you accept that we are a Rugby city as well as a football city?

Yes.

 

[spionfox]

Would you accept that we are a Rugby city as well as a football city?

Yes.

Thank you Matt. The argumentative sod knew what I ****ing meant even if I didn't convey my meaning correctly :icon_wink

 

[Matt_B]

Thank you Matt. The argumentative sod knew what I ****ing meant even if I didn't convey my meaning correctly :icon_wink

He's a nightmare, I know.

 

[Jeff]

Thank you Matt. The argumentative sod knew what I ****ing meant

I assumed you meant what you wrote. I didn't realise I was supposed to interpret it differently.

 

[samfox]

I assumed you meant what you wrote. I didn't realise I was supposed to interpret it differently.

I think you are splitting hairs Jeff........Oh ...but then looking at your avatar, you may missinterpret that as well.:icon_wink

 

[EMC Fox]

Derby sell match tickets through Groupon.. and give season tickets away with mobile phone contracts..

 

[Billyjof]

Would you accept that we are a Rugby city as well as a football city?

Rugby as yet doesn't have a city status though?

 

[Chuck T Masala]

Everything is far more expensive now, the cost of living is rising ata frightening rate, gas, electric food are all going up and don't talk to me about petrol! This is bound to have some effect all over the country. Those that pay on usually on matchday may well decide that the £30+ would be better of getting them to work all week.

 

[Darth Vodka]

Those that pay on usually on matchday may well decide that the £30+ would be better of getting them to work all week.

me included, this is the first season I haven't gone a game since I started watching in about 1990

just a lot of money to watch Sven politely explain how we didn't win

however, bit happier now NP is back and if we string a few wins, I think me and mrs DV will pop along

oh and in the Championship, we have lots of games on the telly

 

[Izzet 6]

Attendances are pretty similar to the majority of home games at this level over the past few years.